Haven't used ANY drugs or alchohol. Taking hydrocodone

[Pantera]

all i can really get right now is either hydrocodone or oxycodone. plus yeah i dont think i wanna do benzos after all the bad everyone is saying about them. Even though i could use them for my anxiety. Isnt that their purpose?

 

[Pantera]

can drug dogs detect hydrocodone or any other pills? i dont think they can just making sure.

 

[Aarius]

I just read this entire thread and I feel a little sick inside - not from ANY drugs I've taken but from the general feeling of standing on the beach and looking up at a long pier with no rails at the end and watching in amazement as hoards of fellow human beings are all rushing, literally pushing each other, as they run headlong to the open end of the pier and one following another jump off the deep end!! Is this what our culture truly is? Can you you sooth the hatred for me surging in your veins over this posting just a second and listen to "one old man's thoughts" who has just been through more hell than I ever knew existed in the mortal body.

There is NO SUCH THING AS EXPERIMENTING with any drug; Prescription, illegal or any way any substance came to be that was engineered to alter your "mood" or perceptions of "reality" so you can have a wonderful time even for a short time.

I just went through hell fire itself detoxing from 31 years of opiate use and all of it, 100% from day one, was as innocent as can be determined by this "culture" we live in. The drug was an opiate from the Darvon family called "Propoxyphene" of which I took, again completely with my Dr.'s "help" SIX CAPSULES a day almost every day of my life until the FDA pulled it the last week of November 2010! From just one old retired 28 year veteran Sheriff's Deputy, who has MANY TIMES arrested and locked up "drug users" because they had broken the law and their "drug of choice" was illegal. I actually put many in what we called "drunk tanks" and watched them over the next several hours through the little window writhe in pain and agony from detoxification and never once felt sorry for any of them because "they got themselves into this mess now let them suffer the consequences" - ALL THE WHILE I WAS ON A LEGAL DRUG and because I had been since 1980 never truly realized I was already hooked and someday in the future there would come a time when I would be forced to stop taking the "prescription" immediately and then the "monster in the closet" that I had always laughed at now came out into full view and proceeded to beat the living hell out of me even as I myself writhed in agony not willing to believe this was actually happening TO ME!!!

PLEASE - destroy that HYDROCODONE pill... Which is in the exact same family of OPIATES as the Propoxyphene I took for 31 years... Don't start down that road that so many thousand will now tell you began for them EXACTLY the way you describe as you go on a public forum and ask advise from what has to be other drug users about how best to "enjoy" the pill you obtained somehow.

OK... Now let the flood gates open and every addict who reads this who is fast in the clutches of that monkey on your back unload on me!!! It is simple human nature that so many who are in their private lives as miserable as you and I both know you are have some Satanic need to make others just as miserable as they are.

One last PLEA!!!

Destroy that Hydrocodone pill and resolve to NEVER take and kind of narcotic except under the strict supervision of a medical doctor and then for as short a period as possible.

Last question:

Why is it that it always seems to be some old fart like me who has personally experienced the HELL of addiction and somehow survived it who ALWAYS is the one standing up and tearfully begging anyone who reads this to never "experiment" with drugs????

 

[K'd-OUT-in-AZ]

I don't think you understand the point of this website. If somebody is going to use drugs then they will, that is their decision. Nobody is trying to stop them because that's not the point. The point is harm reduction. To tell people how to safely abuse drugs. If their going to use, their going to use. We aren't their mommies or cops.

I've been through the same hell as you just not for so long but that doesn't matter. I've had to deal with people like you because our addictions are illegal thanks to you and we have to go through hell to obtain them. I don't use opiates anymore. I'm on maintenance. I'm not about to go on about all the shit I had to deal with and blah blah blah. Nobody cares about our past (except on the "darkside" forums), they want to know how to abuse drugs safely. I'm sure they know "drugs are bad". Its their decision to use. We aren't rooting them on to take more and more. We've advised against taking other drugs.

Your a cop so you wouldn't understand. Your job is to arrest innocent drug abusers and call us junkies. Nobody cares that you think drugs are bad. So do I. I'm not going to rant about it.

 

[Pantera]

ok so last time i took 10 mg hydrocodone on January 5th. That was 2 weeks ago. Now Im not gonna do it at all this week since all i have is finals. So that means Im gonna try 15 mg 3 weeks from the last time i took 10mg. and in total all ive ever taken was 15mg and even that was spread out.

