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Ecstasy ruined my acid trip

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I recently ate two of the strongest doses ever. After about 3 hours I decided I wanted to experience the ultimate candy flip. I ate 2 high strength pure mdma pills. Neon snow began to appear where ever there was light, especially in the keys of my lap top mac book pro. Pretty amazing, in fact it increased the intensity of my trip to the point of almost being overwhelming. Although I was tripping harder, things felt dirty. Acid is just so good on its own. I felt like I had tainted my perfectly good state of mind. After an hour of so of candy flipping, I felt totally burnt out. My mind had had enough, and could not keep up with the hours of acid to come. I ate a couple more pills hoping to be able to enjoy the rest of the trip, but with no positive effect. Mdma is fucking poison man. My body and mind were really pissed off. I though candy flipping was supposed to be great. Maybe my acid dose was too high, maybe I didn't wait long enough before taking the mdma, or maybe mdma is just another shitty drug like crack, speed and cocaine.
 
i think you just dosed too high.

if you don't have a super-high tolerance, dosing as high as you did will simply cause dysphoria and perhaps a white-out or fainting.

be sure to give your body a good break (plenty of rest and fluids) after what you put it through.
 
what do you expect dude, both are chemicals that effect your brain, either one in high doses will make you feel dirty.
 
what do you expect dude, both are chemicals that effect your brain, either one in high doses will make you feel dirty.

what do you mean by dirty? Like too much head fuck or too much stimulation? ive taken both drugs at pretty high doses but I wouldnt call high dose lsd dirty at all. mdma deffinitely, talk about fookin poising yourself, more then half a gram an I can kiss enjoying the next day goodbye.

but anyways yah it might just be the lsd plus mdma combo is just not for you. I myself enjoy it but dont think its worth the day after. There are plenty of drugs and combos people love that I dont enjoy, doesnt mean either of us is right or wrong just means as you can expect different people will prefer different things.
 
I wouldn't consider MDMA a poison, each person reacts differently and 4 strong pills sounds like a lot to combine with acid. Maybe you just benefit more from using LSD on its own and MDMA is not a particularly useful tool for you to use.
 
combining powerful drugs at very high doses, is a much different experience than combining them at more moderate doses. As with anything, the dose makes the poison, there's an LD50 for everything.
 
Sounds like you just got your ass handed to you. Now you know not to dose so high when combining them both.

Lesson learnt :)
 
in my experience mdma always retracts from what would otherwise be a perfect lsd experience. at the point you combine the two the effects of both of them are going to start to diminish, and for me this usually happens with the L. My perfect candy flip is a two hits of lsd, and then an hour or so later a single dose of mdma. seems to keep me where i wanna be for quite sometime, with a really "rapturous" day after feeling.
 
the key to a good candytrip, apart from timing, is not dosing too high. Especially the mdma dose should be moderate IMO. I like the lsd to dominate the trip with just some enhancement from the mdma.
 
With the candy-flip dosage is important, I recommend eating one single tab (unless they are substantially weak) of LSD blotter you are familiar with (tried/tested) and a single MDMA pill (unless substantially weak) that you are familiar with. Both drugs go extremely well and overdoing it can completely ruin it. Hope this helps!
 
I usually prefer to do it the other wya around, high dose of mdma followewd with just a touch acid, like ½ a good blotter.

Then it´s just mdma with some nice visuals instead of lsd with this speedy fiendish behavior since that is what mdma does for me.
 
especially if you've taken alot of MDMA before I can see how one could feel it taking away from the "magic" or pureness of an LSD trip, or a certain type of LSD trip. The synergy is there but as a friend once put it "Molly is a great girl...but shes SKETCHY as all be!"

MDMA is unreliable too, you can feel quite otherworldly and connected with people have experiences, then sometimes just feel sketchy about it afterward, or think/regret saying something that you thought was well timed and appropriate at the time but realized later that everyone wasn't actually on that wavelength.

On an LSD trip one is a little bit weary of everything and therefore discretion is an extreme urge. When one is on acid and is faced with any authority the one thought is "How can I act normal, and what can I do to make it out of this alive and quickly and back to my trip and an uninterpretable state?"
 
I love the candyflip but I can definitely see how its not for everyone. I waited until about 3 hours into the acid trip to take it and it basically just made the visuals crazy wild and put me in a really energized good mood. My headspace is always giddy like being a four year old again. It certainly loses its deep thinking for me though and becomes pretty much purely recreational until the mdma wears off a quite a bit.
 
Yeah it really takes the edge off the acid and replaces the nature of the trip with a MDMA dominance. the LSD turns into something that's just making you hallucinate at that point and the MDMA is causing you to open up and be talkative instead of quiet and ponderous.
 
MDMA is unreliable too, you can feel quite otherworldly and connected with people have experiences, then sometimes just feel sketchy about it afterward, or think/regret saying something that you thought was well timed and appropriate at the time but realized later that everyone wasn't actually on that wavelength.

The problem is that most people do not transfer the level of awareness they experience on MDMA to their everyday life. It may seem like what you said was inappropriate, because you are no longer in that state of openness. This doesn't mean that it was in fact inappropriate, just that you are no longer able to perceive its perfection.

I'm convinced that this is why so many people experience depression from MDMA, there is a lack of integration. If you have the belief that the only way to experience that connection to people is while on MDMA, then anxiety/depression/emptiness seem to be the only possible outcome from using it.
 
For a better experience, I would recommend smaller doses. And since the high from Ecstasy is much shorter than the high from Acid, I would personally wait till I was an hour or two into the trip before I dropped the X.

However, with my latest drug experiences I would have to agree with you when you say Ecstasy is a poison.. I'm all good with Acid :)
 
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