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OverDone said:
Know what's weird? My instructor in my psych class answers a different question than the ones I ask.
Today we were talking of medications prescribed for schizophrenia. I asked if these meds had immediate onset, or, if they were like antidepressants (taking a few weeks for the full effect). I stated that my reason for asking was because schizophrenia has the exact same symptoms as stimulant induced psychosis and was curious if these meds are given to relieve someone of their delusions from a long binge of stimulant abuse.

I actually forget what her answer was because it wasn't really related to my question. Does anyone else know the answer because I'm freakin' dwelling on it now!
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They give the meds to people when they come in with substance induced psychosis, including PCP so I would imagine at least some of the effects are immediate.

If anything Seroquel will stop the voices cause it will knock you the fuck out. I'm not sure about the doses with sub-induced psychosis, however.
 
ocean said:
My cat is officially the most spoiled kitty ever.
My mother gives her fancy feast everytime she cries for it...........
She wants all the blinds open and will go to every window meowing at us until we open it for her- then she goes to the next window and meows........
She gets everything she wants. Little bratty kat. <3
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Asclepius said:
^ Nuh uh! Clovis gets cream bought for her and get this, Pate, Smoked Salmon(Seriously, I cant understand how she doesnt have Gout already!!)...also she refuses to open a door with her paw if a human is present to open it for her, she will stare at you till you do it!
They will rule the world one day, I know it!
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Oh my lord ladies, they are some spoilt kitties right there!!! :D
Cats are so funny like that, they can get whatever they want, at any given time. I don't know how they do it. Just from pure cuteness I suppose.
If I gave in to all my kitties' demands though, it'd be a full-time job =D
 
Legerity said:
Are you implying that these medications are any less helpful than they are claimed to be?? ;)
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who me , nuttier pharm meds for people who need help ? I wouldn't dare go down that road .... lol. These people treat things lke wooly mastodons still where walking around ... lets get real w pharmacology it's not that damn confusing.
 
Yeah I agree with you taow that anti-psychotics can have some pretty nasty side effects. But it's schizophrenia man, which in most cases needs to be treated pharmacologically. And so far anti-psychotics are the best thing we've got to treat it. Here's hoping we can come up with something better soon :)
 
agreed - I'm biased, near 2 grams of depakote , 1.5 gs of lithium and 800mg serequel - i was a walking zombie for 2 1/2 years to try to make things "okay" for my family. That's done wonders lol. Tad bitter, but if the poster has a reliable REALISTIC physch doc - then by all means, left un treated it's a bad bad place to find yourself from time to time.
 
OD honestly the way medication is being produced for financially reasons I'll go ahead an dsay that these meds , while help some , over all continue years of payin $$$ for results that are slim :(
 
Mehm said:
I lucid dream sometimes. Its pretty cool and just started happening one day. Now that I'm clean from all drugs I've been dreaming every night.

About to go to MA and get my 30 day chip. Longest time of the ganja in 12 years :)
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Very cool. If it works, work it :D

May2010-October 2010 I stayed off the m.j. -- I haven't been able to get 2 weeks clean (except rehab) in 8.5 years. Yes, I went to rehab 1000 miles away, to get off weed. It being my D.O.C. ...

Since then, I started again and decided that it is actually THE best medication for me. Right now, though, I have chosen to smoke K2 as I'm looking for a job... Ugh.

Anyway- doesn't it feel good to DO what you are doing though? I hope you have found your something that is working :) Dreaming is a huge plus!
 
OverDone said:
and I start thinking of things that have probably been well thought out extensively by smarter folks than myself. I still think I want to dig in a little more and find more info.
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Okay, firstly, you ARE "smarter folks" OD! Don't sell yourself short like that. And secondly, you should always be digging for more info! :)

mami said:
If it works, work it :D
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I love that :D
 
Mehm said:
I know that seroquel has an immediate onset. It can definitely be used to end a stimulant binge as its neurotransmitter affinity is greater than that of the common stimulants. Basically, it puts the person to sleep no matter what other drugs they've done. I'm not sure about its use in schizophrenia however. I know my friend (with the unfortunate disorder) had to take like 300 mg first thing in the morning :( awful side effects to be sure.
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Correct. Damn, 300 mg?! Was your friend hallucinating hard?

When I used stims (clean for 3 years in May!) Seroquel was about the only thing that could knock me out cold. I'm not schizophrenic. My mother was. Seroquel is on-label as a first line treatment for schizophrenia.

The side effect I experienced aside from sleepiness was a dramatic increase in appetite. I sleepwalked myself into practically inhaling a salad one night. I quit stims shortly thereafter.

How is everyone doing today? We are having company any minute, so I threw on a sweater and a pair of jeans. Then we will be going to the cell phone store.
 
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this is how my 15 minute nap was awoken. . . . god i love pugs - this one honestly considers himself king shit. And since everyone in the family abides ... fuck it hahahahahaha.

