HdoubleODeezy
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sorry for the double post, cuz i wanted this to be seen separately.. im not trying to sound like a dick or anything to you, it's just that i just woke up for the night and am still in wake up mode.
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Opioids Question for People Who Have Been On Methadone and Subs
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oxymoron87
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i have been addicted to opiates for about 7years oxycontin heroin hydromorphone whatever and have been going to mmt fer a few months now and i hate coming on here and hearing people bad mouthing methadone all the fucking time it is better than living that fucking lifestyle anymore thats for sure and subs and done are on the same leval to me enough of this one is better fuck this one if u knew shit about methadone u would know u dont secretly get high still and fer some people subs do not touch ther withdrawals like myself maybe she should be honest and let a fucking medical doctor decide for her instead of a bunch of people on the fucking internet who could be 12 years old fer all she knos
HdoubleODeezy
Bluelighter
^chill buddy..
who are you bitching at?
I have been addicted for as long as you or longer and have been on both MMT and BMT so i know what i am talking about when i speak.
who are you bitching at?
I have been addicted for as long as you or longer and have been on both MMT and BMT so i know what i am talking about when i speak.
oxymoron87
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im not really bitching at anyone just sick of the methadone is so bad shit all the time they are both drugs to help save you from a horrible life of addiction and just think that methadone gets a bad rap around here alot of the time and i think its worse to scare people away from it so they just continue with ther habit and getting on methadone is one of the best/smartest decisions i have made to have some what of a normal life now here they dont put you on it unless you have failed other programs and detoxes and only if u keep fucking up after thoes things will they think about puting you on it or atleast giving u funding for it
Wow, been out of town for the past 2 days & THANK YOU all for all the responses!
I have thought about the amount of APAP I'm consuming each day & that is just ANOTHER reason I want off this oxy!
For the one guy (or girl), I'm not going to base my final decision on what people from an online forum are telling me. I just wanted input/advice/experiences from people who have been on both. I truly have researched both a lot on my own & I am going to discuss this w/ my PM doc & see what he thinks.
I would rather go on the subs b/c I have tried them & know that they work well for me. Not only for the cravings, etc., but for the depression/anxiety, etc. Of course, this was only for a few days and I don't really know what will happen long-term, but I feel that subs are my better option at this point. I just figured out (which I'm really excited about) that my PM doc can actually prescribe me subs for PM w/o having to have a certificate. I guess that PM docs, if they are prescribing the subs specifically for pain management and not for addiction, don't have to have the certificate.
I'm not trying to get high any more. I'm trying to get off the oxy & quit the pill popping lifestyle I have. I feel like my life revolves around the pill taking now & I hate it! My tolerance is so sky high, I have to take a bunch just to feel "normal," but don't really even ever feel high anymore anyway.
As far as someone saying I should just be honest w/ my doc & let him decide what I should do, well I have to admit, I'm a junkie & as much as I want to get off the oxy, I don't want to shoot myself in the foot either. What do I do if I tell him & he kicks me out on my butt and I've already tried to find an MMT clinic and a sub doc & can't find either one in my area that doesn't have a long-ass waiting list. I would have to be driving 4 hours to try to find either one if I don't just get my PM doc to put me on the subs or the methadone. Also, if he kicks me out on my butt, that will put me off my Lyrica as well. Anyone who has had the Lyrica withdrawals knows how horrible these are & that is the last thing I need along w/ oxy withdrawals! I am wanting to stay on the Lyrica along w/ the subs. Oxy doesn't even help w/ Lyrica w/d's. It's like oxy or any other opiate w/d, but opiates don't even help!
Also, I did contact one sub doc in the area 4 hours away & he will only start the subs in-patient and then continue them out-patient. Honestly, I would LOVE to go to rehab right now, but I just really CAN'T right now. I have really good reasons, not just excuses, for that. Honestly, if I could go even for a week or 2 right now, I would be on it in a second!
Anyway, thank you all again for all the replies! I have my PM appt FINALLY on Tuesday & we shall see what happens. I'm praying for the subs & for the best!
