Opioids Kratom+Poppy tea?

[earlgreylee]

I am a long time opiate user. Been off methadone for about 1.5years now. Was ordering poppies and making tea for the last 6 months or so, but prices went up. Recently started trying kratom(Bali), and like what I have found so far.

I have a bit a left over poppy mash(boiled once), and was curious if anyone has trying combining kratom and poppies in a tea. Have heard of mixing different strains of kratom, and seem to me this could work well.

Also, have always read adding lemon juice to the poppy tea while boiling will make it stronger by converting some of the alkoloids. Im no chemist, but seemed to work to me. Would adding lemon to kratom tea while boiling have the same effect?

Thanks for any info, and the awesome forum.
EGL

 

[villian]

take the kratom in gelcaps and drink the tea on its own

 

[Seattle_Stranger]

I bet it would be great! I miss poppy pod tea so bad, but yeah, availability is next to none now.

I got addicted to poppy tea real fast man. Feeling high on opiates for an entire day, and still feeling it when you wake up the next day..... *sniffle*

 

[NeighborhoodThreat]

*Agrees with villian*

Or take them right after each other. Should be a nice combination, that's for sure.

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

Speaking of putting kratom in gelcaps.. i have a 00 capsule machine and about 1500 empty caps.. im getting a 1/2kg of red vein kratom either tomorrow or monday (depends on shipping speed) but i was just wondering how much powdered kratom you can get into a 00cap?
it holds a maximum of 750mg says the internet but with my compounding i have never got more than 600-650mg/cap which is good enough for me. But kratom is a plant matter and i usually use *legal* chems in the caps, so i was just wondering if plant matter will fit differently inside a capsule.. don't wanna hijack the thread but would just like an answer to this question and i feel it doesn't warrant its own thread. Thanks in advance.

 

[Bojangles69]

Thats really a waste imho. If you mix pod tea with kratom tea 95% of any high you feel will be from the pods not the kratom. What I know for a fact is during a pod addiction my ability to get high from even the best kratom stops completely. And no I'm not using bunk kratom Ive got it from suppliers who are known to sell quality assured product. Plus I've had their kratom work great when I was not using pods.
It could also be the fact that after pods wear off my receptors floor themself so hard that kratom as weak as it is can't bring them back up even a little bit. But I remember even when I was an opiate virgin I'd drink pod tea and kratom tea one right after another, and the feeling always seemd like more of a pod high. Maybe it might increase the hi a tiny bit, but I'd personally stay away from the pods and just use the kratom. Of course finish that mash you have and feel free to mix them, but being off methadone for a year and a half you should really avoid poppies all together.
And they're also not gone by any means, just don't use the 2 companies that are ripping everyone off. Look around and it can be found for a decent price, but I suggest staying away from that shit all together. You stop getting high very quickly and just wind up with a nasty foggiheaded opiate addiction.

 

[Seattle_Stranger]

Thats really a waste imho. If you mix pod tea with kratom tea 95% of any high you feel will be from the pods not the kratom. What I know for a fact is during a pod addiction my ability to get high from even the best kratom stops completely. And no I'm not using bunk kratom Ive got it from suppliers who are known to sell quality assured product. Plus I've had their kratom work great when I was not using pods.
It could also be the fact that after pods wear off my receptors floor themself so hard that kratom as weak as it is can't bring them back up even a little bit. But I remember even when I was an opiate virgin I'd drink pod tea and kratom tea one right after another, and the feeling always seemd like more of a pod high. Maybe it might increase the hi a tiny bit, but I'd personally stay away from the pods and just use the kratom. Of course finish that mash you have and feel free to mix them, but being off methadone for a year and a half you should really avoid poppies all together.
And they're also not gone by any means, just don't use the 2 companies that are ripping everyone off. Look around and it can be found for a decent price, but I suggest staying away from that shit all together. You stop getting high very quickly and just wind up with a nasty foggiheaded opiate addiction.

I mostly agree. However, I can see a good synergy happening here. Kratom in lower doses is nice and stimulating and provides an amazing anxiety relief, and not to mention the MDMA-like empathy I get with it. Pod tea provides a looooooonnnnnggggggggggg lasting euphoria and lovely body high, but can also be quite sedating. With the kratom stimulation and empathy, mixed with the everlasting euphoria of the pod team, this sounds like a killer combo. I bet they potentiate each other too.

Also, I find kratom to hit me ~20-30 minutes after drinking it, and I actually can feel somewhat of a rush from it depending on dosage. Pod tea always took a good 2-2.5 hours to peak. On kratom I'm peaking hard within the hour.

Only thing is I cannot fathom stomaching pod tea AND kratom, both absolutely vile substances.

 

[SpaceCadetHayden]

Speaking of putting kratom in gelcaps.. i have a 00 capsule machine and about 1500 empty caps.. im getting a 1/2kg of red vein kratom either tomorrow or monday (depends on shipping speed) but i was just wondering how much powdered kratom you can get into a 00cap?
it holds a maximum of 750mg says the internet but with my compounding i have never got more than 600-650mg/cap which is good enough for me. But kratom is a plant matter and i usually use *legal* chems in the caps, so i was just wondering if plant matter will fit differently inside a capsule.. don't wanna hijack the thread but would just like an answer to this question and i feel it doesn't warrant its own thread. Thanks in advance.

Around 450 mg of powder in my experience. It also depends as certain added potency extracts are much fluffier and take up more space per weight. For instance, one 20x Kratom I used, I could hardly squeeze ~.33g into a 00, while the normal Bali leaf I use I can fit upwards of .5g.

 

[HdoubleODeezy]

ok cool.

appreciate it.