We want our MDA/Speed/MDEA/MDMA mix pills back NOW/MDMA isn't MDMA bollocks

[Evad]

this is your board evad at the end of the day, why dont you take the thread down then, you might as well, people dont want it here so just remove it, im suprised it popped up again in the first place tbh, for a peaceful life take it down, every single pill and crystal out there apprently is marvellous, it must be some of these people.

just leave it at that, i no i would

nite for now anyway

popped up again? it was always here, learn to use the search engine or bookmark it, just because it's not on the first page doesn't mean it's gone. computers too much science for you? . It is by no means my board, I merely enforce the (very fair) rules.

nobody has ever said all crystal and pills are marvellous, just there's decent quality out there if you got the connects/luck, just accept it, or you going to use your badman evidence to get the site shut down because you got ripped buying drugs in a club?

 

[ecsplosiv]

Fucking hell anyone seen the film groundhog day?

Forgot tip my hat to this earlier, quality

What isn't a myth is that clubs in the UK today look nothing like the clubs of 10 years ago. Dee_Dee knows this, and so do I. I don't see any of the ecstasy stereotypes anymore (I can't be arsed listing them all again for the 100th time - search through my recent posts and you'll see them).

Well I tend to disagree, when I go clubbing I see that the good times are very much back. During the drought there was a demonstrable and tangible difference. Now it's smiles all round and symptomatic of MDMA goodness. I see this everywhere I go too. Actually the most noticeable difference was Ibiza in 2009, that was a shit season.

It seems to me there are a lot of people in EADD who are determined to beleive that all the drugs they buy are premium quality, regardless of what me or anyone else says. It's as though their only source of pride in life is that they buy good-quality drugs.

The quality issue isn't as much a big deal for MDMA as other drugs. MDMA is rarely cut, and it's purity is usually high. So you can't really talk about the poor quality of MDMA in the same way you could for Coke or H. The main indicator of quality in pills is the amount of MDMA present, simple as that.

I have to be honest - I don't buy any of this talk about different synthing methods. I think most of the 'MDMA' in this country (whether it's in pill or crystal form) is either not MDMA at all, or contains deliberately-added adulterants.

Thank you for conceding that. As for the adulterants, this is at least a plausible and sensible view but I would argue that we would have seen some evidence of this based on the many lab tests that have been performed, not to mention reagent colour tests and qualitative experiences. If active adulterants were used I think people would obviously pick up on them rather than a few people thinking the pills felt a bit "iffy". Especially since most people on this board recreationally take the chemicals that would be used as adulterants on their own.

 

[Evad]

MDMAhead you are basing the fact that all pills/mdma are not mdma on an extremely small sample from a restricted geographical area. why are you unable to believe that somewhere in the UK there is good stuff? you only have to read the heroin drought thread/look at the brownies map to see how vastly price/availability and quality of drugs can vary over our little island.

 

[MDMAhead]

MDMAhead you are basing the fact that all pills/mdma are not mdma on an extremely small sample from a restricted geographical area. why are you unable to believe that somewhere in the UK there is good stuff? you only have to read the heroin drought thread/look at the brownies map to see how vastly price/availability and quality of drugs can vary over our little island.

I do beleive there are real pills in the UK, but I beleive they are still extremely rare. I got lucky on NYE and stumbled across a pretty good pill. But given what I saw when I went clubbing 2 weeks ago, how can I possibly beleive that real pills are anything other than extremely rare?

Manchester is a big city, and has a long history of cheap, abundant drugs (I got that line from 24 Hour Party People ). If real pills are rare in Manchester, then I find it hard to beleive they are common in other British cities.

 

[dee_dee]

I do beleive there are real pills in the UK, but I beleive they are still extremely rare. I got lucky on NYE and stumbled across a pretty good pill. But given what I saw when I went clubbing 2 weeks ago, how can I possibly beleive that real pills are anything other than extremely rare?

