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IVing for the first time. Any advice?

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roller4ever

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I finally got my hands on some insulin injection needles and I'm planning on trying IVing for my first time next week. I'm excited but nervous about it. I've always been interested in IVing and I want to learn how to do it.

For a while now I've been reading everything I can about how to do it correctly and I think I've got it.

But, since this is a harm reduction forum... is there any advice in general that anyone would be able to give me?

For practice, I was thinking about giving myself an injection with just plain tap water first to give myself a chance to get the technique down. Is this advisable?

Oh, and by the way all of the needles that I got are brand new, sterile. They're 1/2 CC 30g.

Thanks.
 
don't do it. But if you are going to, you can practice on an orange. put the orange over ur forearm and fill the rig with some water. Poking through the skin of the orange will be similar to the feeling of poking through ur own skin. Get comfortable with going through the motions of drawing, injecting, registering, then shooting. Then you can practice on urself if you want. Sterile or distilled water would be best, not tap. I think its better to mess up a hit awith water than with dope..ha

good luck.

-cap
 
amapola linked to the Megathread, a wealth of information about IVing. Obviously "don't do it" is the smartest thing, but you clearly intend to do it. Please make sure you do it as cleanly as possible, as to minimize the risk of infection/abscesses etc. If you have any specific questions that cannot be answered in the mega thread don't hesitate to ask. You can PM me, even.

What substance will you be shooting btw?
 
my advice to you is....get ready for the fastest slide of your life. but if you are set on doing it, just be clean, never share needles or your works. if you have trouble hitting a vein make sure you drink plenty of water, and heat the area. once you insert the needle and you think you have it in a vein, pull the plunger back, if you are in a vein you will see it bloom, or you will see your blood shooting back into the needle, then slowly depress the plunger, holding the rig steady.
 
make it easy for yourself by moving your arms getting the blood pumping, loads of pressups, pull ups, then straigh away stick a belt/torniquet round your arm, just above your elbow joint, make it tight, do a few bend of the elbow to keep the blood pumping through and making your veins stick out, then shoot up according the the FAQ MENTIONED ABOVE.

my first time i had a phobia of stabbing myself so it was difficult, if you can somehow get over this and be confident you should have no problems.

but yes, i'm sure your aware, doing it once or controlling your use is one pain in the arse which creeps on you like a mother fucker.

best of luck dude
 
keep a low angle, aim up your arm along with the blood flow, not against. i pierce the skin then feel for the vein pierce, then i pull the plunger back, if theres blood i keep a very stead hand to ensure i keep the needle in the right position in the vein, then slowly push the plunger ensuring i feel no sting, then i know i havent missed, then i carry on slowly pushing down the plunger at my own comfort level.
 
Thank you all very much. Bluelight is really a great community!

This is all very good advice and I'm making sure I study, read and re-read it.

Yeah, I know "don't do it" is the best way and I actually don't HAVE TO do it. I'm just really curious about it because I'm bored with swallowing pills and snorting. I'm looking for something that's a little more exciting. On the other hand, IVing killed my Uncle instantly the first time he tried it, so I have my reservations about it.

One more question, and I realize that this sounds incredibly stupid but keep in my mind that I'm new to this and everybody has to start somewhere. I figure it's better to ask and feel stupid than not ask and possibly be dead. If you're IVing you generally use a lower dose, right? For instance, I plan on IVing Methylone. I always start with 250mg orally. If I IV it, would I still use the whole 250mg or would I start with a smaller dose? Does it matter? I know that no matter what ROA you use, it eventually ends up in your blood anyway, but the difference with IVing is that it hits you all at once that's why I ask.

Also, can somebody tell me the exact reason as to why you shouldn't use tap water? I would assume it's because of the bacteria in the water?
 
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I know that no matter what ROA you use, it eventually ends up in your blood anyway
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Not quite. It's called the bioavailibilty of different routes of administration. For example with morphine shooting it is three to four times more powerful than eating it. It has too do with how much is destroyed by your stomach, and absorbed by your GI tract, and metabolized by first pass of your liver. That is for eating. Snorting and plugging it has to do with how well it can cross the mucus membranes.

I don't know what the different bioavailabilities are for methylone but you should almost assuredly use much much less if it is good for shooting at all.

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Also, can somebody tell me the exact reason as to why you shouldn't use tap water? I would assume it's because of the bacteria in the water?
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Bacteria, chlorine, flouride, calcium & magnesium, etc. Injecting into your blood stream is bypassing all of your body's physical barrier defenses.
 
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One more question, and I realize that this sounds incredibly stupid but keep in my mind that I'm new to this and everybody has to start somewhere. I figure it's better to ask and feel stupid than not ask and possibly be dead. If you're IVing you generally use a lower dose, right? For instance, I plan on IVing Methylone. I always start with 250mg orally. If I IV it, would I still use the whole 250mg or would I start with a smaller dose? Does it matter? I know that no matter what ROA you use, it eventually ends up in your blood anyway, but the difference with IVing is that it hits you all at once that's why I ask.
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IMO you should start low maybe 50mg then go from there to see how your react and what your ideal dose is. be careful man and try your best not to get hooked on that needle!
 
Ah... I see. I'm glad I asked.

My needles came today, and looking at them I'm getting cold feet. LOL. :) I'm having second thoughts about it. I still want to do this, but after talking to you guys I'm seeing that there's so much that can go wrong. Even if I thought that I had the physical technique down from studying and reading, the other variables are copious. I'm probably an OD waiting to happen.

We'll see... I may or may not try this tonight. I got some salvia today too so I might try that instead.
 
