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buying codeine in aus?

Well I have never been asked for ID for codine 15's and I've bought thousands of em in NSW, Vic and Qld. Rural chemists seem easier than big city ones or ones in major shopping malls though.

maybe it's an age thing, I'm in my 40's, well spoken, dress smartly and always have a good reason to ask for them, ie, toothache, migrain, back pain.

It's got a lot to do with the image you present to the chemist at the moment I think.
 
that can help quite alot true.
when i mention i have restless leg syndrome and go through the medications i've tried, they pretty much let me have it every couple of days if i need it.
 
Well I have never been asked for ID for codine 15's and I've bought thousands of em in NSW, Vic and Qld. Rural chemists seem easier than big city ones or ones in major shopping malls though.
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Did you have to give a name and/or address in QLD? That is the rule for S3 drugs there.

You are right about the age thing, the older you are the more likely it is you can get whatever you want. Wait until you are 60 or older and you can go in and buy codeine/paracetamol, rikodeine, promethazine and hell maybe even some pseudoephedrine with no questions asked. ;)
 
Hello, what do you ask for?? the brand names? (or cant give out that information on here?) "I have a toothache...I need codeine"???
(i am in NSW)
I would love to get my hands on some opiate pills.. any form of opiate. So that i can taper... get off this poppy seed tea. 2kgs of seeds every second day is way too expensive. Any other opiate would help with withdrawals i'm sure. perhaps codeine would be a cheaper option? ..... tapering?
 
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I've been using codeine a long time & they never ask for ID.
Chemist's Own pain killers 40 pack are dissolve the second they touch water 500/10
otherwise 24 pack of xtra strngth panadeine 500/15
panadeine forte are also good for ccwe they dissolve easily
dont use nurophen+ ibuprofen doesnt dissolve as well as paracetamol

if they ask for id say u dont have ya wallet atm. & say u only got the cash. & go somewhere else there's pharmacies everywhere.

man ive never been asked for id. ust dont wlk in acten like a drug user.
 
Spinfish said:
Hello, what do you ask for?? the brand names? (or cant give out that information on here?) "I have a toothache...I need codeine"???
(i am in NSW)
I would love to get my hands on some opiate pills.. any form of opiate. So that i can taper... get off this poppy seed tea. 2kgs of seeds every second day is way too expensive. Any other opiate would help with withdrawals i'm sure. perhaps codeine would be a cheaper option? ..... tapering?
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^ We can't really discuss the details on purchasing these products as that'd be a breach of the guidelines. In general the OTC codeine products are either a combination of codeine and paracetamol (e.g. panadeine) or codeine and ibuprofen (e.g. nurofen plus). Of course there are dozens of different brands of each and the generics are often considerably cheaper. If you're using the codeine recreationally avoid any products with additional ingredients (like caffeine, aspirin or doxylamine).

2kgs of seeds / 2 days? Sounds like time for a break from opiates hey? I don't know if codeine would work out cheaper if you're buying seeds in bulk (and they're still working?). Codeine products are far more expensive now than they were before they were re-scheduled last March.
 
^^ Thanks Belarki. I will ask about them...and check prices. I wonder how many pills it will take to equal the buzz, or at least cancel out the w/drawals I get from the seeds and if it will be worth it.

Also, is ibruprofen less harmful for the liver than paracetamol?
 
^ neither are good for you in large doses. If you're taking codeine recreationally you NEED to do a cold water extraction. Paracetamol is more likely to kill you in the shorter term due to acute liver damage but ibuprofen isn't exactly great for your liver or kidneys either and can cause stomach ulcers.
 
^ Thankyou. Yes, I learned the hard way many moons ago about the dangers of too much paracetamol.
I was out of the country for a long time and when I came back I was surprised to see they had only just removed codeine products from supermarket shelves.... So now what, you can get the same products OTC at the chemist just they are more expensive and you need a good reason/ show ID?
 
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^ yes, and only sold in smaller packets. Without going into too many details you used to be able to buy 96 packets of codeine/ibu for what some chemists charge for 30 packets now. Panadeine forte (and stronger opiates) still require scripts though.
 
just ask at the chemist for panadine extras, they have 15mg of codine (so half what you you get on prescription panadine fortes), tell them its for toothache you will have no problem.
 
To be fair to all the pharmacies, the prices they charge are based on what they purchase the products from the suppliers for. Once the new laws came in, the suppliers put up their prices to cover the losses.

Regarding ibuprofen and paracetamol toxicity: paracetamol is generally more toxic then ibuprofen. Long term use of ibuprofen though, or any other NSAID, can cause stomach ulcers, kidney problems and eventually liver damage.
 
Mr Blonde said:
Wait until you are 60 or older and you can go in and buy codeine/paracetamol, rikodeine, promethazine and hell maybe even some pseudoephedrine with no questions asked. ;)
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you can get 60mg pseudo's in nsw, you do have to show a license but you get a 20 pack, i just tell them that I am on prescription panadine fortes and my gp has advised me not to mix normal codral or cold/ sinus medicine with it as it adds too much paracetamol to the mix, the brand name is chemists own sinus and nasal relief., just dont buy then every day and you wont have any probs, I dunno about codine in qld these days as its been a couple years since i bought any in qld.
 