I have thought about the amount of APAP I'm consuming each day & that is just ANOTHER reason I want off this oxy!
For the one guy (or girl), I'm not going to base my final decision on what people from an online forum are telling me. I just wanted input/advice/experiences from people who have been on both. I truly have researched both a lot on my own & I am going to discuss this w/ my PM doc & see what he thinks.
I would rather go on the subs b/c I have tried them & know that they work well for me. Not only for the cravings, etc., but for the depression/anxiety, etc. Of course, this was only for a few days and I don't really know what will happen long-term, but I feel that subs are my better option at this point. I just figured out (which I'm really excited about) that my PM doc can actually prescribe me subs for PM w/o having to have a certificate. I guess that PM docs, if they are prescribing the subs specifically for pain management and not for addiction, don't have to have the certificate.
I'm not trying to get high any more. I'm trying to get off the oxy & quit the pill popping lifestyle I have. I feel like my life revolves around the pill taking now & I hate it! My tolerance is so sky high, I have to take a bunch just to feel "normal," but don't really even ever feel high anymore anyway.
As far as someone saying I should just be honest w/ my doc & let him decide what I should do, well I have to admit, I'm a junkie & as much as I want to get off the oxy, I don't want to shoot myself in the foot either. What do I do if I tell him & he kicks me out on my butt and I've already tried to find an MMT clinic and a sub doc & can't find either one in my area that doesn't have a long-ass waiting list. I would have to be driving 4 hours to try to find either one if I don't just get my PM doc to put me on the subs or the methadone. Also, if he kicks me out on my butt, that will put me off my Lyrica as well. Anyone who has had the Lyrica withdrawals knows how horrible these are & that is the last thing I need along w/ oxy withdrawals! I am wanting to stay on the Lyrica along w/ the subs. Oxy doesn't even help w/ Lyrica w/d's. It's like oxy or any other opiate w/d, but opiates don't even help!
Also, I did contact one sub doc in the area 4 hours away & he will only start the subs in-patient and then continue them out-patient. Honestly, I would LOVE to go to rehab right now, but I just really CAN'T right now. I have really good reasons, not just excuses, for that. Honestly, if I could go even for a week or 2 right now, I would be on it in a second!
Anyway, thank you all again for all the replies! I have my PM appt FINALLY on Tuesday & we shall see what happens. I'm praying for the subs & for the best!
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tryingsohard2011
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Thank you! I feel the same way! Methadone has saved my LIFE! I have been on it for 8 months and detoxing for 2 months! I have gone down 10 mg a week from 135mg to 45mg and I feel FANTASTIC!!!
I have tried subs and relapsed every single time after getting off them! I feel like methadone is the only true thing that is going to make me opiate free! I love my life and its all because of methadone and the methadone clinic! I have been on ocs for 8 yrs and was taking nearly 800mg daily! I shot, snorted, chewed them, did everything I could to always stay fucked up! And now I am almost off methadone and really feel like I can come off easily. If I start to feel shitty (which I have not yet) I will take a benzo since I have a script just for this occasion.
You don't have to be on methadone your entire life, and only you know if you need treatment for addiction. If you feel like your going to kill yourself by ODing then get some help NOW! I don't care if you need to call the owner of the methadone clinic to tell him your going to kill yourself on accident because you take so many opiates, If you need help Please get it!
Good luck sweetie!
Lol......Reading problems? I called the IDEA laughable. Please make sure you understand what I am saying before attacking me for no reason.
The people I see abusing subs every day are scripted them. I don't know any people outside of the clinic who use. I don't have junkie friends, I have been seriously trying to recover for a long time.
The fact is that it is very easy to use other opiates while on sub maintenance. It is almost impossible to do so on methadone. I haven't gotten anything near a high from methadone in a very long time. Those of us who are serious about MMT have every right to be upset by the ignorant garbage that has been spewed on this thread about MMT patients.
