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Regional Pill/MDMA Discussion: this thread is to discuss current UK/Euro pills only

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drinking is bad cambo with MD-- takes from the high.

Gear(if you can find it) and valiums by contrats is good for the comedown. Makes the transition smooth if you smoke some before returning to baseline and wraps you in a warm euphoric blanket. Its like playing with fire though- before you know it you have a habit and the tueday blues turn into the heroin flues. So be advised-it sneaks up on you ever so insidiously.

From a harm reduction standpoint hyperthemia can be a problem so drinking adequate amounts (1-2 L) fluid is good, but overhydration and reulting hyponatremia and other problems are also a problem because drinking to much fluid and not diuresisng enough dilutes the sodium in your blood- people have experienced complications from this too so don't drink gallons and gallons and when dancing take frquent rests. I think dancesafe has more harm reduction info on this topic.

Also studies were done that found that taking an SSRI before basline might prevent the alleged 5-HT neurotoxicity. Avoid using MDs with SSRI or any other antidpressant that increases the availability of seratonin because you could precipitate a seratonin syndrome. Theoretically with ssri you might not feel the whole high, instead of getting seratonin syndrome because it ties up the seratonin transporter MDs need, but seratonin syndrome is a bad, bad thing- an emergency situ, and if your on a drug like prozac, there is a long half life so missing one dose might mot be enough to prevent this.
 
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As far as the MDMA not being around anymore- or pills tested good not delivering like the old days, I met a pharmacist once that was involved in a research study. He was trying to determin why brands of the same medication or generics from certain manufacturers had different efficacies in different patients. You have the same molecule, right, so it shouldn't make a difference, but the phenomena occured enough times to warrant conducting a study. Methadone patients had been saying for years the diskettes were superior to the hethadose juice- they we find this out when hospitalized they would catch a nod on their accostomed dose.

Anyway, his theory was differences in the production processes or molecular "fingerprints or quirks" his term might explain this rather than the innert constitutents. Remember molecules are composed of atoms and atoms composed of subatomic particles. Wonder if the study was concluded and what were the results.

Also aside from set and setting, of course, prior exposure to the drug, intermediates in the reaction and reactants not purified out might be effecting the subjective high. Usually illicitly made substances, firstly have a theoretical yield that is far from whats reached in a uni lab, and the cooks might not bother recrystalizing/washing and analyzing their compound using mass spec , nMR, or x-ray crystallgraphy which would give a better picture, so consider that angle.

This is all theoretical but I'm sure few are following Shulgins recipe or have the technical expertise to do it right. The ones who can may be languishing in her Dutch Royal Majesty's prison. I've been around the scene a while. Did my first pill gotten allegdly from berkley CA (obtained at a dead show in Oakland were the hippie new the chemist, left with my money, AND CAME BACK. I have had E that had the magic- soul cleansing euphoria, empathy with everyone. The best E I got were white tabs coincidentally at my first rave in 91'. In the ensuing years I got ahold of all kinds of E from pills that would floor you 93-94 to stuff that would make your bones chilled and antisocial. Once I took E that I was sure was bunk but didn't kick in for 2 hours- decided to go asleep and saw eyes closed imagery. My last hit was NYE 96'. In 94 at a big event they were selling legal nexus (2-CB) at a "smart shop". Took acid instead- deelight was headlining. Still kicking myself for missing out on this opportunity as I new about 2-CB from PIKHAL. This was right before the outlawed it.

So the answer is enigmatic to me.
 
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Think the rule is no more than 1 pint an hour.


Same with water.

You do not want to be flooding your body with too much fluid. The more ecstasy you do it will become increasing hard to urinate. Sometimes to the point where its near impossible. The last thing you want is pints and pints of beer sat in your system. Potentially very dangerous. Be carefull.
 
White loveheart - Dublin

The same as this ...

http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=25061#comments

I was given one of these last night as a sample from a very reliable source. Matches the description perfectly. I'll be road testing this one tonight and will follow up with a report. I've been told these may be replacing the blue diamonds which have been everywhere the last few months ...

