Opioids Need Help, Opiate w/d

[weedman615]

I know there are a lot of threads talking about this, but everyone's situation is different and i just want some advice so I can kick this. I don't know what I would actually call it but I like to say I have a "mild" opiate habit. I stop a lot but always end up doing it again. I have a slight tolerance; snort 60 mg opana; eat 2.5-3 OP 80s; snort 120 mg roxy; 240 mg MS Contin (Dont get fucked up, morphine doesnt do shit to me); eat 12 lortab tens (dont even get fucked up); etc,... and while doing all these smoking high quality and drinking quite a bit.

I go on binge's and realize I don't want to become severely addicted. When I stop I get some withdrawls including depression, lack of energy, muscle aches, but the worst of them all is restless legs and arms to where I can't go to sleep. That is my main problem with w/d's is the sleeping. I have RLS anyways so adding the absence of opiates just makes them terrible.

A few weeks ago I stopped taking stuff for about 7 days or so then I decided it would be okay to do just one opana 30 one night while partying and then not do them for a while again, not the case. I did opiates for about 12-15 days again. I then stopped the other day, was having withdrawl symtoms and late in my 3rd day i did an opana 30. Then today I did another 30 just because I was going to be alone all night and bored so figured tomorrow I'm stopping again and want to kick this for a llooonnnggg while, and only use once in a blue moon after that (which I know people will probably say not to do)

I am just looking for some advice, right now I have one xanax bar and 5 perc 5 mg's I got to decide to help and usually when I stop I just go cold turkey, besides eating ambien, drinking shit load Nyquil and all shit like that to try to pass out but it never really helps and i lay in bed tossing and turning for hours on end, taking hot showers and baths to stop the RLS which helps for about ten mins then its back.

Any advice would be awesome, and what the best idea would be in the use of the xanax bar and 5 percs. Thank you very much.

(Also the other day on day 2 of stopping I tried taking Imodium and Aleve which actually helped some)

 

[nfacion]

the only thing i have found to work for the RLS is neurotin plus it help with the anxiety but you have the xanax for that. Good luck

 

[suessmayr]

I remember getting RLS back in the day something hectic. I fronted up to a doctor; said I was making a concerted effort but couldn't hack the legs, I was going around the block at 4am and shit, driving me nuts. He gave me some valium which helped a bit. Probably you could use small small amounts of the percs to achieve some relief, but that's obviously tempting.

I've read online several times that dextropropoxyphene and tramadol are used in RLS, albeit RLS not attaching to opiate WD.

S

 

[TheLostBoys]

I know there are a lot of threads talking about this, but everyone's situation is different and i just want some advice so I can kick this. I don't know what I would actually call it but I like to say I have a "mild" opiate habit. I stop a lot but always end up doing it again. I have a slight tolerance; snort 60 mg opana; eat 2.5-3 OP 80s; snort 120 mg roxy; 240 mg MS Contin (Dont get fucked up, morphine doesnt do shit to me); eat 12 lortab tens (dont even get fucked up); etc,... and while doing all these smoking high quality and drinking quite a bit.

I go on binge's and realize I don't want to become severely addicted. When I stop I get some withdrawls including depression, lack of energy, muscle aches, but the worst of them all is restless legs and arms to where I can't go to sleep. That is my main problem with w/d's is the sleeping. I have RLS anyways so adding the absence of opiates just makes them terrible.

A few weeks ago I stopped taking stuff for about 7 days or so then I decided it would be okay to do just one opana 30 one night while partying and then not do them for a while again, not the case. I did opiates for about 12-15 days again. I then stopped the other day, was having withdrawl symtoms and late in my 3rd day i did an opana 30. Then today I did another 30 just because I was going to be alone all night and bored so figured tomorrow I'm stopping again and want to kick this for a llooonnnggg while, and only use once in a blue moon after that (which I know people will probably say not to do)

I am just looking for some advice, right now I have one xanax bar and 5 perc 5 mg's I got to decide to help and usually when I stop I just go cold turkey, besides eating ambien, drinking shit load Nyquil and all shit like that to try to pass out but it never really helps and i lay in bed tossing and turning for hours on end, taking hot showers and baths to stop the RLS which helps for about ten mins then its back.

Any advice would be awesome, and what the best idea would be in the use of the xanax bar and 5 percs. Thank you very much.

(Also the other day on day 2 of stopping I tried taking Imodium and Aleve which actually helped some)

Do you take all that in 1 day? If so, thats alot to overcome quickly.

 

[weedman615]

No not all in one day lol and those five percs are all i got with the bar and im not going to buy anymore opiates i just pretty much got those for free so figured i could use them for sleep in my first few days. I was just wanting some advice on how I should go about this with what I have, what would be the best way to take these and which ones when? I have the will-power to get through the day without anything but its night for sleep is when I'm going to take the percs and bar

 

[suessmayr]

If you use any of that shit now, hell, even if you took it all at once it would probably do nothing because of your tolerance.

If I were you, I'd wait until I was a bit sick, say until midnight or a few hours later, and then take one perc and 1/4-1/2 of the alpraz.. It won't work otherwise.

S

 

[weedman615]

You think using the percs tomorrow night to try and sleep, maybe take like 3 then other two one by one hopelessly wishing only 1 or 2 could let me sleep. Then the next day take the bar and maybe put back a few drinks both nights to kick them in stronger and get some alcohol in me to sleep as well. Does anyone think that sounds like a good idea?