So when I take 15mg 3 weeks from the last time i had some should i have 0 tolerance at all? If so, im 100% going to feel the TRUE opiate high right?

 

[Alex000]

Yes, you will have a genuine opiate experience. 15 mg's sounds like a good dose for someone with no opiate tolerance, but you have said that you are a "light-weight" so it might be a bit "strong". I advise you enjoy the experience at home, where you can just relax, and do what feels best. And, often opiate-related nausea can be greatly eased by laying down, as opposed to walking around. Really, if you want to enjoy the experience to its fullest potential stay at home for it. Don't use anything to "potentiate" its effects, as 15 mg's is plenty, and often other drugs can take away some of the pleasant effects opiates will provide. I never use anti-histamines with opiates, as I love the warmth that the histamine released by opiates provide. Stay home, and enjoy.

 

[unsettled]

People are going to do what they're going to do, I think it's great that this website exists to help people at least make informed choices and obtain some accurate information and experiences from people who've been down the same path.

I agree drugs can take everything from you and experimenting all too often leads to addiction, but my worst addiction to date was from a dr. who prescribed me benzos on a daily basis. I don't blame the doctor because I should have researched more before I started taking benzos daily but back then I figured a doctors instructions would cause me no harm. Opiates have put me through hell more than once but I knew what I was getting into, I had no idea, LITERALLY no idea how horrible benzo addiction is until I ran out one day and couldn't get my refill for three days.

I really think Law Enforcement needs to have more empathy towards people who are addicted, especially those who are addicted to something themselves whether it be legally prescribed or not. The bottom line is once you're dependent you're DEPENDENT and we are all in the same boat at this point. Anyone who has been hooked on Opiates or Benzos especially knows how near impossible it is to think rationally when deprived of the substance you're dependent on.

People are going to experiment, that's human nature, some will end up addicted. Some people will end up addicted just by following their doctor's orders, addiction doesn't discriminate. I think it's great that Bluelight is here and can hopefully prevent a certain number of people from falling off that cliff of addiction by educating them before it's too late.

 

[Pantera]

ok so i just got 15mg more which means i now have 30mg of hydrocodone. ok, K'd-OUT-in-AZ i remember you saying that i should try 20mg instead of 15mg. So since i may not be able to get anymore than 30mg for a long time what should i do? Should i take the 20mg but then i'll only have 10mg for another time? Or should i do 15mg two separate times?

if i seriously dont feel enough of what i want from 15mg i feel like i may cry.

 

[TheLostBoys]

ok so i just got 15mg more which means i now have 30mg of hydrocodone. ok, K'd-OUT-in-AZ i remember you saying that i should try 20mg instead of 15mg. So since i may not be able to get anymore than 30mg for a long time what should i do? Should i take the 20mg but then i'll only have 10mg for another time? Or should i do 15mg two separate times?

if i seriously dont feel enough of what i want from 15mg i feel like i may cry.

Dont you think you're putting too much emphasis on getting high & feeling the best high you can possibly get. I know its great to feel awesome & what not bot when you put the expectations so high, you may be setting yourself up for disappoinment.

Just do the recommended dose that KdAz said & relax & enjoy. It seems you are searching for the perfect high & there really isnt one. Just kick back & go with the flow.

 

[K'd-OUT-in-AZ]

ok so i just got 15mg more which means i now have 30mg of hydrocodone. ok, K'd-OUT-in-AZ i remember you saying that i should try 20mg instead of 15mg. So since i may not be able to get anymore than 30mg for a long time what should i do? Should i take the 20mg but then i'll only have 10mg for another time? Or should i do 15mg two separate times?

if i seriously dont feel enough of what i want from 15mg i feel like i may cry.

Well its hard to say, 20mg would definitely get you high but with 15mg you could possibly feel pretty nice twice. This will be your third time right? If I'm wrong and this is only your second time then you'll need no more than 15mg but can't remember if this was your third or second time. I dunno, it is up to you. I really don't know which dose I would choose, I mean I know 20mg would put you where you want but maybe 15mg will and you'll get two good experiences out of it. Maybe somebody else will have some opinions because I'm not completely sure.

