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We want our MDA/Speed/MDEA/MDMA mix pills back NOW/MDMA isn't MDMA bollocks

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Superstition is a credulous belief or notion, not based on reason or knowledge. The word is often used pejoratively to refer to folk beliefs deemed irrational, which is appropriate since irrational means "not based on reason".
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MDMA Superstition is a specialisation of normal superstition. It describes the irrational belief that MDMA isn't MDMA.
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MDMAhead said:
Long before that labtest result came back, I said that the green stars contained a combination of MDMA + mephedrone. And seeing as it's apparent that DDL cannot identify mephedrone (along with most other cathinones).........
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Jesus man, A GC/MS test will Identify mephrodrone, where are you getting your information from?
 
the only way you can overcome that issue then if your worried about adulterated pills mdhead is if you find a trusted source and try out some crystals.

make sure they look like theyve not been tampered with and if youve got a test kit, run the tests and then just give it a go.

its the only option you have left really, and not all crystals are made very well imo, but thats subjective to me and how i feel about some of them, but thats probally changing all the time, i no that to be true, so maybe try giving that a whirl instead
 
Beak said:
anyone who reckons that mdma / pills have changed,take a leaf out of my book and take a trip to amsterdam ,get talking to some locals and get yourself off to some of the local parties, = flashback ,everyone caked ,loved up and dancing ,it brings it all back imo, or could it be the dutch pills;)
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I wish all these kids (the likes of 'mattnotrik' and 'Captain Codshit') would go to a club night in the Netherlands, so they could see what clubbing used to be like in the UK. Otherwise they'll never know what they missed out on.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-12480310


Don't know if this has been posted yet, but i am 100% certain this is what the problem is with most of the people in here.

A patient's belief that a drug will not work can become a self fulfilling prophecy, according to researchers.
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People like MDMAhead are constantly thinking 'this is going to be crap and do nothing'


and guess what then actually happens ;)
 
still, had the green star contained mephedrone, which it did not, it would have still been listed as unidentified.

clubs are not dead, trance just is
 
Exactly. Now can we just stfu with this argument lol. It's getting really boring and turning all these threads to absolute shit, either get on with and go out and have fun, or just move on and find something else. It's quite clear you aren't gonna find this 100% pure MDMA that will rock your world, and even when you do, you'll pick at it so much that you still won't be satisfied by it. Such a shame, I've loved all my MDMA experiences...
 
d1989 said:
People like MDMAhead are constantly thinking 'this is going to be crap and do nothing'


and guess what then actually happens ;)
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People like you are just making excuses for crap drugs. I feel sorry that you can't even see that you're being ripped off.
 
Evad said:
still, had the green star contained mephedrone, which it did not, it would have still been listed as unidentified.
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Until DDL prove that they can identify mephedrone (which requires both the chrmoatography and the mass spectrometry to work), as well as other cathinones, I have no faith in them whatsoever.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-12480310
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^ yes it's been posted twice. I posted it within 30 mins of it being published in the other thread, then jancrow posted it in this thread. I agree with you, the placebo affect alone can account for all qualitative differences in MDMA rendering the argument pointless.

the only way you can overcome that issue then if your worried about adulterated pills mdhead is if you find a trusted source and try out some crystals.
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Loving this. How can you trust your source? Do you think they even know much about the quality of the MDMA? Dealers always bullshit, they never know anything. With some of the MDMA made in clandestine labs, probably the chemist himself only has a vague idea of the quality of his product. Testing kits are your only (vague) indication of quality short of getting it lab tested.
 
Evad said:
still, had the green star contained mephedrone, which it did not, it would have still been listed as unidentified.

clubs are not dead, trance just is
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Mephedrone needs 250mgs to get a full effect, so to make a usable mephedrone pill it would have to be huge, like twice the size of normal pills I'd say 400mgs weight including the binder.
 
do you no what mdhead, between websites like PR and here, we armed with so much information as to whats real, whether thats really real, allegedly real, made well whatever its irrelevant i admit in that respect because we have more information than your average bod on the street, so at least we have a head start to have an idea of what to possibly look out for, combine that with a test kit and maybe a good source or two and most importantly just relax and go out and have fun and try something and see how you get on.

nobody can ask for anything more really, and what i would say is if your very old skool like me, then i was personally brought up on 200 mg drops, and although i dont promote people behaving recklessly, it may even take a little bit more to push those buttons than your average person.

i would always make sure i do 150mg drop, whether i work out approx rumours from whats in a pill or buy crystal it doesnt matter

evad, i am definitley not turning on mdhead, im just trying to make him see reason, theres not much else he can do
 
the test results they have would identify mephedrone when compared to the correct reference, I have contacted the lab to clarify this.

(which requires both the chrmoatography and the mass spectrometry to work)
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also neccessary to identify any chemical via this method ie the MDMA they identified in the pill which you had one not so good experience with


Even if they can not identify a substance they list it as unidentified, it is not a matter of lack of skill or the GC/MS being unsuccessful just not having reference material to compare it to. There was no unidentified component in your pill therefore there was no mephedrone.

I can't believe you're so stubborn you're calling into question the practices of a reputable lab rather than admitting that it's possible to not automatically have the greatest night ever because you took some MDMA, that is some impressive stubbornness. The fact even dee_dee has turned on you now should say something man.

d1989 said:
I am still able to enjoy the wonders of MDMA and have an amazing time. You are not. So how am i getting ripped off?
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haha exactly
 
Evad said:
the test results they have would identify mephedrone when compared to the correct reference, I have contacted the lab to clarify this.



also neccessary to identify any chemical via this method ie the MDMA they identified in the pill which you had one not so good experience with


Even if they can not identify a substance they list it as unidentified, it is not a matter of lack of skill or the GC/MS being unsuccessful just not having reference material to compare it to. There was no unidentified component in your pill therefore there was no mephedrone.

I can't believe you're so stubborn you're calling into question the practices of a reputable lab rather than admitting that it's possible to not automatically have the greatest night ever because you took some MDMA, that is some impressive stubbornness. The fact even dee_dee has turned on you now should say something man.



haha exactly
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Evad, I don't suppose you asked them the quantity? I know they can't post it on their website, but you might, ahem, whisper it here?
 
I doubt my BL powers will have any effect on their DEA gag
 
They would tell us if they could, but in order for them to keep their license to test these chemicals they gotta keep that hush. It's a shame, but it's a good price to pay, at least we know what chemicals are in there. Better than having nothing/only marquis.
 
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