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Haven't used ANY drugs or alchohol. Taking hydrocodone

K'd-OUT-in-AZ said:
Go ahead with 15mg, it should be fine. You don't want to be completely fucked up at school.
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i want to be high enough to the point where i am outgoing or atleast not caring about anything.

damn if only there was a way to think the way my mind was when taking hydrocodone all the time. its crazy
 
Aarius said:
I just read this entire thread and I feel a little sick inside - not from ANY drugs I've taken but from the general feeling of standing on the beach and looking up at a long pier with no rails at the end and watching in amazement as hoards of fellow human beings are all rushing, literally pushing each other, as they run headlong to the open end of the pier and one following another jump off the deep end!! Is this what our culture truly is? Can you you sooth the hatred for me surging in your veins over this posting just a second and listen to "one old man's thoughts" who has just been through more hell than I ever knew existed in the mortal body.

There is NO SUCH THING AS EXPERIMENTING with any drug; Prescription, illegal or any way any substance came to be that was engineered to alter your "mood" or perceptions of "reality" so you can have a wonderful time even for a short time.

I just went through hell fire itself detoxing from 31 years of opiate use and all of it, 100% from day one, was as innocent as can be determined by this "culture" we live in. The drug was an opiate from the Darvon family called "Propoxyphene" of which I took, again completely with my Dr.'s "help" SIX CAPSULES a day almost every day of my life until the FDA pulled it the last week of November 2010! From just one old retired 28 year veteran Sheriff's Deputy, who has MANY TIMES arrested and locked up "drug users" because they had broken the law and their "drug of choice" was illegal. I actually put many in what we called "drunk tanks" and watched them over the next several hours through the little window writhe in pain and agony from detoxification and never once felt sorry for any of them because "they got themselves into this mess now let them suffer the consequences" - ALL THE WHILE I WAS ON A LEGAL DRUG and because I had been since 1980 never truly realized I was already hooked and someday in the future there would come a time when I would be forced to stop taking the "prescription" immediately and then the "monster in the closet" that I had always laughed at now came out into full view and proceeded to beat the living hell out of me even as I myself writhed in agony not willing to believe this was actually happening TO ME!!!

PLEASE - destroy that HYDROCODONE pill... Which is in the exact same family of OPIATES as the Propoxyphene I took for 31 years... Don't start down that road that so many thousand will now tell you began for them EXACTLY the way you describe as you go on a public forum and ask advise from what has to be other drug users about how best to "enjoy" the pill you obtained somehow.

OK... Now let the flood gates open and every addict who reads this who is fast in the clutches of that monkey on your back unload on me!!! It is simple human nature that so many who are in their private lives as miserable as you and I both know you are have some Satanic need to make others just as miserable as they are.

One last PLEA!!!

Destroy that Hydrocodone pill and resolve to NEVER take and kind of narcotic except under the strict supervision of a medical doctor and then for as short a period as possible.

Last question:

Why is it that it always seems to be some old fart like me who has personally experienced the HELL of addiction and somehow survived it who ALWAYS is the one standing up and tearfully begging anyone who reads this to never "experiment" with drugs????
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Reading this post makes me sick. Laughing at people you put in prison because they're in pain. Most of them were probably non-violent users who's only crime was putting a substance into their body. Living in a society (USA) that considers its defining characteristic freedom, I find it ironic that drug use is so vilified. I'm very amused that now that you actually experienced withdrawal you think differently about it. Most opiate users go through withdrawal multiple times, wimpy cop. Not like the flu, is it huh? Maybe all cops should be forced to go through withdrawal similar to how they're required to endure pepper spray.
 
Aarius said:
rant, rant, rant.....I'm a cop....destroy that pill....rant, rant, rant, rant....
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Good LORD man! Settle down. There's a HUGE difference between 30+ yrs of daily opiate intake and an occasional dose several times in the course of a month. Get a grip...

