Titus
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Maybe it's 'cheating' by living in the usa and having guys in the military fighting and dying in efforts to protect your freedom by not joining the military and standing on the front line firing away?
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Steroids=Cheating...?
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Maybe it's 'cheating' by living in the usa and having guys in the military fighting and dying in efforts to protect your freedom by not joining the military and standing on the front line firing away?
Titus
Bluelighter
I don't think anyone here cares if you use steroids, I don't think people are going to try to convince you to use them. I think most of us are 'pro-choice' when it comes to drug use.
ronpaul3046
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yes, i know. im just curious as the general concensus if steroids are cheating in a way
Titus
Bluelighter
I was being dramatic on purpose. What I'm saying is maybe it's 'cheating' by getting a free ride enjoying your life and not engaging in military combat to scare the rest of the world so they don't dare mess with our country militarily. Some dudes pick up the guns and engage in military combat, maybe your getting a free ride by not doing so yourself. (I don't want to have this thread go off on a military tangent, I'm just using far out examples to make the point that it's not 'cheating' by putting steroids into your body.
I hear ya. Several of my friends are military and x-military and I often work for a PMC, so I personally put in my fair share of work abroad and I have bled for my country as well. Besides, we can't have everyone who lives in the US join the military, and we can't call the ones that we are protecting back home, "cheaters that are getting a free ride". I think we are on the same page bro...peace.
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Cheating is the breaking of a rule. As others have said steroids are only a cheat if you're competing in some way that prohibits them.
If the only reason you are using them is to improve yourself who are you cheating?
If you consider yourself in competition with other people in terms of your physique then I can see why you would consider steroids cheating. However I think you really ought to make every effort to get out of that mindset. You'll do your own head in trying to compete with the whole world. Just set ambitious but realistic goals for yourself and go and do what needs to be done in order to achieve them. If you choose to use steroids then make sure those goals are set appropriately higher.
If the only reason you are using them is to improve yourself who are you cheating?
If you consider yourself in competition with other people in terms of your physique then I can see why you would consider steroids cheating. However I think you really ought to make every effort to get out of that mindset. You'll do your own head in trying to compete with the whole world. Just set ambitious but realistic goals for yourself and go and do what needs to be done in order to achieve them. If you choose to use steroids then make sure those goals are set appropriately higher.
the outsider
Bluelighter
I think it would, and I'm not even a steroid user. Hell, I don't even lift weights.
theartofwar
Bluelighter
I started taking juice at 15, playing highschool football. It was given to the whole team. Football is serious business in some spots.
Is it cheating ? Uhh it's my body I'll put anything I want in it, I used to box and cage fight - is it cheating in that regard - if you get caught you are labeled that way - reality tho ? Everyone, EVERYONE uses. If you don't you don't have a shot in hell. This is reality.
Does it take away from great gains knowing I took steroids ? Not at all, I've been on juice for 2 years straight, let my body go to utter shit (and I mean utter) - and within a year I look bigger and better than I ever did, I check my bloodworks 3x a year, I'm very strict about things such as my kidney and liver health - watch my heart esp left vent artery. I take precautions. Will I EVER live without steroids - no - I will always be on TRT - their is NO point not too and same with GHRP2 (HGH is too pricey imo for the gains now a days ... lets face it jins aren't around now) and IGF1lr3. Test and peptides I will run till I die.
Here's how I look at it - you are unable to focus , depressed - your doc says take an SSRI/SNRI and some amphetamine or methylphenidate - BOOM - you are a different person in the work place, at home everything is clean etc....
Well as far as I'm concerned I am a much better person on TRT and even better on cycle (altho tren and halo turn me tad nutty).... I am driven, I set my mind to something it fucking GETS DONE.
Steroids are something that have a tremendous amount of stigma surrounding them. Ask the first girl you go out with to name one steroid when she gives you shit (if you decide to juice) - she won't even know their is more than one, i showed my girl how to shoot em (quad shot) and she thought you went and IV'd oilbase steroids (cyp / eq / tren 5ccs - whopping shot , split between quads). It's hardly her fault , she wants to learn more about it , but the fact is media pumps bullshit and in america esp people buy into it... it's fucking stupid.