Done reading it's saturday, fuck that noise. Trying to figure out what "harm reduced" way to get some uhhhh, cabin fever / need to just be out more. I've been out last 3 nights and each night I felt like I was at some surprise jersey shore cast - the places are fucking garbage. Need to get into music I like: ultra music fest march =D
 
theartofwar said:
OD honestly the way medication is being produced for financially reasons I'll go ahead an dsay that these meds , while help some , over all continue years of payin $$$ for results that are slim :(
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It's unfortunate the way things are done...a lot of the information that doctors get is straight from pharmaceutical reps. I'm not saying that nothing helps at all but unless doctors make an effort to learn about specific medication themselves they are often getting biased information. The companies used to offer to fly doctors out to exotic resorts to give them information sessions about their products lol, I'm pretty sure that there are rules against that now.
 
^^ I also have a huge gripe with pharm. multinationals...after living with several people working as Nurses; its amazed me that they spend so much money on propoganda/advertising to the Health services- bloody Nazi, Monopolizing bastards...(although of course meds are a a necessity and even a huge help for some people), I hate the way they sleaze up the area of Mental Illness and turn it into a Las Vegas Style, Propganda machine. Sick!:|

theartofwar said:
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this is how my 15 minute nap was awoken. . . . god i love pugs - this one honestly considers himself king shit. And since everyone in the family abides ... fuck it hahahahahaha.

Done reading it's saturday, fuck that noise. Trying to figure out what "harm reduced" way to get some uhhhh, cabin fever / need to just be out more. I've been out last 3 nights and each night I felt like I was at some surprise jersey shore cast - the places are fucking garbage. Need to get into music I like: ultra music fest march =D
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Jersey shore-*shudder*

Goddamn Tristan is a heartbreaker! Stop posting him, I actually die a little inside he is so cute!!!:D
I know I am going to end up a mad old lady who treats thier pets like children...my Fate is sealed!
 
he does a number on the treasure chest man - he comes prancing around and BAM , I can't breathe for a solid 5 minutes LOL.

And yes, I can't handle it - my area looks like a tropicana field, orange spray tans, more horses losing hair - it's a JOKE. I feel bad up until I realize they honestly just want theirs - they don't give a damn about me, fact i love another, they just want what they want - fuck em.
 
theartofwar said:
agreed - I'm biased, near 2 grams of depakote , 1.5 gs of lithium and 800mg serequel - i was a walking zombie for 2 1/2 years to try to make things "okay" for my family. That's done wonders lol. Tad bitter, but if the poster has a reliable REALISTIC physch doc - then by all means, left un treated it's a bad bad place to find yourself from time to time.
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Yeah I can understand how you feel. It's a noticeable trend that pills/medications are being given to people merely so that it makes them quiet, or at the very least, complain less. :\

I also agree with n3o's point that schizophrenia typically requires medication.

What compounds the problem is that it takes nearly a decade to become a doctor from start to finish, if not longer, and by that time, whatever pharmacology you were taught is already outdated, and what someone else is studying is more current.

The war on drugs complicates everything, and encourages the worst of medications to be approved and prescribed. Usually this happens because people equate feeling good and euphoria to something that COULDN'T be medicinal, when this is just not the case. You can correlate opiate analgesia to euphoria. You can correlate benzodiazepine anxiety relief or insomnia relief to euphoria. You can correlate cannabinoids cancer curing qualities to the subjective effects of cannabis.

Why can we correlate these things? Nothing besides an opiate helps relieve pain as much, nothing besides benzodiazepines relieves anxiety as well, and nothing but naturally occurring cannabinoids has been shown to be such a promising treatment for many different kinds of cancer.
 
I have pictures before I got off the meds to show just how devastating my life became, I failed at suicide twice during the period i was on those meds. That's why I'm so biased. But schizo is a totally different ball game. I was given it and about 3 diagnosis instead of them saying okay, look it's pTSD - therapy and some drugs yes, but treating this like I am schizo was the worst thing that happened medically to me. I had to drop 160lbs (naturally mind you) before I could even think about getting back into bodybuilding ... that shit stole my life.
 
theartofwar said:
I have pictures before I got off the meds to show just how devastating my life became, I failed at suicide twice during the period i was on those meds. That's why I'm so biased. But schizo is a totally different ball game. I was given it and about 3 diagnosis instead of them saying okay, look it's pTSD - therapy and some drugs yes, but treating this like I am schizo was the worst thing that happened medically to me. I had to drop 160lbs (naturally mind you) before I could even think about getting back into bodybuilding ... that shit stole my life.
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I have known a lot of people to be on the wrong medication and to have attempted suicide because of it. I am so glad that you have since gotten on better medications. :)

I completely disagree with you though, the medications you were given, and others like them, are wayyy over prescribed in lieu of much more reasonable medicine.
 
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