Spinfish, I am not sure if ibuprofen is particularly harmful to the liver but it is certainly harmful to the stomach and kidneys, paracetamol is very harmful to the liver in high doses. There was a good period where I predminantly used ibuprofen containing pills to perform CWE because it is slightly less harmful in high doses than paracetamol, and also because it was generally a tad more cost effective and ibu pills generalyl contain a little more codeine.

When I was using CWE heaviest, probably 3 or 4 nights a week, I was using ibuprofen formulations almost exclusively and I definately noticed stomach problems in particular acid reflux, which I have never suffered from with any degree of frequency before or since. I tend to find that I can get a pretty clear solution from para pills after a shirt squeeze and running it through a coffee filter, 2 at the most. Ibu pills on the other hand, it seems no matter how many times I run it through coffee filters (I have as many as 5 or 6 before) the solution is always cloudy.

Also, if I recall correctly, most of the health problems cited by codeine abusers which lead to the tightening of restrictions on codeine containing products were symptoms of ibuprofen overuse, gastric ulcers for example. Granted most of these users were uneducated and popping the pills rather than performing extractions, but it still certainly illustrates that overuse of ibuprofen can be quite dangerous.

I would be very interested to hear your thoughts on CWE compares to poppy seed tea, I have been curious in PST for years but never got off my arse and tried it. If someone were to tell me it was better or more cost effective than CWE it may just motivate me to experiment.
 
seems alot more people use codeine recreationally than i first thought..

does anyone know know what the deal with purchasing panadine extras in WA? OTC?
 
pisspotnrock said:
seems alot more people use codeine recreationally than i first thought..

does anyone know know what the deal with purchasing panadine extras in WA? OTC?
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Codeine used to be the topic of half the posts here at one stage, till the mods decided it was getting a bit much and reined it in a bit. I'm surprised how many people I've met in the last year or two who've been aware of it's recreational potential, although that might also be the result of moving in different circles.
 
^ That sucks. :(

you can get 60mg pseudo's in nsw, you do have to show a license but you get a 20 pack, i just tell them that I am on prescription panadine fortes and my gp has advised me not to mix normal codral or cold/ sinus medicine with it as it adds too much paracetamol to the mix, the brand name is chemists own sinus and nasal relief., just dont buy then every day and you wont have any probs, I dunno about codine in qld these days as its been a couple years since i bought any in qld.
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In QLD, and many pharmacies that use Project Stop (almost all now I think), you'd be lucky to get it twice a month. Some places won't even do that, but if the pharmacist thinks you are legitimately sick they sometimes will use their discretion to supply it more then once a month.
 
Headdah that sucks ass, I have had some minor spills on the odd occassion but never more than like 10% of it. I honestly don't know what I would do if I spilled the majority or a whole CWE, probably cry!

I see a few people reccomending panadeine extra, these are quite a bit more costly than the tablets I usually use but as I said earlier in the thread I have found panadeine fortes to work better than OTC tablets, so I am wondering if perhaps panadeine extra work slightly better as well. Anyone find that the same mg dose of panadeine extra CWE works better than if they had used panadeine?

Crankinit I have to agree that I have noticed a massive surge in codeines popularity in the last 1-2 years. Honestly I think the single biggest factor in making your average punter aware codeine was really abusable was the restrictions on them, as soon as something gets restricted or tightened people assume it must be good. It is the same sort of mindset as 12 year olds seeing which aerosol cans say "misuse by concentrating and inhaling these products may be harmful or fatal" or digging through the medicine cabinet to find tablets that warn they cause drowsiness.

I am sure many people who are now abusing codeine thought it was nothing more than a tablet that helped a headache before May 1st last year.
 
drug_mentor said:
Headdah that sucks ass, I have had some minor spills on the odd occassion but never more than like 10% of it. I honestly don't know what I would do if I spilled the majority or a whole CWE, probably cry!

I see a few people reccomending panadeine extra, these are quite a bit more costly than the tablets I usually use but as I said earlier in the thread I have found panadeine fortes to work better than OTC tablets, so I am wondering if perhaps panadeine extra work slightly better as well. Anyone find that the same mg dose of panadeine extra CWE works better than if they had used panadeine?

Crankinit I have to agree that I have noticed a massive surge in codeines popularity in the last 1-2 years. Honestly I think the single biggest factor in making your average punter aware codeine was really abusable was the restrictions on them, as soon as something gets restricted or tightened people assume it must be good. It is the same sort of mindset as 12 year olds seeing which aerosol cans say "misuse by concentrating and inhaling these products may be harmful or fatal" or digging through the medicine cabinet to find tablets that warn they cause drowsiness.

I am sure many people who are now abusing codeine thought it was nothing more than a tablet that helped a headache before May 1st last year.
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that pretty much sums it up for me... lol

the reason i asked about panadeine extra because i read that it contains 15mg of codeine but didnt the new laws say that anything in AUS containing over 12?mg had to be prescribed?

oh, and has it ever occurred to anyone that the new laws might have something to do with the constant talk/questions about all these OTC codeine products over internet forums such as BL ;) (knowing authorities have been watching sites like this for year)
 
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