Manchester is a big city, and has a long history of cheap, abundant drugs (I got that line from 24 Hour Party People ). If real pills are rare in Manchester, then I find it hard to beleive they are common in other British cities.

no, they are around. its going to be subjetctive to the user how good they think they are though tbh. i certainly havent tried them all i have a bit more common sense, and neither have the time or inclination due to obvious sensible and health factors to do so.

the guy i get mine from when i go out in london has had all of these so far

route 66 (me not tried but apprently very good and hes been doing md for years, this is the only one hell champion its cause out of this list)
camels
red stars
pink diamonds
standbys

and the guys i get my crystal have had or in some cases do have all of these

misty clear crystal
brown crystal
new grey crystal which definitley is not that old skanky batch from last summer or off the brown block
bright yellow crystal (yummy)

and theres more than that obviously floating round all over the place, you only need t see what people put on here or have a look at pill reports, theres so much variety of stuff. this is just two connections i use that list, so it is defintley around mdhead and i dont even go out that regular to look for it, and ive come across people with all this recentley. (it helps having worked in nightclubs i guess at one point or another, i must admit)

just get hunting, and what ive personally tried ive tipped you off big time what i think, i cant do anymore than that, make friends, ask around and happy hunting, and i no it is frustrating for sure, if your determined to find it you will, even if it takes a bit of time, ive had to sift my way through quite a bit of that list (not all the pills mind) just to find what im looking for, and if he aint there sat morning with whats on my shopping list when i go out clubbing theres going to be blood, because its my monthly blow out treat and im actually really looking forward to it for a change

 

[mattnotrik]

@MDMAHead im not sure how you can still use that argument, im past getting wound up about it I just find it pretty wierd Im not sure if theres something wrong in your head or its something else. You said the majority of the stuff is not bad quality, its just simply not MDMA, ill say it again like I did 1000x you thought that the green stars were not mdma, you were 99% sure about it you were so adament that they were not you even sent it to get a sample and when they came back you couldnt believe it...

just try and take that into account when you next think that something is not MDMA, you were wrong once before you could defiantley be wrong again..

This "Spinning top" pill you got "lucky", in manchester im sure thats another name for the diamonds, as they do look identical to a spinning top

NSFW:

The clubs are going to be different from 10 years ago, alot has changed none of the clubs are going to be the same, the music and people have changed alot its not going to be the same at all...

If you could just accept that you generally dont have the sources to find any of the current good pills or MDMA that are 100% in Manchester at the moment then thats fine, but dont lie like its not there just because you cant find it, it seems like your the last person on here to be left in the past.

I dont belive all drugs are premium quality because they are not, but what drugs are premium quality?? you get what you pay for, you pay more you get more...Ive spoke to people who have been doing pills for 10+ years and they say the white 140s are pills just like the old days, if not even cleaner..

What about them smileys you had, were they not cheap, abundant and MDMA.......

 

[nomy]

i certainly wont be typing in here alot, unless its to answer somone or agree or disagree with them, in the politest possible way of course, and withought impying theyve got brain damage or not well connected or should knock it on the head.

you no people will get bored and this thread will disappear pretty quick more than likely to the bottom of the list, if it pops up from time to time so what? its not hurting anyone surely

I have no problem with this thread's existence at all, I never suggested otherwise. I was just stressing that not all of us oldies are grumpy and unhappy with the current state of affairs. And to point out that there has been a drift from flat denial to reluctant acceptance that there is MDMA about.

I'll ignore the little dig highlighted. I just use sarcasm, not threats to close places down

Seriously though mate, I do sometimes find your posts difficult to understand. You seem to flip over at tangents, and you appear inconsistent at times. One minute you think the 'MDMA industry' is some great malevolent beast that is dead set on ripping us off, or poisoning everyone with 98% shite. Then the next - like your last post - you come across as born again, and looking forward to a good night out after listing all the lovely goodies that are out there to MDMAhead. Are you just naturally argumentative?

What isn't a myth is that clubs in the UK today look nothing like the clubs of 10 years ago. Dee_Dee knows this, and so do I. I don't see any of the ecstasy stereotypes anymore (I can't be arsed listing them all again for the 100th time - search through my recent posts and you'll see them).

It seems to me there are a lot of people in EADD who are determined to beleive that all the drugs they buy are premium quality, regardless of what me or anyone else says. It's as though their only source of pride in life is that they buy good-quality drugs.

Maybe they've just moved clubs. Like Evad says, psytrance is where it's at for sure. No shortage of warmth there. Nobody goes to clubs less than me, but like I said before, the Steve Lawler gig I went to was full of happy people, a good portion of which were clearly off their faces on MD, so it's certainly out there.

