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Opioids New to bangin painkillers

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opi8luver

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I'm sorta new to bangin pain killers and I had a few questions that I was hoping some people on here could answer......

1.) Which are the best and safest ones to bang, like can I bang oxymorphone (opana) ir and er? And how?

2.) Which should I use heat when making them up and how long? Because i have read a lot of threads on here and i get a lot of mixed info about using heat.

3.) Why is there so much shit left over on my spoon? Is that filler or bonder? Because shouldn't it all dissolve in my spoon when i make it up?

4.) What are the best things to use as a filter? I have tried using cigarette filters, cotton from cotton swaps and cue tips and it is hard to draw it through, i have had some of the tips of my rigs actually get CLOGGED with the left over powder or bonder and what i did manage to pull through gets stuck in the syringe tube!!! And its just overall difficult to pull the liquid through the cotton, is there anything i can do to make it easier??

5.) Is it possible to make it up to be drawn up into my rig without anything being left over so that i can make sure i get all of my yummy goodness up into my shot so i don't have to go back and like rewash whats left in the spoon and on the filter to get it all up even tho i still dont manage to get it all dissolved?? Because i have tried trial and error to see if heating it longer or less makes a difference or more or less water does, and i don't wanna keep runnin around in the dark and potentially making a big mistake that could be harmful or deadly to myself!

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6.) Say im making up 4mg Diluadids and im making up about 4, about how much water should I use? Or more or less how many units out of a 1cc syringe should i use per pill?? Or in general how much water should i use for any pill?

Any help and answers on these would be greatly appreciated and very helpful. Thank you!
 
You can bang opana IR but not ER. hydromorphone and opana ir give the strongest rushes but don't last that long. Opana lasts longer than hydromorphone tho imo. You aren't supposed to use heat but I use just a little to get it all the same consistency but not so much that the binders start to dissolve(wihtout heat sometimes the binders just all float on top in a sticky mess so I heat it a little to get it all floating in the water and not clumped up. You should use as much water as possible even for 1 pill. Usually a full syringe worth since youll lose a tiny bit of water. If you have too many pills you may need to do seperate shots or get a bigger needle or do them all at once then do a couple rinses on all the leftover shit. If you don't use heat I would say stirring it and letting it sit in the water for a few minutes stirring occasionaly will help get the most drug into the shot. For a filter use a tightly rolled cotton or a micron filter if possible, if it is too hard to draw up you need to dilute it more and do seperate shots or use a biger needle if posible

I would say hydromorphones are the best to bang cause they are small and not a lot of filler and go into solution easy. IR morphines, opana IR, and oxys/roxies are all good to bang(not good for you but good as in they get you high. much better if you have a micron filter to filter out some of the binders that dissolve.)
 
The stuff left over in your spoon is all of the binders/fillers from the pills. This stuff you DO NOT want in your syringe, much less your vein. It is not water soluble, so if you managed to get that shit in your veins it would just be particulates floating around your bloodstream/heart and causing severe complications. Most opiates are water soluble, so disolving the pill in water will dissolve the opiate, and leave the binders and shit behind.

DO NOT HEAT PILLS !! All it does it cause more of those binders/fillers to temporarily dissolve into your solution then re-crystallize in your shot, or your blood stream. Oxycodone, hydromorphone, oxymorphone, heroin, morphine are all readily soluble in water without the use of heat. Heat is bad.

If you are shooting pills, MICRON FILTERS ARE IMPERATIVE. Cotton filters do not filter out certain soluble inactive ingredients such as talc and whatnot.

You can get away with cotton filtering, it is better than nothing, but certainly far from sufficient for injecting pills.

I suggest you read the IV mega thread, as well as search the directory for each drug you wnt to inject. Learning the safe and proper method is worth a bit of research and time. Failure to do things properly can lead to abscesses, infections, pulmonary embolisms, particles in your veins/blood, etc.. amputation, death.. Bad news, man. You can get away with it perhaps for a long time before you notice but it is definitely NOT worth it to tempt fate just to shoot some dilaudid.

This will probably get closed but I will leave it open for a little bit. You can private message me if you have any problems/concerns or if you need help finding certain threads.

IV Megathread and FAQ v.2
 
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Thanks guys that put a lot of worries down and raised my awareness! Hell the only knowledge i got about bangin pills came from a current H, IV user thats been doing it for about 2 years or so and i wasn't sure if how he told me to do it was right.

So i can actually make it up without using ANY heat? The drug will separate from the binders on its on?
 
well i have been using like what i have been told are "typical" banging rigs that i get from my local pharmacy, 1cc BD insulin syringes cuz they are cheap and the needle is decently small so i have no issues hitting. Should i change? Even tho i am comfortable with these and got the hang of it by practicing on myself.
 
those types of needles are fine. I know its harm reduction and that people dont want the dont do it advice but I did for many years and i have no veins left for even hospital use. hospitals cant even tap my veins and from using my wrist and not using micron filters it got a huge the size of a golf ball cyst that was drained and was septic one of the most painful if not the most painful experience of my life. so please 1. dont think nothing bad will happen to you 2. get micron filters please please please please and please be as careful as possible and dont ruin your veins when your really in trouble and after 40 or so sticks they cant draw blood you will regret it! and if you just started doing it i would really suggest that if you value your life to change your roa if you still can and your not stuck on the instant gratification that is shooting up

stay safe, stay happy
 
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There is an IV megathread with a TON of useful information. It's really easy to find aswell.

