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2C-E, A grand disappointment.

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Harrisboy42

Harrisboy42

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Hello all. I would like to share an experience I had 2 nights ago.

I ordered 2C-E from a reputable source online. I consumed 20mg and watched some TV for an hour, to wait for the effects. After an hour, I thought I could feel some relaxation and mild jaw clenching, but thought it may be placebo. Another hour passed, and I couldn't really feel much at all, only some slight anxiety and discomfort in any position I tried to lay/sit. After a little while, I thought maybe it's similar to MDMA in the way that it's not really enjoyable until you get to the "correct dose". So I decided to snort another 3mg, and this done nothing. Another hour went by, and I snorted 7mg. It burned like hell, but once the burn left I thought I could start feeling something now. When I was walking I felt quite light and my step was springy, and my eyes were extremely dilated. I thought I may need to take a dump, so went to the toilet and tried. In there I was staring at the towels and thought they were swaying and spiralling just a little bit, but that is the only thing that came close to a hallucination. For the entirety of the "trip" it didn't feel psychedelic in the least. I just felt agitated and anxious, couldn't feel comfortable, had butterflys in my chest.. It was not a nice experience.

I am also 100% sure the chemical is 2C-E..

Maybe it's because it's my first time, and my body didn't know how to react? Will I have greater success trying it again in the future? The stories I have heard have been so drastically different from what I experienced.
 
How exactly are you 100% sure it was really pure 2C-E? If 20 mg did nothing then I would say it was either total bunk or extremely diluted. Have you tried a reagent test-kit? Another way to test is give it to a friend.

Are you on any SSRI meds (Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft)? Did you take it with lots of an acidic beverage (like OJ, grapefruit juice, etc., which are known to reduce absorption of all phenethylamines, they even warn about this on a sticker on the bottle if you get a script of dexedrine)? Even a meal recently eaten can HUGELY delay and dilute the effects of 2C substances I have found.

Most likely reason - you got bilked, perhaps unintentionally... perhaps the vendor mixed it up with another phenethylamine like 2C-D whose effects can be very subtle to non-detectable. I know you really WANT to believe your vendor sent you the real thing, but sometimes good vendors go bad, or run out and substitute something else, or make a mistake. 20mg 2C-E is normally so potent you should DEFINITELY have had a rather strong experience. All these hundreds of people are not conspiring and just making this shit up, man.
 
Maybe I shouldn't have said 100%, but a friend of mine ordered 2C-E from them literally 4 days before I did, and said he had a great psychedelic experience. I haven't had the opportunity for anyone else to try it out, but when I do I will. I have read reviews of the vendor and out of the thousands of posts they are all positive. I dropped at around 10:15pm, but at about 7:30pm I did have a meal, and maybe orange juice afterwards. I am on no medication.
 
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Maybe I shouldn't have said 100%, but a friend of mine ordered 2C-E from them literally 4 days before I did, and said he had a great psychedelic experience. I haven't had the opportunity for anyone else to try it out, but when I do I will. I have read reviews of the vendor and out of the thousands of posts they are all positive. I dropped at around 10:15pm, but at about 7:30pm I did have a meal, and maybe orange juice afterwards. I am on no medication.
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Try it again on a totally empty stomach AT LEAST 3-4 hours since finishing last meal and no juices or soft drinks which contain a ton of citric acid.
 
20mg should be a strong +++ experience, unless you're on SSRIs, or are one of the unlucky few that has a large natural tolerance to such things. I'd get a reagent test kit, or better yet, send some to a lab that tests such things.
 
Damn man, that's a bummer. It sucks when a trip flops.

Maybe you're one of those (delightful!) weirdies who have an ungodly high tolerance to some of these drugs. Apparently these people exist, but I believe it only grudgingly because A. I trust the consensus of those on BL, but B. Never in my days have I personally met someone like this, and neither have my friends.

Think your only other option would be to get it tested either professionally or with a reagent test (can those even differentiate between the individuals of the 2c series?). Vendors, however great they may appear, can't really be trusted 100%.
 
Take 20 mg again, but this time smoke weed during your next experience at two hours in and dont stop smoking until your down. You can thank me later ;)

Now I cant gurantee this will open your trip, but my friend was a lot like you, he took 20 mg his first time with 2c-e and got no visuals what so ever, but he wasn't smoking nugs (because he doesnt like the way weed makes him feel). He even pushed the dose up to 60 mg spread out over a day and still was not getting much visuals, just a giant body high. Eventually I convinced him to smoke weed with it because I told him it just amplifies trips and realy you cant tell whats weed and whats your trip, you take a hit of weed and you just trip harder. Anyways he takes a hit from the bowl and proceeds to lie down in silence for 2 hours... He said he had never seen such a light show!
 
