How come it seems like every mod here has a stick up their ass?

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sveets

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I can only really speak for OD actually since thats where I mostly hangout and do my posting, but it seems like the mods are just acting like Nazis. They close threads even if they fit into the rules and regulations of the forum. And I got an infraction for "abusing the PM system" when all I did was send one message to a mod after he closed my thread. I don't have get in depth with examples, I think anyone who has hung out in OD for a while has noticed.

Its become annoying and tiresome to even attempt to invoke a discussion about drugs on a forum meant for the discussion about drugs because the mods just close them. This site used to be awesome and its slowly turning to shit everytime I log on.
 
sveets said:
I can only really speak for OD actually since thats where I mostly hangout and do my posting, but it seems like the mods are just acting like Nazis. They close threads even if they fit into the rules and regulations of the forum. And I got an infraction for "abusing the PM system" when all I did was send one message to a mod after he closed my thread. I don't have get in depth with examples, I think anyone who has hung out in OD for a while has noticed.

Its become annoying and tiresome to even attempt to invoke a discussion about drugs on a forum meant for the discussion about drugs because the mods just close them. This site used to be awesome and its slowly turning to shit everytime I log on.
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I think you'll find that people would be a lot more responsive to your posts and threads if they weren't petty, negative, futile, and aggressive.
The mods here do a f*cking stellar job, and considering it's a volunteer position, it's no wonder they get tired of the mediocre and banal posts of the perpetual whinger. Jesus if I had to sift through the average thread day in day out, i'd end up closing 90% of them.
I'm not saying everyone's perfect, but it aint gonna get you anywhere ripping into the mods of a forum.
what's the point?
Where's it gonna get you?
Everyone makes mistakes, everyone makes the odd stupid post, and everyone has cranky days, even mods, but it aint gonna make them more responsive if you make a thread directly attacking them!

Why not have a mod appreciation thread?
Yay for the mods!
Keep it up!!!!

DJ
 
I trolled a mod with my very first thread on this forum, a few days ago, telling him I injected an opioid for elephants and rhino's. He didn't even ban me when I admitted trolling. I'd say that's anything BUT "having a stick up their ass". He even legitimately seemed worried until he found out it was a troll.
 
Given the chronology here, I can only assume this is about me and since I am a fan of transparency in moderating, I'll go ahead and post what you sent me and my response.

If this makes me a nazi, I am ok with that....

Cane2theLeft said:
sveets said:
Hey you closed my thead : http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=554567
on the basis that it was a "trip report" and had nothing to do with harm-reduction. Well, yes it did contain somewhat of a trip report but the main focus of the thread was to invoke a discussion on the effectivness of smoking oxy and the misconception (in my opinion) that it is a complete waste. I know that almost everyone will disagree with me because that is just what people have been brain-washed to believe through the internet. One person says something, a couple people agree, and all of a sudden its considered a fact.

According to the OD rules of posting :

Other Drugs (OD) is designed for discussion of the queries regarding other drugs (ie not psychadelics or MDMA) not covered by the following two forums:

Basic Drug Discussion (BDD): as the name suggests, basic drug Qs. The next post will soon cover examples of material suited for BDD
Advanced Drug Discussion (ADD): chemistry-related and more science based course, discussion of novel compounds etc etc


"designed for the discussion of the queries regarding other drugs" ie. Oxycodone. There is no where else where I can create a topic for the discussion of this drug.

It seems to me like Mods (not single-ing you out) are just closing threads for the sake of closing threads. This is an internet forum meant for harm reduction but also discussion on various drugs, ROAs, BA%s, etc... Bluelight is going downhill from when I joined a couple years ago. I don't even understand what kinds of threads are valid to post anymore and it's a shame because this used to be my go-to site for information you couldn't find anywhere else on the internet.

If you read this, thanks for your time and maybe it will actually spark some discussion on the direction in which BL is headed.
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Thank you for explaining the purpose of the forum I moderate, I was completely unaware! ;)

Just because something doesn't violate a specific guideline, doesn't mean it will stay open. If a topic has been covered again and again and the discussion only devolves into people calling each other names and no factual, harm reduction-based discussion occurring, why should those threads stay open?

