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We want our MDA/Speed/MDEA/MDMA mix pills back NOW/MDMA isn't MDMA bollocks

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Evad said:
it's like me claiming that there can't be any MDMA about because people are no longer wearing dungarees and sucking on dummies? ;).
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MDMA doesn't compel people to wear dungarees and suck on dummies; those are just fashions, that will inevitably change over time. But MDMA does compel people to touch other people, hence you used to see people in clubs hugging each other and giving each other massages. But I haven't seen that for many years.
 
MDMAhead said:
MDMA doesn't compel people to wear dungarees and suck on dummies; those are just fashions, that will inevitably change over time. But MDMA does compel people to touch other people, hence you used to see people in clubs hugging each other and giving each other massages. But I haven't seen that for many years.
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maybe your just a pervert? :)

it does make people more sensual indeed, i think youve got to rememebr though back then we was all young, its a bit easier to control our instincts and feeling as we get a bit older, ie we are more aware of whats considered sociablly exceptable and expected and our able to adapat to that more possibly.

but still you are not wrong, most mdma is not empathetic or sensual or anything anymore, it appears to be quite rare.

that stuff i had though defo, couldnt dance on it till much later on though, just sat there staring into outer space, blatantly where we had not experienced anything like that in many years.

later on we could boogie once the rushes calmed down.

was very much increased sense of smell taste touch etc, even when u walked past somone with aftershave on the smell, everything smelt great
 
i dont think theres anything wrong with that test result cooleman, its all good is it not?

i no it was mdma, just some very random shoddy 90's synth it felt like to me. was quite good fun at the time though. i thought id do them again but in hindsight i dont think i actually would, ive found something in a different league now.

i want to up the stakes not go backwards. it definitley suited the party i was at, at the time though, i had good fun :)
 
dee_dee said:
i dont think theres anything wrong with that test result cooleman, its all good is it not?

i no it was mdma, just some very random shoddy 90's synth it felt like to me. was quite good fun at the time though. i thought id do them again but in hindsight i dont think i actually would, ive found something in a different league now.

i want to up the stakes not go backwards. it definitley suited the party i was at, at the time though, i had good fun :)
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Didnt mean to post the link in here lol
 
Evad said:
regular occurrences at psytrance nights as i said
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I find it hard to beleive that good pills are confined to the psytrance scene, whereas all other scenes get the garbage.

Although you did make a valid point earlier, when you said that many people don't bother with pills anymore (because they've been shit for so many years), and instead stick to alcohol, mephedrone, and ketamine, meaning that even if good pills are starting to come back, a lot of people wont be on them (especially given most people's reluctance to pay more than £5 for a pill).

Like I say, the 'spinning top' pill I had on NYE was ok - certainly better than all the other 'super pills' I had in 2010. I'd have liked to have taken a 2nd of them, to see if it did get me properly loved-up, but sadly the girl who sold it me only had the one going spare :(
 
sorry, i wasn't trying to imply that the good pills are confined to that scene, just that the lovey touchy types are more likely to be drawn to it these days as it's far more popular than it once was. IME they're always filled with wide eyed, smiley huggy people, people giving each other massages etc
 
Evad said:
sorry, i wasn't trying to imply that the good pills are confined to that scene, just that the lovey touchy types are more likely to be drawn to it these days as it's far more popular than it once was. IME they're always filled with wide eyed, smiley huggy people, people giving each other massages etc
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But the thing is..........MDMA will turn even the most aggressive scally (think Shaun Ryder) into the most touchy-feely, loved-up, smiling, harmless human being. I have seen this happen on numerous occasions in years gone by, and it makes me laugh when I think about it now :)
 
No drug can guarantee it will completely loosen you up and "hug" people and feel empathy everytime you take it. even if it was pure everytime u took it....Your forgetting your an organic human being has lived life and exprienced life much more.The rest is a delusional wormhole with the promise of the perfect pill/crystal giving you a fredom you can no longer get.Those that argue most on this thread seem to be on the antibuse version of mdma where its being denied to them for some unexplainable reason.Im sure its frustrating but its not all about drugs i.mo.
Peace."Its not a rehearsal"
 
jimboid1 said:
love it when us old bastards club together. You know it's true.
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Well count me out of the grumpy old bastards club. I'll start my own happy and content old bastards gang then :\

I'll repeat myself again here, but this is just for the benefit of any new readers here to add perspective and balance....I had my first pill back around 94 ish. I have no idea what it was, but I was <3 'd up to the max. Wonderful stuff. Then followed some great times on doves and cola bottles and many other nameless beans - I wasn't hung up wuth names back then, my source was good and reliable, and everything I had from him was class.

For the first year or maybe less, the joy was pretty much the same, then it slowly faded although the scene was the same. I know it had nothing to do with the pills as I had got a large stash to tie me over. In the end it became the norm to add some phet to the night. That was my favourite time, speed was my bag from way, way back anyway, and it went so well with E's as Jarvis the man himself said. So, the magic of the honeymoon faded as I got familiar with the buzz, but I never tired of it. I still loved the warm rushy empathy that I always got. But it was like repeatedly going on the best adrenalin ride at a theme park; familiarity dulled the euphoria, so I needed to add some spice. This was great for 10 years or so, until the magic really did start to get thin on the ground back in 2005 or so. My source stopped dealing, and I ended up taking things from randoms, and the magic turned sketchy and nasty. Welcome to pips, although I had no idea at the time. I just thought I'd burnt out. I gave up ever finding anything back in about 2007/8, but then realised through this great place the truth of what had happened to the scene with the flood of adulterated pills.