Anyone else come across or tried these in Ireland.
 
I got a txt there about yellow harps i laughed, how are these shit pills still goin around since oxegen last year
 
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Hey guys has anyone come across this MD^. New batch from my dealer, tested up fine with Marquis and Simons. Heard dodgy things about grey batches from BL, but this is definately not the same batch from the start of the summer. There are brilliant white see-through bits of cut glass type crystals in there too as can be seen in the first picture. In the second picture I crushed that crystal so you can see the colour difference. In the third I crushed a bit of the grey stuff and you can see it goes white. This suff is also absolutely odourless. Also a good reference to show different coloured crystal really does change colour if you crush it a bit!

EDIT: sorry I realise the bottom two pics are the same, but you get the idea.
 
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Hey guys has anyone come across this MD^. New batch from my dealer, tested up fine with Marquis and Simons. Heard dodgy things about grey batches from BL, but this is definately not the same batch from the start of the summer. There are brilliant white see-through bits of cut glass type crystals in there too as can be seen in the first picture. In the second picture I crushed that crystal so you can see the colour difference. In the third I crushed a bit of the grey stuff and you can see it goes white. This suff is also absolutely odourless. Also a good reference to show different coloured crystal really does change colour if you crush it a bit!

EDIT: sorry I realise the bottom two pics are the same, but you get the idea.

Looks like the grey stuff I've had on several occasions last year. Defo MD and defo does the job :D
 
Alcohol and md in Ireland = the norm..In fact all drugs =+ alcohol in Ireland.
I blame the potato famine there was no potatoes to make potato vodka.
 
I drink most times I'm on MDMA, I don't get drunk, I just have a few beers to 'loosen up' and it kills the time while coming up. I don't think it hinders the effects in anyway whatsoever, if anything it adds to it.
 
The same as this ...

http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=25061#comments

I was given one of these last night as a sample from a very reliable source. Matches the description perfectly. I'll be road testing this one tonight and will follow up with a report. I've been told these may be replacing the blue diamonds which have been everywhere the last few months ...

Anyone else come across or tried these in Ireland.

Have had access to these for months, there good beans, not super strong
 
Goin to cork for st paddys, does anyone know the avalability of decent beans there?
 
drinking is bad cambo with MD-- takes from the high.

Gear(if you can find it) and valiums by contrats is good for the comedown.

jspun as much I enjoy reading you're posts, recommending gear for an mdma comedown, even though stating that it is not a good idea, in this thread, is not the best advice imo.
 
I drink most times I'm on MDMA, I don't get drunk, I just have a few beers to 'loosen up' and it kills the time while coming up. I don't think it hinders the effects in anyway whatsoever, if anything it adds to it.
This is it. Drinking helps me slip into the groove nicely when I'm on pills, and takes away from any edginess I might experience on the comeup. I don't quite get the same warm, safe-in-a-cosy-bubble feeling if I don't have a few beers in me.

I've been a good boy and stayed off the bangers the last two months , but Villalabos, Luciano and Carl Craig will put paid to that in Mad March.

Fuck, just realised they're within 5 says of each other...sleep paralysis, here we come again.
 
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@pace2009. will be at 1 of them gigs myself.being a good boy to=not had any yokes since feb 11th lol.
i belive your going to LIFE festival in may,should be a cracking weekend.

back on topic there are BLUE-PURPLE-PINK DIAMONDS.
PINK DOVES-
WHITE LOVE HEARTS.
WHITE IRON CROSSES
WHITE SOVIET STARS.
all the above are mdxx pills that are about.
 
i got some Q dances from the same guy but at different times and i got what looks like two different batches. has anyone come accros or tried any of these two and is there much difference.


as you can see the one on the right is lighter in colour and has slight speckles on it. the one on the left is darker and more smoother. both pills have outpressed logos.

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from this angle you can see that the lighter one is ever so slightly thicker

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from what i heard some are saying the darker one is slightly stronger but both are very strong. has anyone tried both? %)
 
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