Nobody is saying that everything out there is quality, there is plenty of shit as I keep saying.

you can prove anything with facts mate, don't trust em myself

Lol, great youtube clip btw. Very relevant

this is your board evad at the end of the day, why dont you take the thread down then, you might as well, people dont want it here so just remove it, im suprised it popped up again in the first place tbh, for a peaceful life take it down, every single pill and crystal out there apprently is marvellous, it must be some of these people.

Eggshells again innit? You're always a borderline teddy thrower aren't you? Evad was asking for people to use this thread to sound off about MD quality, so I just gave it a little bump. Anyway, look what's happened!

 

[MDMAhead]

you thought that the green stars were not mdma, you were 99% sure about it you were so adament that they were not you even sent it to get a sample and when they came back you couldnt believe it...

No. I said that the green stars contained a combination of MDMA + mephedrone.

 

[mattnotrik]

No. I said that the green stars contained a combination of MDMA + mephedrone.

It was MDEA, then it was MDMA + Mephedrone, so which one was it? neither..

Im not here to act like a twat and argue senselessly but you do come out with some tripe

 

[dee_dee]

tbh i dont care who makes my mdma as long as its done well and there greatful for our money, and i defo dont buy into any mass marketing campaigns or anyone is better than anyone else. if the dutch make great pills then not many wholsalers/suppliers or whatever stick there hands deep in there pockets and bring the cream of the crop over for us, thats for sure

those route 66 may only have 135 mgs of md in them, but i cant hear enough good things about them, problem is you only have to look at the pill reports board to see, they are not on a massive scale over here, there more than likely being passed around small scale amongst friends and people that love md, unlike something like that diamond that might as well be standing on every street corner in britain in comparrison.

the diamonds are cheap, the route 66 are very expensive, it doesnt seem like many people are prepared to speculate that people will pay top dollar enough to bring these top ones over here, not in amounts to satisfy the hungry uk anyway, lol

 

[MDMAhead]

It was MDEA, then it was MDMA + Mephedrone, so which one was it? neither..

Long before that labtest result came back, I said that the green stars contained a combination of MDMA + mephedrone. And seeing as it's apparent that DDL cannot identify mephedrone (along with most other cathinones).........

 

[Evad]

any other organic substance would have come back as unknown with a ratio to the MDMA if that was the case MDMAhead.

 

[Beak]

i wouldnt be surprised if someone had not tried to experiment with mdma and meph,
some of the best pills i have had were mdma and phet,
this i know for a fact

 

[MDMAhead]

any other organic substance would have come back as unknown with a ratio to the MDMA if that was the case MDMAhead.

How can they give a ratio for a substance that they cannot identify? (that was a rhetorical question - the answer is 'they can't')

 

[Evad]

they can quite easily MDMAhead, there would be peaks on the GCMS results by which they would be able to determine the mass of the unknown substance.

edit: even if not mass the prevalence of unknown in ratio to MDMA would be easy to see ftom the results. I have contacted the lab asking for the full GCMS details.
They are not irresponsible/stupid in that they'd overlook other actives and just put MDMA:1 if they didn't have the relevant profiles of other actives.

That pill contained only MDMA.

 

[MDMAhead]

they can quite easily MDMAhead, there would be peaks on the GCMS results by which they would be able to determine the mass of the unknown substance.

Well have you ever seen DDL publish a result as 'MDMA x : Unknown y' ?

 

[Evad]

yep loads

http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=1542

http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=1531

http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=1429

http://www.ecstasydata.org/view.php?id=616

etcetcetc

 

[mattnotrik]

 

[ecsplosiv]

God this is getting ridiculous. We should ask people to fill out a psychometric profile before being allowed to post in this thread.

edit -- ^^ Matt, roflmfaso!!

 

[dee_dee]

lmfao. even i can see what they mean mdhead come on

i really cant stress enough u just have to get out there and keep trying stuff thats real, that is all you or anyone can do, but do it on your terms, dont just get sucked into being just a number in consuerism for the sake of it.

if you dont like that pill or cyrstal you try, dismiss it as quick as you can, thats what i do. as long as your doing a decent dose it should push that button.

your intelligent enough to no you can get trashy and fucked up but that doesnt mean its pushing that button, then u just leave that stuff alone and next time try something else out of the selection box on offer.

theres quite a big box of choice to choose from atm, we are quite lucky in that respect