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Benzos Kpin usage effects?

Issac Sinclair

Issac Sinclair

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I'm taking .5 Kpins daily. How do I know if they give me tolerance?

Last time I took them for 3 days straight and started forgetting how to say words. What happens if you take them everyday? You gain tolerance, lose memory, as well as having a higher affinity for cancer. I don't know if I'm missing something else.

Its cool sleeping whenever and not being scared, but it kinda sucks cause I forget shit and my sleep quality is shitty. The half life of them is also extremely long. How does that tie into tolerance?
 
Well, you build a tolerance if you take them daily or for extended periods of time. They certainly do have an effect on memory, they helped me sleep very nicely, but I wasn't one them very long at all until I switched to Xanax, which is similar, but much shorter acting.
 
I have Xanax as needed, but I never take it since I never really need it, its a bit too strong for me. I know some people take them for extended amounts of time. I have no idea what to do at this point. I'm not that anxious, but it really works well with my Adderall.
 
K pins should give you a good sleep and nice dreams. After enough experience you can maintain and not act fucked up on them. However if your not anxious I wouldn't take them. Don't use them with your adderal unless your oding.

Just take one on a bad day, when you need it. If you need them for a week take them. Its not that complicated, and you won't get addicted until a month and then just barely. At small doses.
 
hydrochron said:
K pins should give you a good sleep and nice dreams. After enough experience you can maintain and not act fucked up on them. However if your not anxious I wouldn't take them. Don't use them with your adderal unless your oding.
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Dont take them with your adderal unless your oding? He is obviously to me getting all three of the drugs from a dr, most likely a psychiatrist. You should clarify if you are joking or serious. I for one am on the maximum daily dose of valium(40mgs) and taking 60mgs of adderal a day. BOTH given to me by the same doctor. You will not overdose from a benzo and an upper. You are much much more likely to overdose from mixing two uppers, or mixing two downers. Like how most all overdoses are a mix of xanax and an opiate like oxycodone. Taking a depressant with a stimulant can be very bad for people that have a bad heart, or an underlying heart condition. Otherwise it is perfectly safe
 
Thank you. They give me sleep, but not quality sleep. I'm never fucked up on them, and I'm not fucked up on Xanax either, I never cared to use them to get high.

How does the long half life tie into tolerance? Alice, Valium are supposed to remain in your body for up to 200 hours. Does that mean that tolerance builds up faster? Today I forgot my first word, and its the third day. Allegory. Forgot to say Allegory of the Cave, knew it started with an A. :( Does your memory get worst do you 'adapt' or does it just stay around the same?
 
I am not sure if longer half lives tie into tolerance, I do know that the shorter the half life it seems it can give you a higher tolerance. Since taking xanax for anxiety most people start with 3 .5mgs a day, and since it does't last that long you find yourself needing more and more to get the same relief and trying to keep a steady level in your system. so maybe the opposite is true too? That with a longer half-life you can have a slower rise to tolerance because you can keep a high level in your system without actually having to dose as frequently.

And if you haven't tried valium try it. I didn't react well to clonazepam, and xanax was a little too strong for me(memory effects wise) and valium works perfect for anxiety and sleep. but everyone is different
 
I heard Valium feels similar to Temazapam, a bit drunken, and a very calm feeling in your body. Klonopin I believe is nonaddictive just because I can't feel it unless I do something very anxiety producing. What was your profile on Klonopin, and is Valium longer lasting, or similar?
 
they are all equally addictive just klonapin is much mellower of a feeling for most so your not high but def still physically addicted as in you will go thru withdraws, valiums worked faster for me, klonapin never really helped me sleep but i was would have balance issues the next day.
 
I think you got confused. I was saying there's nothing wrong with it, but its not a good habbit to get into. This is a harm reduction site, and at his doses he's got along ways to go before hes addicted. When it comes to being addictive, alprazolam tends to be the most because of its effects and short half life. However they are all addictive with valium being the easiest to get off of, and the best thing to use to quit. The effects of klonopin are a hit or a miss imo. Valium is smoother, but won't put you to sleep the same way as klonopin.
 
I dont get clonazepam at all. Mind you I'm not prescribed them.

I had a bunch given to me recently.

Last night I swallowed 20 x 0.5mg pills combined with half a bottle of vodka and felt not much more than drunk. Yes It was a different drunk than usual. They cause memory short term loss and reduced coordination of simple fine motor skills.

I'll keep some for a rainy day as a sleep aid.

Other than that, I found them to have almost no recreational qualities at all.
 