Please be safe and learn technique and sterilization
 
opi8luver said:
Thanks guys that put a lot of worries down and raised my awareness! Hell the only knowledge i got about bangin pills came from a current H, IV user thats been doing it for about 2 years or so and i wasn't sure if how he told me to do it was right.

So i can actually make it up without using ANY heat? The drug will separate from the binders on its on?
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NO heat. Heat is bad bad bad! It just melts down the fillers and binders, which is the stuff you DO NOT want to inject. I have never heated my pills. There is no need to when the main ingredient(opiet) is fully soluable in cold water. But do read the IV mega thread and the micron filtering thread. Theres alot of valuable info in them.
Ive been IV'ing for 6 years now on and off. Ive been going steady for about a year now with only a few breaks here and there for like a week or 2. I only found out about these micron filter about 2 months ago and have yet to get my hands on some. Due to finacial issues such as not having a credit card to buy them online and then I have no idea where I would even find a needle exchange program in my area. I have been using just cotton filters and filter my solution 2-3 times. I understand the importance of micron filters tho and plan to get some asap!
So just be careful and read the mega threads. Theres so much info in them that can save your life or a limb. lol really tho. Ive learned so much about harm reduction from the mega threads.
sorry im rambling now. Thats what happens when im feeling nice. Good luck to you. '
Stay safe!:)
 
Thanks. I have seen quite a few people talking about filtering the substance 2-3 times if you cant get micron filters, but when they say that what do they mean by that? Use different filters to filter it more? Or the same on? Cuz filtering it through he same one wouldnt that just be like washing it with the same mix????
 
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By filtering it two or three times, they mean filter it using new cotton. First just filter it normally, with a cotton. Then wash/clean/steralize spoon, and shoot the solution from the syringe back into spoon. Drop a new cotton into it, and draw it up again through the new cotton. Repeat. Doing it this way is not as efficient as a micron filter obviously, but it is definitely better than nothing, or just filtering it once. You want the solution as clear as possible. Micron filters should give you a basically clear final solution, much better than cottons. Cotton can still let small particles/bacteria through it into your syringe, which subsequently will end up in your body. Over time this can cause a myriad of health issues, not to mention hardening/destroying the shit out of your veins.
 
BrokedownPalace said:
The stuff left over in your spoon is all of the binders/fillers from the pills. This stuff you DO NOT want in your syringe, much less your vein. It is not water soluble, so if you managed to get that shit in your veins it would just be particulates floating around your bloodstream/heart and causing severe complications.
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It's shit like this that scares me to death.
 
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It's shit like this that scares me to death.
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Yeah man, the truth can be scary.. Improper filtering and unnecessary heating of pills when prepping them for IV is serious shit. Check out the case studies and you'll see some gruesome shit thanks to shooting pills. If you are going to shoot pills, micron filters are pretty much mandatory if you want to be safe..
 
As everyone else said micron filtering is imperative to safely shoot pills

heat should be avoided because it will put things into the solution you do not want in there.

If you find yourself without a micron filter (then you shouldn't IV at all ideally) you can also backload a syringe with a bunch of cotton and add your solution through the top as well and push the solution through the syringe and that will remove many of the particulates. this is not an adequate replacement to micron filtering but it helps.
 
Well recently i tried the method of no heat.....i stirred it for quiet a while to make sure i got all the good stuff dissolved into the solution, but much to my surprise even tho i used a shit ton of water i got like 30 units out of over a 100!! And it was nowhere near clear! I was worried to blast it, so ofc i tried to filter it a second time, i lost even more of my shot, i did about 4 8mg dilaudid and i made them up in diff spoons and tried to combine them, but compared to the rush i have gotten by using enough heat to try and seperate some of the opiate from the filler it was almost nothing, i got a bigger rush from washing it a bit later after the cottons had dried. Idk if they way i did it without heat was wrong or what but im just really confused!!!
If someone could like give me better instructions on how to go about making up a shot without heat that would be great, im just trying to be safe.......BUT i dont wanna be wasting money and product..... I wanna be able to get the process down pat to where i am getting all possible opiate out and no filler. HELP ME PLEASE
 
It sounds like your cotton is absorbing a lot of the solution or something.. how big of a piece of cotton do you use? You need like a tiny ass piece balled up real tight.. I dunno man, that's strange.. Whenever I shot dilaudid I always got back almost as much water as I started with, minus 10-15 units.

Alternatively, you could filter your pills by 'backloading' a syringe. Take the plunger out, and stuff a bit of cotton down the barrel. Mix your dilaudid with water, then put it down the barrel with the cotton in it. Put the plunger back in and push the solution out, down through the cottong, out of the needle back into a spoon. Then draw it up with a clean needle and bang away. This may be easier for you, and you should be able to get most of your original liquid back.
 
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I have yet to try backloading cuz i mean it sounds simple, but im not sure if there is a way i can possibly fuck it up.

So if at all possible if someone can give me a more detailed way to do it that would be GREAT!!
 
When I used to IV I always double filtered. Sometime even triple filtered depending on the pill. Just remember the risk of this shit.

Be safe. And always remember to ask questions.
 
Dilaudid seems to be the best PILL to inject. Seems to be cleaner. The stuff left in your spoon is wax and other junk they put in pills (inactive stuff) Do NOT apply heat. This binds your drugs to the wax in the pills. I always used ~1ml water for shooting half an 8mg dilaudid.
 
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