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The Big & Dandy Ketamine Thread (Third Injection)

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guerillabedlam said:
To me the title of this thread reads like 'If I use crystal Meth sparingly is it bad for me?'
Trying to disassociate ketamine from its addictive properties is a very ignorant way of looking at it.
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a girl tried to have this argument with me. while she was blowing crystal on like a tuesday afternoon. i was like point set match ket>meth
 
JD42890 said:
a girl tried to have this argument with me. while she was blowing crystal on like a tuesday afternoon. i was like point set match ket>meth
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I was not blowing meth when I said that nor do I even use it anymore, unless we count MDMA.
 
Huh? Does anyone ever count MDMA as meth? I know, methylenedioxymethamphetamine, but seriously, WHO?
 
I had a non K-Hole dose (56 mg for 128 lb) in a dark room with music on and saw pretty much nothing although the music was very nice to listen to.

How much would I need to insufflate for a K-Hole dose? Erowid says 1 mg/lb but I wanted to ask some experienced people. Also I'm not going to shoot it, even if you recommend it, I don't like needles and don't know where to get them.
 
100mg holed me with no tolerance and I weighed around 12 stone at the time (14lb to the stone and I'm sure you can work that out). Varies a lot between individuals though. Couldn't hole for the longest time cos I hammered the shit outta the stuff but can now hole on 200-300mg nasal again at last. This is all pharm-grade ket so those figures go somewhat wonky if dealing with shonky "street" ket. Happy spelunking :)

PS: You never really "see" anything on ket. You either hole or wonk. Wonk is partyfuntime, holing is godly... but neither are really visual as such. Is kinda hard to explain... it's all very much in yer head is as best I could describe the "visuals". Not CEV and definitely not OEV. Not even visuals really. Hyperspace in Ketaworld is all :)
 
It has taken me 2 years of K use to finally break down and buy some needles (which are not difficult to find online). Any particular reason you are against injecting it intramuscularly? You might find that you change your mind, like I did. I was your age too when I first tried ket.
200mg should be sufficient.
 
I did kinda see/have the feeling of seeing myself breathing from very far away, but I wasn't a body just a shape. But it wasn't a vision more of a feeling kind of thing, very hard to describe.

I'm against IMing because of a dislike of needles and since I'm living with my rents and going to school (I'm 18) I don't want to have to cover anything up or explain it. Maybe when I'm living alone I'll try it out but not yet.

At the dose I did I don't really see how it could be partyfun, I could barely move.

I'll try 125 mg next time I do it (a few weeks at the least) and will report back at the time, spelunking I will go (I love that word).
 
Wow, me and Shammy actually disagree about something? 8(
I never thought I'd see the day to be honest.
ket is made for IMing no matter what your opinion of needles is.
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I'm fairly certain the original ketamine synthesis was intended for IV route, as this was the only way to determine proper BA compared to other known compounds. I could be mistaken of course but this seems entirely plausible to me.

I prefer nasal as one look at a needle makes me rigid with fear.
I had some deficiency tests done last week and it everything I could not to flip out in the nurses' room. I damn near ripped that fucking thing out of my myself when she turned her head, but I snapped back as I knew she would only scold me and likely insert a bigger needle to spite me....bitch :|

I will never IM, IV, Sub-Q, or inject a drug/medicine/compound. You would have to tie me down and force it into my arm.(Good luck with that btw as I don't submit easily ;)) At the end of said ordeal the medical staff would be much more injured than myself and I would likely have quite the lawsuit on my hands.
 
Perhaps I should clarify the "no visuals" thing... I agree with Polidelaiko that k-holes are certainly not empty voids, but I don't think of what I see there as being visuals in the same way that acid, mushroooms, 2C-x, etc produce visuals. "Classic" psychedelic visuals are just distortions and/or enhancements of what I would see normally - rippling, waviness, colours, patterns and so on. What I "see" in a k-hole state is a whole new reality - a fully-formed "other place" that is as real as anywhere I have ever physically visited. I don't see it as being visuals so much as my entire consciousness visiting other realms - holdidays in hyperspace, as it were - rather than standard vision with knobs on as with most psychedelic visuals.

D9: I didn't mean that ket was literally made for IM use - rather that it is the ROA best suited to use of it. I like sniffing it and I like IVing it - like it a lot in both cases - but IM is just special. It seems to fit so perfectly with the ketamine experience that, in my mind at least, it really is "made" to be IM'd.

Having said that, I actually find it easier to hole nasally at the moment - seems the IM dose needed to actually hole on has gotten so high I'd need to start using 5ml barrels cos even a fully saturated solution isn't enough when using my normal 2ml barrels. Bizarrely, I'm currently finding my nasal dose far more effective and much lower than via other ROA - even IV. Very odd...
 
Doctor_Ew420 said:
Well, I have noticed that ketamine is fairly corrosive (not as much as cocaine, but still somewhat)

It seems that every time I run out of K, my nose feels almost like it has its own cold for about a week, everything goes back to normal and then saturday I bought 7g from someone, the next morning my nose was bleeding, I only did 2 lines, and now today at work, my nose started bleeding again.

It is not good for the nose. It seems like no matter how long I give my nose to heal, it bleeds sooner and sooner into my next bag of K.

and I don't really wanna try injecting it, especially since it is street K not pharm grade. I don't have wheel filters.

Hope I helped.
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When I did k my first time I bought 1.5 grams and got little shards I crushed them up into fine powder than began insulphating till the bag was gone and my nose felt like I never put anything in thereto begin with. Am I just lucky or did you have impure chems ?
 
Pure ketamine is very easy on the nose, imo, imo, dmt, lsd, xtc, oobe, etc. Mmm... minty freshness <3

Does tend to bung you up to a quite uncomfortable degree sometimes though. All that saltiness sucking all the moisture outta your nasals, I presume. If you really want to experience the heights of messiness try snorting ket with a cold ;)
 
I'm not a fan of sniffing MDMA - more into plugging or injecting it if I'm not eating it - but I would say it's definitely somewhat harsher on the ol' shnozz than ket is. But still nothing too outrageous. Snorting certain 2Cs puts snorting just about anything else firmly in its relative place ;)
 
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