We're all different. We all have different biological chemistries. I was prescribed 10/325 Hydros 6 months ago...the pills are all gone now, but I'm not jonesing for more, nor am I renewing the script, nor am I out sourcing for any other opiate. No withdrawls nor addictions...just cold turkey. What works for me maybe won't work for others, but that's what this forum is for...asking what may or may not be harmful. An open forum for the exchange of ideas and advise is a great resource and the fact that Pantera is utilizing this forum before just jumping into ignorant drug use shows an admiral degree of personal responsibility.
 
I just read that fuckers previous posts, he made it 3 days into withdrawal before wimping out and getting off easy on suboxone(how he described it). I bet he didn't offer one of his prisoners that courtesy.




"It was in the 3rd day after not taking anything that I began experiencing "weird" sensations that started out mild enough and I really began thinking all is well.

It started with simple restless leg syndrome that progressed to the point of the most excruciating experience I've ever known. By now my chest, arms and hands were involved. So was my neck muscles and I found it impossible to sit and then to my horror I discovered it was equally hard to move about.

With my eyes fixed firmly on my phone and maybe seconds before calling an ambulance I forced my self to try the Internet one more time. To my direct question posed to Google I was shown several URL's having to do with a drug called SUBOXONE."



He wasn't even on that high of a dose. I would like to see how he would handle a large heroin habit like some of the people he laughed at. We all know that withdrawal is a horrifying experience but I have no empathy at all for this guy.
 
ferinox said:
I just read that fuckers previous posts, he made it 3 days into withdrawal before wimping out and getting off easy on suboxone(how he described it). I bet he didn't offer one of his prisoners that courtesy.




"It was in the 3rd day after not taking anything that I began experiencing "weird" sensations that started out mild enough and I really began thinking all is well.

It started with simple restless leg syndrome that progressed to the point of the most excruciating experience I've ever known. By now my chest, arms and hands were involved. So was my neck muscles and I found it impossible to sit and then to my horror I discovered it was equally hard to move about.

With my eyes fixed firmly on my phone and maybe seconds before calling an ambulance I forced my self to try the Internet one more time. To my direct question posed to Google I was shown several URL's having to do with a drug called SUBOXONE."



He wasn't even on that high of a dose. I would like to see how he would handle a large heroin habit like some of the people he laughed at. We all know that withdrawal is a horrifying experience but I have no empathy at all for this guy.
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LOL!!! I just got through reading that as well!!!! 3 days of Suboxone and he was good to go. I doubt he offered those "hardened criminals" he arrested the same sympathy.
 
HaHa In his account, his drug of course offered none of those awful side effects like euphoria. Now that would be awful. A little more happiness than the man deems appropriate. He actually made a point of highlighting that he didn't experience euphoria.

3 days of suboxone, good to go, what a joke of an addiction. Acting like he knows everything there is about using drugs because he had a continuous supply for years without having to worry about running out.
 
ok so heres what happened. I took 15mg. Everything started out great. After just 10 minutes i started smiling uncontrollably. I felt like i was on a cloud. It started getting more and more instense by the minutes and soon i was starting to "nod" like most you guys say. or atleast i think i was. It was so intense that i was just staring into space and my head would slowly start falling down. then i had had to get up and thought my legs may give out on me and i could have fainted.

Then this is where it went downhill. All the sudden It was getting so intense and i was questioning myself whether or not it was getting to intense. Then i felt like i was gonna throw up and it was coming fast. I quickly got up and went to the bathroom. as soon as i left the door to go to the bathroom i started throwing up but nothing came out since i hadnt eaten anything all day. then when i got to the bathroom i started dry heaving some more. then i noticed i felt like i was sweating.

After like 5 minutes i started feeling better and went back to class and then i started to feel pretty good again but not as much as it use to. then i switched classes and went to my final class and there i found that i was alittle bit more social but i wasnt really feeling really good or anything.

then when i left to go home i started feeling sick again. This was 15 minutes ago from this post. Then i started dry heaving again in my driveway. Now im feeling better again.

