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DXM lover

Visitor Q said:
IME, PCP and DXM are like the evil trashy twins of Ketamine and Nitrous, as far as dissociatives go. I understand that people react differently to chemicals, but the first two have always seemed "dirtier" and "darker" to me than K and N2O, if that makes any sense.

Ketamine, even if intensely dissociating, always leaves me feeling clean afterwards. Doesn't apply to DXM... (at least for me). Plus, it gives me epic gas (DXM), although that could be the nasty syrup or tablets it's in. I've never seen or tried it as pure crystals.
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I would definitely consider PCP to be 'dirtier' (feeling) than ketamine or nitrous, but I dunno about DXM. I think the methods most people use to ingest DXM and the nasty inactive ingredients involved are responsible for most of the 'dirty' effects of DXM. When extracted, pure, or taken through a less disgusting method than tussin, I don't find DXM to be dirty at all. Sometimes it still makes me nauseous though. I might agree that it feels 'darker' than ketamine, though. It really plays with ego-loss and OOBE's (out of body experiences) for me. Where as K is more of sensory deprivation.

Nothing is quite as amazing to me as having my point of perception lifted above my limp, chunk-of-meat body and just simply observing the present moment with not a drop of ego in sight.

Well, idk, combining DXM and K and Nitrous was pretty mind-shattering as well :D
 
lightitup said:
I have another friend who swears by DXM, and it's amazing psychedelic properties. I haven't tried it yet, as I have been a bit scared off of psyches recently (next trip is in about a month, though), due to an opiate addiction. This is another point for that, so I will probably have to try this in the coming months.

If you like the properties of that, Ketamine is another great option, if you can find it decently. It is very similar and different (I hear), but it is one of my favorite substances on the planet.
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I would not suggest ketamine to someone who has had substance abuse issues in the past... I think its addictive potential outweighs alcohol's.
 
psood0nym said:
That's weird. I swear it was surf shaman who double posted. But if you're posting as two people how did you edit it as Visitor Q?

Bluelight has been pretty sluggish lately. Too big for its britches.
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i had an inet problem - but you know what????

i'll say it again - OP you're making a horrible mistake IMO

to get physically addicted to booze and get clean of that
and then think its ok to do DXM a few times a week????



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if you are tripping 3x a week its WAAAAAAAAY too much. Especially with a physical addiction in your history.
OP you need to re-evaluate what you are doing. For somebody that's addictive - it seems like you have swapped one thing for another.
now i've never dosed DXM so i can't really say about that trip - i've had my fair share of others and i totally know that it takes more than a day or two to reintegrate what you learned on your trip back into to your life. when you trip over and over constantly like that - you are escaping reality.
 
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Visitor Q said:
IME, PCP and DXM are like the evil trashy twins of Ketamine and Nitrous, as far as dissociatives go. I understand that people react differently to chemicals, but the first two have always seemed "dirtier" and "darker" to me than K and N2O, if that makes any sense.

Ketamine, even if intensely dissociating, always leaves me feeling clean afterwards. Doesn't apply to DXM... (at least for me). Plus, it gives me epic gas (DXM), although that could be the nasty syrup or tablets it's in. I've never seen or tried it as pure crystals.
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We are using Robitussin (or RiteAid/Walgreen's/CVS Tussin) cough gels now, in which DXM is the only active ingredient. The cough gels contain glycerin, which is often used as an oral laxative or suppository. We haven't experienced any ill effects from it, but your mileage may vary. We have ordered powder and are awaiting delivery.
 
surf.shaman said:
i had an inet problem - but you know what????

i'll say it again - OP you're making a horrible mistake IMO

to get physically addicted to booze and get clean of that
and then think its ok to do DXM a few times a week????



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if you are tripping 3x a week its WAAAAAAAAY too much. Especially with a physical addiction in your history.
OP you need to re-evaluate what you are doing. For somebody that's addictive - it seems like you have swapped one thing for another.
now i've never dosed DXM so i can't really say about that trip - i've had my fair share of others and i totally know that it takes more than a day or two to reintegrate what you learned on your trip back into to your life. when you trip over and over constantly like that - you are escaping reality.
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I understand that most people think this is so. I hear you and thank you for your concern. This is not escapism. I am more involved with the world now than I have been for years. I do not know what "OP" means. You are not speaking to a child or someone who doesn't understand addiction. I am not a newbie. I am not naive. I am on a journey of my choosing. I am aware of the danger. I am a strong individual, a survivor. This is my life and my path.
 