If im a cheater I'll be better at life for it, and when everyone dies, point fingers at me cuz in the mean time I'll enjoy being better than those that don't lol....
theartofwar
Bluelighter
then go trip face, I love lucy kittens fuck i love just about everydrug.
but if you don't lift, let alone take steroids, then why would you comment on it ? Step away from google and come back to me with an answer about steroids. I promise you if it's out their I've read it.
Enough twig and berries trailmix bullshit. Shits nuttier than squirrel shit.
AfterGlow
Bluelighter
The laws forbidding the use of steroids for performance enhancement is cheating us out of the benefits steroids offer. They are not without risks, just like ALL drugs. But under the supervision of a medical professional, there is no legitimate reason for prohibition.
Tunnelfission
Bluelighter
What are some tell tale signs that one has reached their genetic limits when it comes to building strength and muscle mass?
Compare yourself to other men in your family. If you're 20+ lb heavier than the guy who never eats right or works out you're probably there.
Apologies to derail but.....Seriously? I think I must have been living in a dreamworld where my genetic potential was much higher.
My best comparison is my brother who is maybe an inch shorter than me but would be maybe 12kg (maybe 25lbs or so) lighter with a higher body fat. (We are both reasonably lean). I was still thinking I could push through for another 5kg/10lbs naturally.
Space invader
Bluelighter
Titus
Bluelighter
And we should not forget that back in the 1980's or thereabouts, when steroids were not controlled substances the American Medical Association was asked to testify before congress as they were considering making them scheduled drugs. Well the AMA was AGAINST making them controlled substances and testified to that effect (of course the government jackoffs ignored their testimony and made them scheduled drugs anyway). (same thing happened with other scheduled drugs too btw).
I'd rather take my guidance about drugs from medical professionals that from government bureaucrats who sit around and invent laws to monitor and control and prohibit my and your behavior.
Titus
Bluelighter
You cheater! You should be ashamed of yourself and go back to being tired and fat and having girls not like you and being insecure like a good citizen is supposed to do.
"starts crying and sobbing" i know i know. i need to be fat and tired. i will stop all steriods lay n bed and never leave my room lol
joeyjoejoeshabadoo
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if born to produce low t and taking steroids = cheating
then
born with a faulty organ and getting a transplant = cheating?
losing the ability to walk and getting a powerwheel chair= cheating?
but then on the opposite side of the spectrum:
shaquille oneals feet are so big, he complained that the reason he misses so many freethrows is because he had a slighty farther distance to shoot from than the other players. nba said rules is rules, toes behind the line. youre born with big feet too bad.
so in essence, cheating is merely based on a set of ideaologies pertaining to what should be as deemed by society. ie, poor guy with no legs is entitled to a wheelchair, while guy with low t, or guy with goals to surpass his given threshold is a cheater.
ill never understand humans. yes, i am alien. and no, i do not come in peace.
i guess opposing rules that have always been, is considered cheating when using steroids, for the rules opposed were set before.
but using steroids as personal gain/benefit and whether or not it is cheating, is subjective to the one giving judgement.
they should follow these guidelines in sports, for steroids were not always illegal. the use of steroids in sports predated the illegality of their use. so thats unjustifyable. it should be "well it aint my fuckin problem if someone doesnt use". because if not, then sports skills/talent all comes down to genes and in essence, gene superiority is in and of itself "unintentional-natural" cheating.
then
born with a faulty organ and getting a transplant = cheating?
losing the ability to walk and getting a powerwheel chair= cheating?
but then on the opposite side of the spectrum:
shaquille oneals feet are so big, he complained that the reason he misses so many freethrows is because he had a slighty farther distance to shoot from than the other players. nba said rules is rules, toes behind the line. youre born with big feet too bad.
so in essence, cheating is merely based on a set of ideaologies pertaining to what should be as deemed by society. ie, poor guy with no legs is entitled to a wheelchair, while guy with low t, or guy with goals to surpass his given threshold is a cheater.
ill never understand humans. yes, i am alien. and no, i do not come in peace.
i guess opposing rules that have always been, is considered cheating when using steroids, for the rules opposed were set before.
but using steroids as personal gain/benefit and whether or not it is cheating, is subjective to the one giving judgement.
they should follow these guidelines in sports, for steroids were not always illegal. the use of steroids in sports predated the illegality of their use. so thats unjustifyable. it should be "well it aint my fuckin problem if someone doesnt use". because if not, then sports skills/talent all comes down to genes and in essence, gene superiority is in and of itself "unintentional-natural" cheating.
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