Roll on to this time last year when the first glimmers of hope came out. After lots of searching through old and dying contacts (yeah, I am that old :) ), I sourced some of the orange VW's. Fuck me, it was divine. Like an old familiar warm friend. Sure, it wasn't the best and I had no phet. But it was as good as some I've had back in the 90's and 2k. I've also had the pink diamonds and some crystal. The diamonds were just plain ok. The crystal was clear, sharp, rushy, empathic and musically enhancing. As good as any MDMA I've ever had. So, just as I did back in the mid 90's after the honeymoon ended, I knew I'd never get the exact same feelings as I did back at the very start. But do I get empathy? Oh yes. Do I chat to randoms? Yep, and embarass myself no doubt. Do I enjoy the music? Hell yeah! Do I give massages? Nope, I never did. DO I give hugs? I do, but need to be careful I don't get arrested at my age. Do I enjoy pervy sexy time...fuck yeah! DO I suck dummies? No, just the nearest available nipple....usually the wifes if I'm sensible.

So for me, there is no question that there is plenty of good stuff out there now, and that's fantastic. The price of pills is coming down and importantly, increasing in quality too it seems. Of course there's shit out there, but there always was.

I think the argument has now moved on from there is no MDMA out there now, and it's more a point that some people just can't source the good stuff. And I can sympathise with that one. It gets fukin tough to be taken seriously as an aging head. But lets be right about this, MOP has had some recent success, and even MDMAhead has admitted to finding something close to the old stuff. And that's surely encouraging.

So can we perhaps change the title to 'OK, there is real MDMA out there, but I just can't find any' ...Just to save confusion :)

So yeah, not all of us aging fossils are unhappy. I'd say the stuff I've had recently, is pretty much the same quality as I had back in the day. And that's without trying the Qdance.
 
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i quite like the title as it is nomy dont you? its appropriate for the way some people feel that may want to type in here from time to time if there not happy about the issue, and even me even though i had an amazing time last time i came across something, its not good enough that its all hit and miss, there entitiled to have there voice heard and have a bit of a whinge, its not interfering with the regional pills thread, as everyone thats content and happy tbh shouldnt really be interfering with whats going on in here imo.

if this thread is here it keeps the moaning to in here and we dont have problems with it crossing over into the regional pills section, and this is how the problems start.

u no it makes sense

ps, and the title is quite amusing is it not, its a bit of tongue in cheek, if people want to humour the people in here then so be it, im sure they can take a joke, whats more important is they have somewhere to say there piece for the moment surely, theres still alot of shoddy shite going around, even if there is good stuff, that is a fact

i certainly wont be typing in here alot, unless its to answer somone or agree or disagree with them, in the politest possible way of course, and withought impying theyve got brain damage or not well connected or should knock it on the head.

the mdma industry is not and should not start gagginng people that have pumped obscene amounts of money into it for over two decades, and most definitley not in the aid of harm reduction as this is a harm reduction site surely, and if i could have my way they would not, but thats not down to me to decide on here, but i already dont hold on prisoners when i try something on PR anyway, but also give high praise if im pleasently suprised by something, so i have other avenues to ensure my voice is heard anyway if im not happy sometimes, unfortunatley thats only pills though as we all well no

you no people will get bored and this thread will disappear pretty quick more than likely to the bottom of the list, if it pops up from time to time so what? its not hurting anyone surely
 
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@nomy thanks for the post :)

I have to agree with Evad that even though this discussion is hived away in another thread, it's seriously irritating due to the constant propagation of blatant misinformation and perpetuation of myths. Some people are talking utter bollocks in this thread with the tone of authority and it should be made clear to readers that these are fringe views and don't represent the consensus at all. We take the piss out of the Americans for the misinformation on their board but reading some of the shit on this thread makes us look much, much worse than them.

Perhaps a poll would be advised so we can put this to the test.

@dee_dee you wrote off the BBC article about the placebo effect, but you just can't. Clearly peoples expectations of drugs massively change their effects. That's a scientific fact. This fact alone closes the argument because it accounts for the qualitative changes in effects. When you say you can feel the differences in synths, you are just talking bollocks mate. It's insulting. It doesn't do your credibility any good at all. I don't care if WvW said it on pillreports, he is talking bollocks as well. Some of the posts you have written make me wonder why your judgement is so clouded, and your views so deluded. I don't mean this in an insulting way at all but are you very mildly autistic?
 
you can prove anything with facts mate, don't trust em myself
 
this is your board evad at the end of the day, why dont you take the thread down then, you might as well, people dont want it here so just remove it, im suprised it popped up again in the first place tbh, for a peaceful life take it down, every single pill and crystal out there apprently is marvellous, it must be some of these people.

just leave it at that, i no i would

nite for now anyway
 
ecsplosiv said:
I have to agree with Evad that even though this discussion is hived away in another thread, it's seriously irritating due to the constant propagation of blatant misinformation and perpetuation of myths.
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What isn't a myth is that clubs in the UK today look nothing like the clubs of 10 years ago. Dee_Dee knows this, and so do I. I don't see any of the ecstasy stereotypes anymore (I can't be arsed listing them all again for the 100th time - search through my recent posts and you'll see them).

It seems to me there are a lot of people in EADD who are determined to beleive that all the drugs they buy are premium quality, regardless of what me or anyone else says. It's as though their only source of pride in life is that they buy good-quality drugs.

I have to be honest - I don't buy any of this talk about different synthing methods. I think most of the 'MDMA' in this country (whether it's in pill or crystal form) is either not MDMA at all, or contains deliberately-added adulterants.
 
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