Overall i dont know what to think of this. I felt VERY good for like an hour and 15 mins but then after that it went downhill and if i threw up in school and something actually came out that would suck big time.

Now my question here is where do i go from here? I have no clue what dosage i should take now. Im obviously a huge lightweight. should i stick to 10mg or go back to 15mg? will i be fine the next time i take 15mg?

if i took 20mg i swear to go i would have fainted. lol
 
Pantera said:
ok so heres what happened. I took 15mg. Everything started out great. After just 10 minutes i started smiling uncontrollably. I felt like i was on a cloud. It started getting more and more instense by the minutes and soon i was starting to "nod" like most you guys say. or atleast i think i was. It was so intense that i was just staring into space and my head would slowly start falling down. then i had had to get up and thought my legs may give out on me and i could have fainted.

Then this is where it went downhill. All the sudden It was getting so intense and i was questioning myself whether or not it was getting to intense. Then i felt like i was gonna throw up and it was coming fast. I quickly got up and went to the bathroom. as soon as i left the door to go to the bathroom i started throwing up but nothing came out since i hadnt eaten anything all day. then when i got to the bathroom i started dry heaving some more. then i noticed i felt like i was sweating.

After like 5 minutes i started feeling better and went back to class and then i started to feel pretty good again but not as much as it use to. then i switched classes and went to my final class and there i found that i was alittle bit more social but i wasnt really feeling really good or anything.

then when i left to go home i started feeling sick again. This was 15 minutes ago from this post. Then i started dry heaving again in my driveway. Now im feeling better again.

Overall i dont know what to think of this. I felt VERY good for like an hour and 15 mins but then after that it went downhill and if i threw up in school and something actually came out that would suck big time.

Now my question here is where do i go from here? I have no clue what dosage i should take now. Im obviously a huge lightweight. should i stick to 10mg or go back to 15mg? will i be fine the next time i take 15mg?

if i took 20mg i swear to go i would have fainted. lol
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You were probably vomiting because you didnt eat anything all day. I dont understand why people choose to get sick like this because they didnt eat at least something. I recommend you eat something 2 hours before dosing. The high will be good & you wont get sick imo.
 
Pantera said:
ok so heres what happened. I took 15mg. Everything started out great. After just 10 minutes i started smiling uncontrollably. I felt like i was on a cloud. It started getting more and more instense by the minutes and soon i was starting to "nod" like most you guys say. or atleast i think i was. It was so intense that i was just staring into space and my head would slowly start falling down. then i had had to get up and thought my legs may give out on me and i could have fainted.

Then this is where it went downhill. All the sudden It was getting so intense and i was questioning myself whether or not it was getting to intense. Then i felt like i was gonna throw up and it was coming fast. I quickly got up and went to the bathroom. as soon as i left the door to go to the bathroom i started throwing up but nothing came out since i hadnt eaten anything all day. then when i got to the bathroom i started dry heaving some more. then i noticed i felt like i was sweating.

After like 5 minutes i started feeling better and went back to class and then i started to feel pretty good again but not as much as it use to. then i switched classes and went to my final class and there i found that i was alittle bit more social but i wasnt really feeling really good or anything.

then when i left to go home i started feeling sick again. This was 15 minutes ago from this post. Then i started dry heaving again in my driveway. Now im feeling better again.

Overall i dont know what to think of this. I felt VERY good for like an hour and 15 mins but then after that it went downhill and if i threw up in school and something actually came out that would suck big time.

Now my question here is where do i go from here? I have no clue what dosage i should take now. Im obviously a huge lightweight. should i stick to 10mg or go back to 15mg? will i be fine the next time i take 15mg?

if i took 20mg i swear to go i would have fainted. lol
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Eat some food and take the same dose. You can easily experience nausea if you don't eat. Also, one reason you didn't feel as good as you were the first hour or so was because you took it at school. If you were home alone you would have been able to feel the intensity to its max. Taking it at home by yourself is the best way to experience it.
 