And another thing I was wondering, say I stop for a week then use once, does it start all over again with the withdrawls? Or will I not have any, or maybe some slightly? Or what about like if I use on the fourth day or something?

 

[shady4091]

When I tried kicking for the first time, I found that weed, melatonin and a hot bath before bed helped me sleep. Whatever you do, don't take diphenhydramine based sleeping pills. I've found that they increase the RLS ten-fold. I would also advise against taking the percs as it would be just a waste with your tolerance. Maybe take one or two on day three or so, if you still can't sleep.

Also do NOT use alcohol to help you sleep. I've found that it drastically increases the WD the next day.

 

[weedman615]

I smoke weed everyday and it wont do shit for me for sleep with w/d. And do you really think it will be a waste? Im not looking to feel anything off of it, just to keep my legs and arms from going crazy at nights

 

[Alex000]

I wouldn't use the Percocet if I were you, it will probably just drag out withdrawal. Use Imodium, and the Aleve as you said they helped. I wouldn't just chug Nyquil, but if you want to use low dose DXM, use a product that contains only DXM, but that wouldn't be to help sleep just make you more comfortable. Diphenhydramine (Benadryl) is over the counter, and could help with sleep, but possibly make the RLS worse. You will need to sleep, so I'd break the bar into quarters. Use 0.5 mg at night along with maybe 25 mg diphenhydramine. Ideally you'd have more Xanax than just 2 mg, but since that's all you have I advise you break it into quarters, and hope it will help you sleep. 0.5 mg will at least help with the RLS, and anxiety some at night.

 

[shady4091]

I smoke weed every day too but I found it still helped *shrugs* Maybe it was the melatonin, give that a shot. Also, hot baths. I know it sounds lame but I think they're very under-rated. I was extremely surprised at how much a hot bath helped with my body aches.

I can't say for sure that it will be a waste cause I'm kind of confused as to what your tolerance is like but I would say wait until at least the second night before taking any.

 

[Alex000]

Yes, hot baths are a good idea. I haven't gone through opiate withdrawals myself, so I don't know the pain, but hot baths relax me in a way drugs don't. I am a bit of a compulsive bather, 3 times a day. Absolutely love it. But seriously, you'll feel better after a hot bath.

 

[shady4091]

Definitely. During the first few days of my WD, I practically lived in the bath haha.

 

[weedman615]

I didn't drink the NyQuil for that I didnt even think about that part lol it just used to knock me out but half a bottle wont even now. And yeah hot baths work for me and I do them over and over but the relief only last for about ten mins, but its still worth it. And yeah I do try to smoke to get it to help sleep but it really doesnt cause my arms and legs feel so bad, but atleast Im high after .

I am also not sure if .5 mg of xanax would make any difference on me :/ but then again I truely don't know and its definitely worth trying to start low and work my way up. Its just when I get fucked up I always go to get really fucked up lol so Ive never just taken that little really

 

[Come real or not a]

I just went threw a painful methadone withdrawal after being on 118mg for 3years and I couldn't have done it with out Xanax bars. I've done opiate withdrawals too and benzo's are a must. Also see if you can get some promethazine and imodium to help with the diahrrea and nausea.

 

[weedman615]

My stomach actually doesnt get upset on opiate w/d, I guess im lucky on that one caues everyone says they get it terrible. So would using the bar tomorrow night and then maybe the percs the next be the best idea or should i just cut the percs out of the picture? I just figured since they were such weak shit I wouldnt get high it would just cut down some w/d. I won't even accept stuff like tabs and percs when people try to sell them to me even if they are a great price cause like I said before i can eat 12 tab tens and seriously not feel shit even though snortin 120 mg of oxy i would feel it.

 

[jctoona84]

When I tried kicking for the first time, I found that weed, melatonin and a hot bath before bed helped me sleep. Whatever you do, don't take diphenhydramine based sleeping pills. I've found that they increase the RLS ten-fold. I would also advise against taking the percs as it would be just a waste with your tolerance. Maybe take one or two on day three or so, if you still can't sleep.

Also do NOT use alcohol to help you sleep. I've found that it drastically increases the WD the next day.

I'll 2nd the diphenhydramine effects on RLS. Hot baths provide me with decent relief, somtimes it last longer than one would expect.

 

[Alex000]

Forget the percs, they could prolong the WD's, even if they ease your initial symptoms. 0.5 mg Xanax would still have an effect on you, if you don't have a benzo tolerance. Even if you take large doses of benzos occassionally, a dose like 0.5 mg Xanax will still produce a theraputic effect. If you aren't going to use tomorrow I would dose 0.5 mg tomorrow night, and 0.5 mg every night until you run out. It will help, even if you experience insomnia you will be somewhat sedated which is a good thing. I wouldn't just pop the whole bar tomorrow as then you wouldn't have any Xanax for the few nights after. Diphenhydramine is iffy, could help, could hurt as has been mentioned. I might try it if I were you, but that's your call.

 

[suessmayr]

I think if we want to be realistic we will admit that 5 shitty percocets or whatever are not going to jump start some crazy habit. IF they even touch you, with they will only do if you wait for a while, they will just help with some of the key problems like RLS and basic comfort.

I just do not perceive any need to abstain from using them. You already said no to getting tramadol or dextro so you're obviously not going to buy anything else; I would use the perc's at the right time.

S

 

[weedman615]

So forget the percs? maybe I can find someone to trade for some more benzos. And I also have access to ambien, should I use that. But I know before in the past a whole pill hasnt knocked me out during w/d and they are 10 mg ambien