If you inject straight H2O, the local blood cells around the injection site will begin to absorb the water and basically they lyse and die. The easy way around this is to use saline solution. The hydrophilic properties of the salt will keep the blood and other cells from over absorbing the water and popping.

I'm not making this shit up either.
 
A few quick tips I feel like mentioning: If you use a tourniquet (e.g. a belt), register and then release the pressure, make sure you're still in the vein, and then press the plunger carefully. If it ever hurts or forms a lump under the skin, immediately STOP. you are missing, and this can lead to an abscess, not fun. Make sure your hands and surfaces and whatnot are clean.
Finally, be careful. Once you pick up the needle, you will never be able to unfeel what comes next.
 
Congratulate me. I just successfully carried out my first IV! =D I got it on my first try. It was easy. I think I did too little though because while I'm feeling it, I'm not feeling it as hard as when I snort so I might give myself another shot. I wanted to start low though as everyone suggested I do. I'll wait a little while and see what happens.
 
Oh, my god. This is amazing! When you said that I would never go back to another ROA I think you were right. I gave myself a shot of Tranquility and then I gave myself a shot of Methylone. The rush is amazing. I felt like I was going to pass out. I tried to give myself another shot while I was starting to get high from the first and I missed. Now I have a lump under the skin on my arm and it hurts. I tried it again and got it. I pushed the plunger in and in a few seconds it was hitting me so hard I could barely stand up.

On the one hand I'm extremely proud of myself that I got it right on the first try and my research and studying paid off. On the other hand I hate myself because I just graduated into becoming an IV substance abuser. Never in my life did I ever think I would do that.

I'm so high that I called my mother to tell her what I did. She was not proud. She said she was disappointed. She was always so proud of me that I never did drugs. Now she has nothing to be proud of. She was bitching at me "You're turning into a junkie". My parents want to send me to this place for substance abuse but I don't think I need it. I think that I'm developing a problem, but I kind of like it. These days I'm like a twisted little pharmacist. My apartment is full of drug paraphernalia. I can't imagine to going back to life without drugs. It's just too depressing to go back to the real world. One of the reasons I don't want to go because if I go to rehab they're going to take it away from me. I'm not even sure I have a problem. As far as I know, none of the stuff I do is physically addictive with the exception of MDPV. I'm just psychologically addicted probably. Once I crash out the only thing I can think about is getting high and I can't wait to get to it.

Funny... when I was little I won an AWARD from the state I live in and was honored by the Governor for an essay I wrote about why I would never use drugs. They gave me a plaque. You wanna see FAIL? Look at that. LOL. They should see me now.



I think I'm going to need to buy more needles. :)

I'm too high to be posting. Sorry if this is long. Again, congratulate me as I have joined the ranks of you who shoot up. You're right, this IS too good! I'm think I just want to IV my drugs from now on. Everything else seems so bland. I crave getting high, but now I think I might start craving the IV rush more. I think I might need another shot, as it seems that the effects don't last as long as orally taking it.

For those of you wondering, Methylone is FANTASTIC to shoot.
 
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I'm so high that I called my mother to tell her what I did. She was not proud. She said she was disappointed. She was always so proud of me that I never did drugs. Now she has nothing to be proud of. She was bitching at me "You're turning into a junkie". My parents want to send me to this place for substance abuse but I don't think I need it. I think that I'm developing a problem, but I kind of like it. These days I'm like a twisted little pharmacist. My apartment is full of drug paraphernalia. I can't imagine to going back to life without drugs. It's just too depressing to go back to the real world. One of the reasons I don't want to go because if I go to rehab they're going to take it away from me. I'm not even sure I have a problem.

I'm too high to be posting. Sorry if this is long. Again, congratulate me as I have joined the ranks of you who shoot up. You're right, this IS too good! I'm think I just want to IV my drugs from now on. Everything else seems so bland. I crave getting high, but now I think I might start craving the IV rush more. I think I might need another shot, as it seems that the effects don't last as long as orally taking it.

For those of you wondering, Methylone is FANTASTIC to shoot.
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Read this after you come down, if you think this is normal your REALLY fucked up.
I mean, you clearly have a strong addicting personality, if you let this happen it will happen.
 
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Read this after you come down, if you think this is normal your REALLY fucked up.
I mean, you clearly have a strong addicting personality, if you let this happen it will happen.
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Well, I never said it was normal. Normal for this forum maybe. Yeah, I get addicted to stuff QUICK.

I have kind of a weird situation. I never used drugs my entire life. It's only within the past few years that I'm starting to have a problem. I suffer from severe OCD and bipolar and I've had problems with self injury since I was 12. At one point in my life I was homeless and lived on the street. That's where I got my first taste of drugs. Then I found out that I can avoid cutting myself by getting high so I started doing more and more and now I can't possibly imagine being without it. I say that I kind of like my developing problem because I'm dead on the inside. After multiple suicide attempts, I'm just an empty shell. Drugs make me feel alive; like a whole person. Self injury used to be my drug, but now I found a better way. I already have permanent loss of movement in my wrist and nerve damage from hitting muscles and tendons so I look at it like I'm doing the lesser of two evils. I'm doing permanent damage with self injury, but I'm not while I'm high. Plus, I get the added benefit of feeling good for once.

Sorry if this is long. I'm still high as fuck and I just found myself a girlfriend for a few hours so I'm off to have some fun. This is turning out to be the most amazing night ever.
 
Shit dude its gonna get rough for ya quick style. Self medication is only temporary. I've been doing it for years, and the only permanent thing it did for me was give me a really bad and hard to kick drug habit.

Be careful dude. It can get pretty bad at times.
 
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