Living another life completly.

[GodricNightfall]

So I have never tried salvia but I am very interested. I think for my first time ill try like .2 grams of some 30x. I am expecting the unexpected and am not underestimating it's power, I am ready for out of body experiences. What type of experence do you think I will get and what types of experiences do you get?

On a much more trippy note I might buy 1 gram of the 100x saliva extract and smoke the whole gram in one big bong rip. Now I am not sure what would happen but have have fantasies that I would be transported into another body in another world in anther time and live an what feels like an entire life. Have ome epic journey, maybe destroy the one ring to rule them all....ahhhhh.

 

[heythatsmybike]

...good luck with that

 

[smellytim]

xxx

 

[GodricNightfall]

You never really answered any of the questions and as for underestimating its power I dont think so. I expect anything and everything to happen to me. Also the 100x thing is mostly a hypothetical thing as in what would you think would happen. So can I have your guys opinions/experiences with slavia extracts please.

 

[nopipesdfw]

You never really answered any of the questions and as for underestimating its power I dont think so. I expect anything and everything to happen to me

Prepare for some new and overpowering anythings and everythings!

I would not be able to smoke a gram of salvia extract in a hit, and I have heard that the extracts past a certain point are not truly physically honest on their potency.

If you have just a bong and plenty of 30x, I'm sure you'll be able to reach a capping salvinorin a content from such.

 

[smellytim]

xxx

 

[GodricNightfall]

Its from salvia monster.com and They say its regulated very carefully. ALSO you guys are some dodgy motha fuckas. I still havnt got a decent trip experience from you guys and that 100x would not be for some time if I ever even did it. I just want to know what someone who has done salvia before would think would happen trip wise if that much was inhaled.

 

[Psyke]

Go for 10x. It seems to work just as fine and you're that much closer to good ole natural Salvia. Once you rip it you will realize that 5x or 10x will probably suit you better.

on the real

 

[iChelsea]

You are definitely underestimating it.

You are viewing the experience as some crazy trippy experience and after that it will be all over with. But when things go wrong during a trip, it can have serious mental consequences that can affect you for a long time. It can change the way you view the world, and even yourself forever. It can take years to recover, and affect the quality of your life in a very serious manner.

I definitely would recommend starting off slow. Taking a high dose your first time is a completely dumb idea and it could fuck your life up forever.

The highest dosage I could find of someone taking was 1 bowl of 80x

The man had done at least 500 hits of acid in his lifetime. He smoked one bowl and described it as the worst experience of his life, and now has Post Traumatic Stress Disorder.

 

[nopipesdfw]

Its from random source.com and They say its regulated very carefully.

If they are selling something they surely can't be lying!

There is only so much of the active (salvinorin a) that you can realistically absorb into a gram of extract material per grams of leaf put in, quite so past a certain point.

 

[alantis360]

He actually smoked 20x in that report. That purple sticky kratom is a rip off. I bought 20x once and after reading label more closely I found out it was actually 5x.

 

[BodyHereMindGone]

Salvia is not to be toyed with, But, ill post the first experience i had... I was like you, figured, id hit it hard the first time.

i obtained salvia, 21x oaxaca brand i believe (to this day, this is the strongest salvia i have smoked and i have smoked up to 40x extracts)...

i packed a decent hit, nothing happend, so im like.. "Wtf?"... Would estimate the hit at about 0.1 atleast...

Later on that night, i darkend my living room, smoked abit of green and loaded my "salvia bong" up with a small bit of green to plug the hole as to not lose any sally... i pack as much sally into it as i possibly could, (its a big bowl so it was well over your 0.2 mark, but still).. I put on a song "Karnivool - The Caudual Lure" and paused so that the second i put the bong down i could start the song...

I hit the bong, could sense something going on before i even finished the hit (I smoked the entire thing in one hit, i have monster lungs), As i put the bong down, i hit play, i feel reality start to shift, like in the butterfly effect when he is at the start of being transported to his lost memories, i think to myself "Wow, this is weird"... The first words of the song after the instrumental intro are "Ask the question" (i picked the song mainly for this reason as i only to psych's when i need personal questions answered)...

At that moment, the second he said those words, i noticed that i had tunnel vision, very bad tunnel vision, to the point where everything in the tunnel vision was BLACK, actually black, pitch black.. I started to get a lil freaked out, but calmed myself, but, the blackness continued to take over my entire eye sight... (This all happend in about 30seconds, bong hit, weird felling, play, intro, freaking out) So, im 30seconds in and already starting to freak out a alil, but, i compose myself and reassure myself this is what i wanted...

another 5seconds goes by and i completely forgot i had just smoked salvia... My vision is now black.. i feel something creeping up my left side up to my mouth, It then comes across the slit of my mouth, moving across the right side... Boom, Im disconnected from my body in an eternity of blackness (remember, my eyes are open), i see a line in front of me (i assumed this was where my head has been seperated from my body), and i seem to be floating above it...