 

[Pantera]

first i took 5mg and felt very good but for a very short time. 2nd time i took 10 mg and felt good but felt like i shoulda felt more. now this is gonna be my 3rd time. i havent taken anything in like 3 weeks or maybe its been a month im not sure. so i shouldnt have a tolerance.

Problem is these may be the last pills i will have for a long time because i cant see myself going up to one of my friends at school and asking for some pills. They think i dont do any drugs. i get nervous very easily and i love how i finally feel very relaxed.

 

[Alex000]

You said you felt some effect from 5 mg, correct? 15 mg will likely be quite enough, and then you'll have enough for 2 good times. Why take 20 mg, and then only have 10 mg for another time. Trust me, 15 mg will get you feeling good.

 

[Pantera]

You said you felt some effect from 5 mg, correct? 15 mg will likely be quite enough, and then you'll have enough for 2 good times. Why take 20 mg, and then only have 10 mg for another time. Trust me, 15 mg will get you feeling good.

ok thanks man. I just want to feel the COMPLETE experience. 10 mg i felt that it wasnt intense enough. I was expecting what i felt with 5mg but longer. my first experience with 5 mg i felt waves of euphoria and felt so good i was just laughing for no reason. Then i tried 10 mg and didnt really feel that but i felt just more relaxed for longer. also i almost fainted i think with 10 mg.

Mainly i just want to feel what i felt on 5 mg but for a longer period of time instead of just 10 minutes. Can i feel that taking 15 mg or 20 mg. the waves of euphoria was amazing but just didnt last long at all. after taking 10 mg i was so disappointed thinking i was going to feel even better when i didnt.

maybe i should just try oxycodone. if i get my hands on some somehow i definetly will. only problem is that ive got none!

 

[Alex000]

Opiates are an acquired taste for some, and others love them since they first ever touched them. Opiates are extremely pleasurable, but can be subtle in certain ways, too. Personally, I love them. My advice to you would just be to not worry, be somewhere where you can just relax, and enjoy the experience. Hydrocodone is plenty euphoric, some say as euphoric as oxycodone, but that is subjective. The point is just just enjoy it, and you will. 15 mg for an opiate-naive individual is a nice dose for the "all-around" experience. Just don't keep worrying about whether or not you're feeling the effects, let them embrace you, and they will.

 

[K'd-OUT-in-AZ]

Mainly i just want to feel what i felt on 5 mg but for a longer period of time instead of just 10 minutes. Can i feel that taking 15 mg or 20 mg. the waves of euphoria was amazing but just didnt last long at all. after taking 10 mg i was so disappointed thinking i was going to feel even better when i didnt.

maybe i should just try oxycodone. if i get my hands on some somehow i definetly will. only problem is that ive got none!

That was your problem, you were "expecting" more intense effects since you took a higher dose. Don't do that. Just let the effects hit you and enjoy it. Alex000 just said they are an acquired taste, that is true. Don't expect, just enjoy.

 

[Pantera]

ok im so happy i was able to get one more so now im gonna do 15 mg probably on thursday or friday. and then i'll do the 20 mg some other time.

 

[Pantera]

ok so i had a snow day on thurs and fri so im doing it tomorrow. Im hoping it will last me 2 hours and a half aka 2 classes.

you think it will?

 

[K'd-OUT-in-AZ]

ok so i had a snow day on thurs and fri so im doing it tomorrow. Im hoping it will last me 2 hours and a half aka 2 classes.

you think it will?

If you reach the right dose it should last 4 hours. That is how long Hydrocodone is supposed to last. I don't think you'll get the entire effects from 15mg but a taste. That was the dose you should have started at. Well maybe 15mg would be enough to get the full effects, I'm just not sure now that you've already taken them. Taking 20mg could only make it feel better but I guess it is best to start at lowest possible dose.

 

[Pantera]

If you reach the right dose it should last 4 hours. That is how long Hydrocodone is supposed to last. I don't think you'll get the entire effects from 15mg but a taste. That was the dose you should have started at.

i think i will :D

trust me from everything i heard i wasnt suppose to feel the way i did with 5mg. and i havent done anything in like over a month now.

Im hoping! :D:D:D

 

[Pantera]

im gonna take 15mg tomorrow and then 20mg possibly again this week and if not then maybe next week.

i dont think i should go to 20mg with going to 15mg because i faint pretty easily and that would be the worst if i fainted in school.