On a side note, I have been attending some AA meetings. I tried a couple of NA meetings a few weeks ago, but feel more comfortable w/ this AA group, so I'm going w/ that. Husband has been very supportive of me going to the meetings. I actually went 3 or 4 nights last week.
ripamaru - oh my gosh, I cannot even believe this -- I wrote a LONG ass PM to you & THEN it told me I can't send PM's yet. I knew you had to have a certain number of posts before you could PM, but I figured it would tell you you weren't there yet BEFORE you actually typed the message, not when you tried to send it!!! Anyway, thanks for the offer, but I can't PM yet
ripamaru - oh my gosh, I cannot even believe this -- I wrote a LONG ass PM to you & THEN it told me I can't send PM's yet. I knew you had to have a certain number of posts before you could PM, but I figured it would tell you you weren't there yet BEFORE you actually typed the message, not when you tried to send it!!! Anyway, thanks for the offer, but I can't PM yet
On a side note, I have been attending some AA meetings. I tried a couple of NA meetings a few weeks ago, but feel more comfortable w/ this AA group, so I'm going w/ that. Husband has been very supportive of me going to the meetings. I actually went 3 or 4 nights last week.
ripamaru - oh my gosh, I cannot even believe this -- I wrote a LONG ass PM to you & THEN it told me I can't send PM's yet. I knew you had to have a certain number of posts before you could PM, but I figured it would tell you you weren't there yet BEFORE you actually typed the message, not when you tried to send it!!! Anyway, thanks for the offer, but I can't PM yet
My email is [email protected]
That shouldn't be a problem....the offer still stands of course.
chaying1313
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suboxone helps alot.. yes you can WD from it if you dont taper off. Any doctor prescribing it should be able to taper you off the opiate so you do not feel any WD symptoms. it helps alot...
Finally had my PM dr appt yesterday. He does not do subs at all, but he did put me on methadone. I am to take 10 mg 3 x day.
I took my first one last night & 2 so far today. I do not *feel* a thing. Thankfully, no w/d symptoms from all the oxy I was taking, but nothing from the methadone itself. I guess that's what I wanted though. I just need to get used to this new lifestyle & I can't expect it to take place overnight.
I still find myself itching to "take my pills" at different times. I used to pretty much just pop a couple of oxy whenever the whim came along all through the day.
I know that it will take awhile for the methadone to level out. How long does this usually take? 2 weeks, a month? I will go back in a month & probably could call sooner if I'm feeling like the 30 mg's arent' enough, but how long to kind of stabilize on this stuff?
Last question, if I haven't felt anything on the methadone yet, will I ever or do I just need to get used to feeling *normal* without any other feelings of euphoria or being on anything at all?
I took my first one last night & 2 so far today. I do not *feel* a thing. Thankfully, no w/d symptoms from all the oxy I was taking, but nothing from the methadone itself. I guess that's what I wanted though. I just need to get used to this new lifestyle & I can't expect it to take place overnight.
I still find myself itching to "take my pills" at different times. I used to pretty much just pop a couple of oxy whenever the whim came along all through the day.
I know that it will take awhile for the methadone to level out. How long does this usually take? 2 weeks, a month? I will go back in a month & probably could call sooner if I'm feeling like the 30 mg's arent' enough, but how long to kind of stabilize on this stuff?
Last question, if I haven't felt anything on the methadone yet, will I ever or do I just need to get used to feeling *normal* without any other feelings of euphoria or being on anything at all?
BrokedownPalace
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When I started methadone, it took a couple weeks for me to get used to it. The half life is pretty long, so after a 3-4 days the levels of 'done will build up a bit and you'll feel it a little more than you do now, possibly. 30mg isn't a huge dose, but definitely should keep w/d away. I take it every day and I no longer get any euphoria from it, and have definitely gotten used to the 'normal' feeling. It was quite a shock at first, going from shooting dope every day to just feeling... 'normal'. Believe me, it is nice though. Before on dope, it was either high, or sick. No in between. Now I am not high, but certainly not sick, and I have gotten used to just being 'normal'. Whatever normal is. Overall I certainly prefer to the constant ups and downs of dope and pills.