Ah yes, I don't feel much off them either. They are very 'weak feeling' and are really the best for anxiety as far as a benzo goes in my opinion. I would never try to get high off them, they aren't fun. The memory problem keeps me away from them as well.
 
Issac Sinclair said:
I heard Valium feels similar to Temazapam, a bit drunken, and a very calm feeling in your body. Klonopin I believe is nonaddictive just because I can't feel it unless I do something very anxiety producing. What was your profile on Klonopin, and is Valium longer lasting, or similar?
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Clonazepam is not non-addictive, this is the kind of nonsense that the pill pushing pharmaceutical representatives will lie about to doctors, and then who ends up suffering? The patients who end up physically addicted to clonazepam because they thought they could trust their doctor when they were informed a medication was "not addictive", when it was actually a complete fabrication of reality.

Alice_D said:
And if you haven't tried valium try it. I didn't react well to clonazepam, and xanax was a little too strong for me(memory effects wise) and valium works perfect for anxiety and sleep. but everyone is different
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I had paradoxical reactions to clonazepam - it ended up making me feel more depressed and more anxious than I already was. No other benzos did this to me, at least that I have tried thus far.

This is not an uncommon experience, though not the most common one. I have heard of several other people over the internet, and in real life, who had serious negative aversions to taking clonazepam due to the negative side effects.
 
Benzos are simply a bad way to go. No, the side effects are not worth whatever benefit they might give you. Some people are affected by sfx worse than others and some people develop tolerance and its concurrent addiction very rapidly and not having the so-called "addictive personality" will not help you avoid this unfortunate outcome. The tolerance and addiction happens in your nerve cells and WD's can be a wild and broad collection of agonizing symptoms that can last for a long time.
As for half-life, I do believe that longer acting benzos lead to tolerance and addiction better than short acting. The longer, but not necessarily more benzo is in your system, the more the body reacts by enacting downregulation and uncoupling of GABA receptors while upregulating Glutamate receptors it seems.
Try a neurontin or lyrica if you must use a pharm or give things like theanine and deep breathing a try.
 
YES captain, I also had that, which was why I decided to switch to valium, I was taking 1mg x 4 a day of the kpins and eventually it made me very suicidally depressed and so on top of no real good effects I got horrible side effects. I have heard that with paradoxical effects mostly happen with clonazepam and then not as bad with xanax but still the reverse effects of aggression
 
I have also had paradoxical effects from clonazepam but only with high doses. I am using it 0-2mg per day, thou I am prescribed to take one 2mg pill 1-3 times a day, if needed. I haven’t developed significant tolerance this far, which I mean that I haven’t had an urge to up my dosage (been using 4 months almost daily, before that occasionally for years). My personal experiences with clonazepam are that less is better when I feel anxious. For me it’s somehow far more sedating in low doses. I have tried many benzos but for me clonazepam has the best medicinal properties (panic, anxiety and pain relief).

I have several friends who have ruined their life while using high doses of clonazepam. That’s one reason why I am keeping my dosage as small as possible. Physical exercise is my key in keeping my dose under 2 mg.
 
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Benzos are simply a bad way to go. No, the side effects are not worth whatever benefit they might give you. Some people are affected by sfx worse than others and some people develop tolerance and its concurrent addiction very rapidly and not having the so-called "addictive personality" will not help you avoid this unfortunate outcome. The tolerance and addiction happens in your nerve cells and WD's can be a wild and broad collection of agonizing symptoms that can last for a long time.
As for half-life, I do believe that longer acting benzos lead to tolerance and addiction better than short acting. The longer, but not necessarily more benzo is in your system, the more the body reacts by enacting downregulation and uncoupling of GABA receptors while upregulating Glutamate receptors it seems.
Try a neurontin or lyrica if you must use a pharm or give things like theanine and deep breathing a try.
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Not everyone who tries benzos goes onto develop a benzo dependency though, this is crucial to remember.

They are also very therapeutic and effective for people who don't need them but once a month, or maybe once a week, twice a week at the most in general (shorter acting ones can be taken more often but you don't want to get into daily use no matter which one you are using, unless it is absolutely necessary to function in life).

Also, you can do quite a lot of one benzodiazepine in one day, and not actually build up your tolerance, as long as you weren't regularly using it before or afterwards.
 
I had a great loss of memory using it and also a lot of sleep days after using it a few times. I am going to avoid using them as much as possible, a daily regime is not possible for me, nor is it necessary.
 
You gain tolerance, lose memory, as well as having a higher affinity for cancer. I don't know if I'm missing something else.
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Is that true? I've never heard anything about benzos being connected to cancer. Anyone have any more information about the validity of this or some sources or anything? Thanks.
 
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