You didn't take our advice and take it at home, where you could have had the best possible time, and likely avoided the heaving. Opiate-related nausea can be helped a ton by lying down which isn't really possible in school, physical activity and opiates can be done, but for someone like you who is an admitted lightweight I wouldn't recommend such. You seemed really excited about the experience, and you really should have been at home where you could have truly enjoyed it, anywhere but school. Can opiates make you more social? Yes, but they don't always, and when starting with them especially at dosages like 15 mg hydrocodone for a "lightweight" you aren't really going to want to get social. I never do opiates in a place where I can't enjoy them to their fullest.
 
lol i forgot about this thread...why school though??...once it wears off school is gonna suck even more
 
Hydros affect many people like this. Hydros make my wife projectile vomit...under any circumstances...with or without food. On the flip side I popped 25mg just before entering the gate at Disneyland a few months ago....one of the best days of my life!!!! =D
 
I don't seem to get nauseated at all on opiates. But I do know that for those who do, minimal movement is best.
 
well i really liked taking it at school. its just the throwing up part.

And im scared that if i eat food when on it then i will actually throw something up instead of dry heaving which is better.

i was just sitting there in my chair and it had to have looked obvious that i was high lol. I am alittle scared to try 15mg again though. I really dont know what I'll do. maybe i should take 10 mg because after all i want to use as little as possible. plus i have 20 mg left so i could still use it 2 separate times.

I dont know we'll see what happens. maybe i'll do this again on friday
 
Pantera said:
well i really liked taking it at school. its just the throwing up part.

And im scared that if i eat food when on it then i will actually throw something up instead of dry heaving which is better.

i was just sitting there in my chair and it had to have looked obvious that i was high lol. I am alittle scared to try 15mg again though. I really dont know what I'll do. maybe i should take 10 mg because after all i want to use as little as possible. plus i have 20 mg left so i could still use it 2 separate times.

I dont know we'll see what happens. maybe i'll do this again on friday
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Here's my advice for the remainder of your 20mg: Do 10mg on two separate occassions -- somewhere where you can just settle down somewhere and feel the buzz roll over you -- NOT AT SCHOOL!
 
Okay, since you have 20 mg left, I would advise you to do 10 mg the next two times as suggested by Whipped Dream. I think 15 mg would have been okay, had you followed the advice of taking them at home, and I don't think the heaving would have even been an issue, but who knows, maybe 15 mg was a little too much regardless. 10 mg will still be pleasant, but again don't do them at school. I could not think of a worse place to take them, even at a lower dose. Take them somewhere where you can lie down if you feel the need, and just relax.
 
well this is how i think about this. i really hate school so why not take some to make school fun?

and i just lay my head on my desk for the whole class.

and anyone think its weird that i get high from taking just 10 mg? they make 10 mg pills after all.
 
Pantera said:
well i really liked taking it at school. its just the throwing up part.

And im scared that if i eat food when on it then i will actually throw something up instead of dry heaving which is better.

i was just sitting there in my chair and it had to have looked obvious that i was high lol. I am alittle scared to try 15mg again though. I really dont know what I'll do. maybe i should take 10 mg because after all i want to use as little as possible. plus i have 20 mg left so i could still use it 2 separate times.

I dont know we'll see what happens. maybe i'll do this again on friday
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You really don't realize that you could be getting so much higher at home so you can't complain if it isn't working or only lasting a couple hours. It is supposed to last a full 4 hours but your doing so much (walking lol) so the effects go away after just a couple hours. But if you have got 20mg then the best would be to take 10mg on two occasions. But again, if it doesn't work, don't say I didn't tell you so. Any other place then somewhere you have to listen to people telling you what to do. That annoys me and takes away my high. But I know I won't change your mind because your insistent and determined to take them there. It would be better at least if you knew your tolerance first before starting to take them at school.

And no, if you would have ate you wouldn't have been throwing up. You probably wouldn't have felt sick enough to your stomach to even start dry heaving. On the bottles they usually say "eat something before taking this medication" or either the doctor will recommend it. We should have told you to do that before but for some reason we forgot.
 
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