At this point im totally freaking out, the song no longer exists, my body doesnt exist... What exists is my mind floating through a pitch black abyss... I would estimate this to be no more then 1minute into the trip..

Then, suddenly, i feel the same way i did when i first put the bong down, that "butterfly effect feeling" and i start see something... Its very familiair.. Its my neighbourhood from when i was growing up... im me, in a past memory in my front yard, watching an old friend ride his bike and do lil jumps n stuff from the neighbour across my streets driveway..

This calmed me GREATLY!!! I was really calm and happy and blissful.. so much happiness... But, as quickly as that first "butterfly effect feeling" came and went, it happend again... I get the feeling again and im transported back to this blackness... Its ok tho, im happy to be back in the blackness and await for what will come next.. I rememeber i had smoked salvia at that moment i thought, "Wow, this is what everyone was so scared of?" ... i then saw in the distance of the blackness, a giant gargoyle carrying something.. It gets closer and i hear "Salvia.... Salvia..." in the most deep and demonic voice i have ever heard, it was the gargoyle... As it moved closer, i could start to see what it was carrying..

It was carrying the very room i was sitting it, the entire room, i could see it as clear as day.. It was calling salvia to claim me as a victim for my previous thought of "this is what everyone is so scared of?" ... I got a lil scared by calmed myself and just s tarted at myself being carried by this gargoyle creature... Ms.Shiva never came to claim me...

once again, the butterfly effect feeling comes..

as it comes on, i suddenly start to hear music, its the song!! im almost home!!

the next place i visit is the band performing a live set for me in total darkness, with a faint purple background, pulsing to the sound of the music.. The band starts spinning upside down and around in all crazy ways, i started to feel as if i was on a rollercoaster..

The song is ending now, but, im still blind to everything, the darkness persists.. As the second song starts (THANK GOD IT WAS A HEAVY INSTRUMENTAL SONG!!) i start floating through this darkness, but, for some reason, there is alot of light/dark/pulsing purple around that if i focus on becomes more brighter and intense...

Then, the centre of my vision starts to come back, im thankful for this... The first image i see is the Earth (i used my ps3 for music and had the visualiser playing the earth).

So happy to be back home, had an amazing after glow.... Reborn.. Did not touch a ciggy for about 2 weeks, thats how intense this rebirthing feeling was.. I was literally a new me for about 2 weeks, did not drink coffee, smoke weed or ciggies, was alot more active in life.. But, alas, it diminished after a while, but, i will never forget the feeling.. I rarely smoke cigs anymore, i smoke pot once a week as opposed to blazing atleast once every hour and enjoy coffee in moderation...

Was a life changing experience for some very strange reason, i do not recall why this had such a profound effect on my life, but, it did and im thankful for it..

In conclusion, Do as you wish, its your life and your body... I did as you want to and had a very intense experience, was very scary but very calming..nothing i had ever experienced before prepared me for this.. I would rate it as a bad trip, there are alot of details i have excluded for personal reasons...

Posting this mainly as a guide to serve you that if you do plan on going through with this, make sure you have a trip sitter (i did not, i have no idea what happend to my body during this entire trip apart from when i was watching myself in the gargoyles box), Make sure your very calm and not scared of the experience your apart to par-take in, respect it but do not fear it and if you plan on taking such a large dose, dont be surprised if you forget that you just smoked salvia..

It will scare the shit out of u

Be respectful, Tread water, then swim.. Dont go scuba diving straight away like i did..

 

[GodricNightfall]

Well as I said That 100x was just hypothetical, thanks for your advice about just doing the 10x if that will still be an event. who knows what would happen, I do have a bit of anxiety so idk. I really am not trying to get fucked up. I wanted to do salvia "to find out who I am and what I should do" Can someone describe to me an avergae salvia trip?

edit: very nice post mind gone, One thing I want to say is you can nerver really be ready for something like this you just have to have to respect it and take a leap of faith. I do plan to have a trip sitter who is my bestfriend and would not fuck around with my trip unless I was endangering myself. Also revsting my past is something I would like to do. It seems like everything was so much simpler then.

 

[Project Will]

I do have a bit of anxiety so idk. I really am not trying to get fucked up.

Then what are you doing talking about smoking 1g of 100x salvia!? That's just foolish for a lot of reasons. Salvia is far more intense than people expect. I smoke a lot of DMT, but salvia is something I have stayed away from after getting lost on it twice. A frightening experience.