Do that ^ or simply try a bigger dose. Don't jump to 30 or 40 immediately but do 25 mg perhaps. Snorting may boost the trip but after a certain point there can also be acute tolerance that prevents you from getting a delayed lift-off.

Like I just said in another thread is that 2C-E does not have a linear dose response curve. 15 mg can be weak while 20 is strong. If you are for some reason insensitive to it (have a natural tolerance) then maybe you need an additional 5.

I wouldn't jump the gun but give it another shot sometime and steadily increase your dose. If that doesn't cut it it apparently isn't for you.
 
i would suggest taking this orally, as snorting it as you know is like the gates of hell opening up inside your nose, and that snorting this stuff, in my experience, can cause a VERY high level of nausea. a friend of mine spent almost an hour puking every 5 minutes after a 5mg bump. the best way i found to dose 2c-e (probably just as good for any 2c but ive only had E) is to mix the powder in some sort of beverage and drink it over the course of about 30 minutes. i read that idea here on bluelight while i was researching and it was much better than snorting or capping it, so thank you to whoevers post i read that from ;)
 
DwayneHoover said:
How exactly are you 100% sure it was really pure 2C-E? If 20 mg did nothing then I would say it was either total bunk or extremely diluted. Have you tried a reagent test-kit? Another way to test is give it to a friend.
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+1

20mg with no tolerance would blow me the fuck away.
 
2c-e was disappointing to me at first. However with practice dosing I figured out what works for me.

I typically take 12-16mg, wait for small effects, then I take 2mg bumps til I decide I'm done. I stress BUMPS! Take 1-2mg each time, pain is much more tolerable. Also, gently inhale don't "snort" like coke. It really sucks to get the burn in your throat.

Generally I use less than 30mg over the course of a night, and I'm fryin pretty hard by the time all is said and done. :)

Don't give up on it, just wait a few days for tolerance to subside, and take an equal dose + 3mg. Still not enough? +3mg next time. You'll find it man :)
 
10mg of 2ce as a first time experience 4 me was pretty powerful. Not "fun" but definitely psychedelic, and definitely powerful. Noticeable visuals, and definite altered state. I had a really good time, looking back on it actually:)

that sucks OP. better luck next time.
 
Harrisboy42 said:
Hello all. I would like to share an experience I had 2 nights ago.

I ordered 2C-E from a reputable source online. I consumed 20mg and watched some TV for an hour, to wait for the effects. After an hour, I thought I could feel some relaxation and mild jaw clenching, but thought it may be placebo. Another hour passed, and I couldn't really feel much at all, only some slight anxiety and discomfort in any position I tried to lay/sit. After a little while, I thought maybe it's similar to MDMA in the way that it's not really enjoyable until you get to the "correct dose". So I decided to snort another 3mg, and this done nothing. Another hour went by, and I snorted 7mg. It burned like hell, but once the burn left I thought I could start feeling something now. When I was walking I felt quite light and my step was springy, and my eyes were extremely dilated. I thought I may need to take a dump, so went to the toilet and tried. In there I was staring at the towels and thought they were swaying and spiralling just a little bit, but that is the only thing that came close to a hallucination. For the entirety of the "trip" it didn't feel psychedelic in the least. I just felt agitated and anxious, couldn't feel comfortable, had butterflys in my chest.. It was not a nice experience.

I am also 100% sure the chemical is 2C-E..

Maybe it's because it's my first time, and my body didn't know how to react? Will I have greater success trying it again in the future? The stories I have heard have been so drastically different from what I experienced.
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20mg definitely should have had an effect(and a strong one at that, depending on your weight). Are you on any medications (such as SSRIs or Tricyclics) for any psychological disorders? These medications drastically affect the action of psychedelics.

Now there are a few things that could have gone wrong here such as:

Your vendor could have supplied you with impure 2C-E
You mismeasured your dose.

If 20mg of the stuff you have works fine on someone else then it's just you :\.
 
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believe me, I've taken 30-40mg of t2 and felt very mild effects, I'd have to snort it to get a real experience. I know where the guy is coming from, I also had no tolerance at the time. for now I'm done with 2c's.
 
Your "reputable source" must not be.......20mg's of 2c-e will blow your face off....experienced tripper or not. It is one of the greatest tools that Shulgin has given us and has helped shape my reality in the last year or so.
 
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Your "reputable source" must not be.......20mg's of 2c-e will blow your face off....experienced tripper or not. It is one of the greatest tools that Shulgin has given us and has helped shape my reality in the last year or so.
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I'm sorry, but you can't say that... some people have different chemical makeups, and I'm pretty sure this is the case here.
 
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