The forum has changed a lot in the last few years from a drug forum that had a little harm reduction information to a HARM REDUCTION forum first and foremost and this is the most basic criteria now. Many people are unhappy about the transition because they want to chat about drugs but there are other places for that... BDD, DC and beyond BL you have forums such as drugs-forum and opiophile.

OD's traffic has grown exponentially since the standards have been raised and tightened and I don't think that's merely coincidence.

This topic has been addressed a lot and unless you show that you're bringing something different to the discussion and not just sharing your experience, I don't see a reason to reopen it.

Do you have studies on the subject? BA numbers? Case reports of people who smoked pharmaceuticals long term?

If so, please share. If not, I don't see why we need a 12th thread that just devolves into 3 pages of unsubstantiated posts where people are either saying "you're an idiot its a waste" or "Oh man, I get so high doing this".

Do you see where I'm coming from? I'm certainly open to further discuss this if you think I'm missing something or you feel it has value to the forum that I'm overlooking.

Thank you for respectfully PMing me to discuss this!

-Brad
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Normally, I'd close this, but I don't wish for it to appear we're giving C2L the last word and no room for a response from the OP. So, I'll leave this open a bit longer.


Whilst we wait, I'll offer two trains of thought.

1 - It is a requirement that when we select new mods, we pick whomever posts the most in the forum, regardless of their level of maturity, since we know they'll be all over everyone's shit. Then, we hand them a mod stick, typically a rather small one, so they don't shoot their eye out....plus we save the big ones for Sr. Staff so we can still have a bit of fun abusing the members. The odd part is that each new mod is required to keep their mod stick completely up their ass at all times, unless it's used for beating the shit out of nuisance members...or for personal amusement. This is what we call "Shit Slinging", considering where they keep their sticks. I'll say again, Sr. Staff get bigger sticks....we can hold them better.

2 - We have a system in place, noted in both our Greenlighter Guide and in SUPPORT which outlines how to address grievances. Rather than bore you by quoting or paraphrasing, I'll move along knowing you've read those, and this outburst is just a matter of venting on your part, perhaps with no real need to file a complaint (otherwise you'd have followed our how-to info on it).

One last thing I'll share - this isn't new. We're in the process of pruning a lot of older, less useful threads from many of the forums, but having been here for 10+ yrs, I assure you this is not the first time mods have been accused of being nazis (which is odd, given how many are non-european, and in fact some are even Jewish I think - go figure). It happens to mods in many forums, not the least of which is OD where they have to field a wide and deep range of topics in a way that allows maximum possible discussion whilst remaining in the safe confines of forum guidelines or site rules. They screw up sometimes, but that's why we have the avenue of complaint and recourse ;) but I said I wouldn't get back into that since we all read it already. Anywho, this isn't new - before you leave, you'll see it again. Maybe not in OD, but you'll see it repeated in various forums over time. You'll wonder why the mods are so lax now, or so much more uptight at another time, and all the while, people keep joining and fitting in. Funny how that works.
 
TheLoveBandit said:
I assure you this is not the first time mods have been accused of being nazis (which is odd, given how many are non-european, and in fact some are even Jewish I think - go figure).
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HEY hey hey read my posts man!

If this makes me a nazi, I am ok with that....
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And you cane2theleft!

I was the one defending you guys!

The mods here do a f*cking stellar job, and considering it's a volunteer position, it's no wonder they get tired of the mediocre and banal posts of the perpetual whinger......
Everyone makes mistakes, everyone makes the odd stupid post, and everyone has cranky days, even mods, but it aint gonna make them more responsive if you make a thread directly attacking them!

Why not have a mod appreciation thread?
Yay for the mods!
Keep it up!!!!

DJ
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And then I went on to make, what is quite clearly a joke, though not particularly funny I admit, when I said.

Anyway I'd put up with 1000 Nazi racist neckropheliac Mods if it meant that I'd eventually run into ones like n3ophy7e
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N3ophy7e has to be about the safest mod on the net, she is fucking kick ass.
I'm obviously not genuinely calling anyone a nazi, neckropheliac, or racist! Just highlighting what a fine member of BL she is.

just thought I'd clear that up, cause I do not want to be tagged as agreeing with the OP when I'm obviously here to do the opposite!!!
 
^you're cool, I didn't misconstrue your post.

n3ophy7e is seriously some kind of angel sent down from heaven to make BL a better place. Its literally impossible to overstate how amazing she is.

