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1500mg of MDMA

severely etarded said:
I had a similar experience, felt like my brain died when I came down. Just need some sleep, multivitamins, get out in the sun. Everyone says 5htp, I personally don't like it.

You can generate serotonin naturally by going out in the sun, your eyes make it when stimulated by light. Get some sun, take it easy. Any damage done to your brain is more than likely reversible. It's not like your brain was choking for oxygen because you stopped breathing.. Damaged cells have the tendency to repair themselves over time.
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I swear by the postload of 5htp. Works wonders wen used properly. Not only will a preload of piracetam lower your tolerance but a post load of it will help decrease cognitive damage and mdmas adverse after effects. Give it a try, im not one to preach things i dont believe in. I also eat beans the day of and the morning after my roll, strongest antioxidant on earth.
 
back in 2002, i destroyed my mental health by taking xtc every weekend for like a year. i developed some kind of anxiety disorder and i still have it. you get better though but you have to accept that you might have done a tiny amount of damage but, hey, you brain only has to last one lifetime so get what you can out of it.
 
I have taken a gram in one sitting before and didnt suffer any side-effects, as far as I can tell. Yeah I know it was stupid, I regret it now because of the tolerance it built, but I haven't seen any damage yet. I think the brain is a remarkably resilient organ, its ability to withstand large doses of chemicals is underrated on this board.

Saying that, it is very safe to assume that what you did has almost certainly caused some damage, even if the damage is only minor. That doesn't make it true, but we understand so little about biochemistry and neuroscience that we really don't know, so a conservative estimate is safest. I think you are unlikely to have suffered noticeable lasting damage, and would actually go so far as to say the side-effects you have felt so far might even be psychosomatically induced; you expected to feel bad so you did. Hypochondriacs get sick more often than regular people.
 
Your right i have definetely done some damage, but i was more concerned that it would worsen (i read somewhere that neurotoxins produce these oxygen free radicals that unleash havoc on your brain). Any thoughts as to it being brain damage or neurotoxicity, or neither (lol)? Think im gonna get some of this 5htp tomorow.
 
even if you have done some damage, the brain can adapt to compensate for it.

try not to think about it. i used to obsess about the damage i did my brain but, to be honest, the worrying about it is a bigger problem than the problem the damage causes if that makes any sense.
 
Okay, as far as I understand it (and that understanding is very limited) the neurotoxic actions of MDMA manifest in its damage the 5-HT receptor sites in neurons; the ares responsible for sensitivity to serotonin. From what I have read, it seems the damage is not to the neuron itself, because studies have shown 5-HT receptor damage in former MDMA users returning to control levels over time, and I am given to understand that if the neurons were destroyed wholly this regrowth would not occur, at least not in the same way, or so much.

So basically, the receptors are broken but the neuron remains undamaged, and eventually the receptors are regrown, at which point normal brain function resumes. But keep in mind, this is all very conjectural, and I am NO authority. I merely repeat what I have read and understood.

But I do think your brain ought to heal, and I do think you will be totally fine. A positive outlook is key to any kind of recovery.
 
SHOULD be OK - as long as enough aftercare (rest, 5ht-p, vit c, food, sun etc) is done, and enough water drank on the roll.

Don't do it again - pushing yourself like this is only trouble for your brain - you don't ever need more than 500-600mg from my experience.
 
Jblazingphoenix100 said:
SHOULD be OK - as long as enough aftercare (rest, 5ht-p, vit c, food, sun etc) is done, and enough water drank on the roll.

Don't do it again - pushing yourself like this is only trouble for your brain - you don't ever need more than 500-600mg from my experience.
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Best post after Mazdan. :) I completely agree.
 
I've done around 10 pills in a 10 hour period (1g), and actually recovered fine. The only thing is, I tried rolling three weeks later, and it hardly did anything to me. So the higher dose you do, the longer the recovery period is.

Considering it takes around 3-4 months to recover fully from an average roll, I think you'd be getting better soon. If you're still fucked up after six months then I'd worry. Almost all the stories you hear of people getting fucked over from MDMA, it's too frequent of use, not too much used during one session. I'm not saying it's impossible, but hopefully you'll be okay, at least within 6-12 months.

Of course you could have had some bad pipes as your pills, and taking 15 would fuck you up more than average. Well all you can do is wait.
 
Jblazingphoenix100 said:
SHOULD be OK - as long as enough aftercare (rest, 5ht-p, vit c, food, sun etc) is done, and enough water drank on the roll.

Don't do it again - pushing yourself like this is only trouble for your brain - you don't ever need more than 500-600mg from my experience.
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Don't forget exercise. probably the most important one of all. i forgot to mention also.
 
plenty of anecdotes lead me to assume that half a gram over the course of a night isn;t much to worry about.

I've read that neurotoxicity is amplified with re dosing, and reduced by taking the whole dose in one, but a gram and half of MDMA all at once should hospitalize most people. theoretically.

why did you post this? seems like your trying to show off.
 
Maybe if you guys wernt so ignorant you wouldn't come across as so condesending and maybe offer this guy some useful advice. Clearly he's not "showing off", it's not exactly something to be proud of, "yeah dude I've got more brain damage than you I'd like to see anyone top that", doesn't make sense unless your a proud etard. In regards to my opinion, the reason this post was labeled "1500 mg MDMA" is because his first post was labeled "MDMA brain damage" but seeing how it's such a controversial subject he never got one reply and made a topic with a better label and less a description to catch the attention of the fellow bluelighters.

Anyways dude, to offer some advise instead of insults, I've went through the exact same thing, I still am, and yea it's absoultely treacherous, I have legit, every symptom you listed in your threads. I've over come the insomnia and panic straka everyday, I still have mild anxiety, but still suffering the "no personality" side effect and intellectual dullness, it's the most depressing part IMO. I'd say eat healthly, vits, intense cardivascular exercise daily to induce neurogenesis, long with some mentally challenging tasks to stengthen and reguide some of your exsisting nueral connections. I'm starting neurofeedback next week to see if it helps. Good luck and keep us updated. P.s I've heard lots on electoconvulsive therapy being a successful method for treating MDMA induced depression, bit risky IMO , but worth a readup I suppose.
 
maybe a lot of the "damage" is just placebo effect...
if there is not enough study to know about brain damage then how can one assume the effects of mdma comedown are not ONLY related to the actual serotonin loss on the initial drop..
Anxiety,depression, and almost all of MDMA "negatives" are normal occurring things that people face everyday and a lot of them have never even taken MDMA to assume that it was a direct effect is wise but to say that its brain damage is simply to jump to conclusions on something that everyone agrees has not been studied enough of... if nobody was really saying much on MDMA powder's bad comedown in the early stages of recreational use maybe a lot of wat has become a negligence of use and now the division of a pill with other drugs which are known to cause harm eg. speed/meth has brought us into thinking what the gov. wants us to think and that is that no drug is safe...
the best thing u can do now is just get lots of rest and make sure ur caught up with wat we do know to be truth.. multivitamin, 5htp, water, rest, love, friends.. because everyone suffers from a lot of the symptoms associated with X and doctors even put them on anti depressants, and some have on mdma.. so yes you will get over this its not permanent unless u think it that way
 
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