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Let's be clear. I have used a lot of cocaine but was never addicted. I have used a lot of amphetamines but was never addicted. I have used psychedelics in the past. I have smoked a lot of pot but don't care for it now and never use it. Three days after I discovered I was physically addicted to alcohol, I stopped drinking. I use DXM and e-cigarettes but nothing else. I'm not a fool. I take some risks, but so do each of you. Have some faith in my judgment, please.

The use of all substances should be weighed carefully. There are benefits and risks. In this case the benefits exceed the risks. When they don't, I'll stop.
 
IamMe90 said:
I would not suggest ketamine to someone who has had substance abuse issues in the past... I think its addictive potential outweighs alcohol's.
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I intend to avoid ketamine for that reason. :)
 
3x a week is unsustainable for reasons of tolerance, as a non-naive person you should know that. You can only up the dose so for so long, and when you're still doing this to no more apparent benefit, what then? It's wonderful that this is helping you, but would it not be better to build a healthy and sustainable relationship with the drug now, while you still can? I think you underestimate the negative impact a dissociative addiction can have on a person, especially psychologically.

Edit: you addressed the above in your post while I was writing it..do you think you'll notice when the benefits start outweighing the risk every time? It seems you have never been psychologically addicted to anything, most people don't notice when it becomes bad. You know, denial and stuff, it has happened to many of us. We just don't want to see you end up in a worse place than before when you could have avoided it through some extra caution.
 
Never Knows Best said:
3x a week is unsustainable for reasons of tolerance, as a non-naive person you should know that. You can only up the dose so for so long, and when you're still doing this to no more apparent benefit, what then? It's wonderful that this is helping you, but would it not be better to build a healthy and sustainable relationship with the drug now, while you still can? I think you underestimate the negative impact a dissociative addiction can have on a person, especially psychologically.

Edit: you addressed the above in your post while I was writing it..do you think you'll notice when the benefits start outweighing the risk every time? It seems you have never been psychologically addicted to anything, most people don't notice when it becomes bad. You know, denial and stuff, it has happened to many of us. We just don't want to see you end up in a worse place than before when you could have avoided it through some extra caution.
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I'm not sure one can be physically addicted without also being psychologically addicted. I am far better at arresting a problem early than most people.
 
Becoming addicted to something is a process that can be arrested at any time. It is not an event.
 
I need to think and re-read what you have said a few more times - I really want this dialog to continue. I'm trying to understand your point of view - and frankly its tough and I think you are kidding yourself.

( OP means "original poster" )
 
ok. listen to me as a recovering alcoholic myself who has found rapture in dxm> dxm will take you if you let it, but it does have the potential to save you if your able to curb the craving. i took dxm for over a month strait 300mgs everyday...not good...will lead to alcohol when the money runs out or ya get scared of drug stores....but. one a week at no more than 200mgs ive found no bad reprocussions whatsoever. though your tolerence increases, as alcoholics we learn that living with less to feel normal is as good as drunk in most cases, use that mind frame and ou will find control and dxm will help, let it go and your screwed, dxm will hurt the brain, alcohol can fix it oddly enough but livir and kidney damage is to extreme to risk and alcohol even a shot to an alcoholic is deadly.......be advised....
 
Eye's use now appears to me to be self-medicating his depression.
I don't understand the receptor action / neurotransmitter re-uptake / neurotransmitter agonist / or whatever action of DXM BUT it really appears as though he's using it as an off label anti-depressant... still i don't agree with this choice of medication and I am sure there are better options.
 
when it comes to anti-depressents I'd stick with DXM over any SSRI or MAOI on the market. Though if I were trying to use an NMDA-antagonist as an anti-depressent I'd go with ketamine. Threshold level dose every other day.
 
Seems like a lot of people on bluelight have very narrow views on what constitutes "addiction". It can be as simple as "falling in love" with a drug, because that's always going to be a one sided relationship :) hahaha
 
If he is self-medicating and that is what he wants to do, then that's his choice. If I had to chose between being physically dependent on alcohol or doing DXM 3 times a week, I would pick the DXM.

Either way, he has explained what he is doing and why he is doing it. Everybody gets to make their own decisions :)
 
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