And thank you for the kind words, despite constant accusations of anal insertions and fascist affiliations, we do try to do our best.
 
Cane2theLeft said:
^you're cool, I didn't misconstrue your post.

n3ophy7e is seriously some kind of angel sent down from heaven to make BL a better place. Its literally impossible to overstate how amazing she is.

And thank you for the kind words, despite constant accusations of anal insertions and fascist affiliations, we do try to do our best.
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hahaha lol
hail mod rule!!
 
I think the mods on Bluelight are pretty cool. I've never had an infraction, despite all the stupid drugged-up posts I've made, and the odd times that I've completely de-railed a thread by getting into a fight with another member. :)
 
Sweet P said:
I think the mods on Bluelight are pretty cool. I've never had an infraction, despite all the stupid drugged-up posts I've made, and the odd times that I've completely de-railed a thread by getting into a fight with another member. :)
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I reckon they rox to. and gueswat? I never had an infraction fingy either.......go figure.


Note to TLB.........my stick is getting rather small due to............welll...........overuse. (Sort of like candles and nuns) oh oh oh that reminds me of a cool joke.............Blackout in a nunnery and one nun says to the other.........wheres the candle? The other nun says..........doesnt it. boom boom.

Anyways I could really do with a new stick to shove where the son dont shine cos well................. I aint been doing such a good job lately as a mod and I think its cos I needs a new stick.
 
TheLoveBandit said:
One last thing I'll share - this isn't new. We're in the process of pruning a lot of older, less useful threads from many of the forums, but having been here for 10+ yrs, I assure you this is not the first time mods have been accused of being nazis (which is odd, given how many are non-european, and in fact some are even Jewish I think - go figure).
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Ditto on being Jewish.

I think being a Moderator is what finally allowed me to develop a thick skin concerning the Holocaust.
 
i agree as far as OD goes. completly nazi with the thread closing mods dnt even let a thread develope at all to see if anything good or entertaining will come out of it. if you go and look at the "BEST OF BLUE LIGHT" IF SOMONE POSTED MOST OF THAT SHIT IN OD OR EVN WHERE THE SHIT WAS SOPPUSED TO BE POSTED TI GARUNTEE CAPTIAN HERION WOULD CLOSE THEM BEFORE THEY WERE EVER ABLE TO REACH THERE GREATNESS, NOTHING AGAINST U RLLY CAPT h I THINK UR VERY KNOWLEGABLE BUT A THREAD CLOSING NAZI ={
 
dielonnn said:
i agree as far as OD goes. completly nazi with the thread closing mods dnt even let a thread develope at all to see if anything good or entertaining will come out of it. if you go and look at the "BEST OF BLUE LIGHT" IF SOMONE POSTED MOST OF THAT SHIT IN OD OR EVN WHERE THE SHIT WAS SOPPUSED TO BE POSTED TI GARUNTEE CAPTIAN HERION WOULD CLOSE THEM BEFORE THEY WERE EVER ABLE TO REACH THERE GREATNESS, NOTHING AGAINST U RLLY CAPT h I THINK UR VERY KNOWLEGABLE BUT A THREAD CLOSING NAZI ={
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If I was a mod I'd ban anyone who types like this.

Actually no, as a Nazi mod I'd send all the bad typers (except my beloved drug_wench) to concentration camps and gas them.

Heil Administrator! ;)
 
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I don't have anything against the mods but I don't like all the threads being closed. Of course this is a harm reduction site not a chit chat area for drugs but work isn't the place for naps and I still like those too.

Regardless of whether or not anyone agrees I don't see opening a thread here is immature or unwarrantably attacking any mods. Clearly this would be "attacking" the some mods but that is due to them being tied to issue.

I do not much appreciate places which are so strict about their policies. I do not want this many threads closed, if nobody wanted to post in a bad thread then they would go down naturally without anyone locking it. When people get together through any medium there will be micro-governments. I would rather bluelight be much more laissez faire than communistic but there isn't much to do about it right? Voicing opinions will only ever work when the voice that is spewing an opinion coincides with the people in charge. The only valid options are to go somewhere else or to gain mod status yourself and go rogue as it were.

Goodluck OP, I agree with everything except your reference to Nazis but whatever.
 
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