 

[GodricNightfall]

Then what are you doing talking about smoking 1g of 100x salvia!? That's just foolish for a lot of reasons. Salvia is far more intense than people expect. I smoke a lot of DMT, but salvia is something I have stayed away from after getting lost on it twice. A frightening experience.

I am just going to assume you didnt read my other posts, I am not planning on doing that anytime soon or ever, I just wanted people to imagine what would happen. Also I believe there is a big differnce between trying to get fucked up and a spirtual awakening or so to speak.

 

[Project Will]

I am just going to assume you didnt read my other posts, I am not planning on doing that anytime soon or ever, I just wanted people to imagine what would happen. Also I believe there is a big differnce between trying to get fucked up and a spirtual awakening or so to speak.

I read your other posts and I apologize if I came off as a bit of a dick. It is just that so many people assume that since salvia is easy to get and legal that it doesn't carry with it the danger of illegal drugs. Plenty of drug-naive people who don't know much about hallucinogens thinking salvia will be a good starting place since it is readily accessible.

You should read some Trip Reports from Erowid (http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_Salvia_divinorum.shtml) to get more of a feel as to what you can expect.

I find it frustrating when drugs are made illegal due to irresponsible use - such as the person who doesn't know what they are taking or takes too much of a drug, and then goes to the hospital or dies. It shines a bad light on drugs while the truth of the matter is that the fault typically lies on the user.

Just be sure to have a sitter if you want to try bong hits of salvia extract.

 

[iChelsea]

What is your experience with psychedelics? If you haven't tried them before I would recommend something more drawn out and shallow like a low dose of LSD. Also I would recommend tripping with a friend.
If you can't get LSD try shrooms. Salvia isn't the greatest psychedelic to start out on, especially in high doses.

If you don't have quite as intense of an experience as you wanted, fine, you can always try again. But if you dive into something you aren't ready for, you risk the possibility of a very bad experience that may leave you damaged for an unpredictable amount of time.

 

[GodricNightfall]

What is your experience with psychedelics? If you haven't tried them before I would recommend something more drawn out and shallow like a low dose of LSD. Also I would recommend tripping with a friend.
If you can't get LSD try shrooms. Salvia isn't the greatest psychedelic to start out on, especially in high doses.

If you don't have quite as intense of an experience as you wanted, fine, you can always try again. But if you dive into something you aren't ready for, you risk the possibility of a very bad experience that may leave you damaged for an unpredictable amount of time.

My experience is basically zero, unless you count cannabis and only my third time using it would I say it had a real psychedelic effect where I was for a few molment felt like a was in another dimension where everyone voices seem like abstract echoing sounds and had extreme time distorting effects. eg takes 5 sec to throw a cell form one hand to the other.

 

[BodyHereMindGone]

My experience is basically zero, unless you count cannabis and only my third time using it would I say it had a real psychedelic effect where I was for a few molment felt like a was in another dimension where everyone voices seem like abstract echoing sounds and had extreme time distorting effects. eg takes 5 sec to throw a cell form one hand to the other.

i would reconsider salvia as your first psych, specially at high doses... Im fairly experienced with pychs/dissociatives and i still had trouble controlling myself the first time i smoked it..

Perhaps you should start with something more gentle? Something like cactus? Low dose of LSD, Maybe some MDMA even, since you seem to have no experience at all with mind altering chemicals..

Cannabis is nothing close to salvia, so, do not try and equate the two... 5 seconds to move phone from one hand to another? ... On salvia, you will forget what a phone is, you will forget you have hands, you might even forget that your a person which in all honesty is very freaky..

please, be smart about this.. I have binged on many psychs but nothing can compare to the damage that can be done by salvia imo. Depersonalization is a real threat with this substance.

 

[Project Will]

My experience is basically zero, unless you count cannabis and only my third time using it would I say it had a real psychedelic effect where I was for a few molment felt like a was in another dimension where everyone voices seem like abstract echoing sounds and had extreme time distorting effects. eg takes 5 sec to throw a cell form one hand to the other.

Damn dude, if weed is sending you into other dimensions I can't imagine what salvia would do to you.

Salvia rocked my shit after 8+ years of regular cannabis use and many shroom/lsd/DMT/2c-x/whatever trips.

Salvia is not an ideal drug to start you off in your journey of psychedelics, but it could work. Start small. Don't jump off the deep end or you will likely hate psychedelics and be scared of them after you do. Try to get some shrooms or LSD and start with 1-2g of shrooms or 1 hit of L and see how that treats you.

It is up to you man, I would just hate to see someone start off on the wrong foot with psychedelics as they can be so amazing.