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natural opiate tolerance?

Mysterie

Mysterie

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I've tried codeine at doses 100mg and 150mg and I felt nothing at all

I've tried tramadol at 150mg and felt absolutely nothing

Is this because the drugs are hit and miss?

Or do i need to try higher doses?

I'm not even a big guy or overweight :(
 
1) How do optain your codeine ? ( I mean do you extract it by CWE or do you have pure 50 mg tabs ?)
2) Have you eat (maybe a lot) before or not you've taken your drug ?
3) Are you under benzodiazepine like xanax or ativan or valium, other medicine ? (like anti depressant, antipsychotic if yes wich one ?)
4) have you been under hard opiates in the past (stupid question, I'm sure you never tried opiates before ; but...)

5) About your tramadol is it the extended realease form ? (tramadol retard,...)

Answer please these questions before increase your dose and I will give you a feedback
 
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K'd-OUT-in-AZ said:
150mg Tramadol = extra small dose
100-150mg Codeine = small dose

Take 250mg of Codeine or 300mg Tramadol
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I don't agree at all
For a non tolerant people (someone who has never taken opiates, it is not a small dose)

150mg tramadol is already potent, that's the reason I ask these bunch of questions. Also if he had bought it on the web it is maybe fake pills

300mg of tramadol for a beginner is huge !!! be serious
but for a man under heroin it is the same effect than a glass of milk

Apparently this guy (or girl) is a more beginner
 
300 mg a good dose for a beginner it's a joke ????

you know like me that 400mg is the top max high dose then how 300mg could be a starting dose ?? completely illogical no ?
 
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benzofan said:
1) How do optain your codeine ? ( I mean do you extract it by CWE or do you have pure 50 mg tabs ?)
2) Have you eat (maybe a lot) before or not you've taken your drug ?
3) Are you under benzodiazepine like xanax or ativan or valium, other medicine ? (like anti depressant, antipsychotic if yes wich one ?)
4) have you been under hard opiates in the past (stupid question, I'm sure you never tried opiates before ; but...)

5) About your tramadol is it the extended realease form ? (tramadol retard,...)

Answer please these questions before increase your dose and I will give you a feedback
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okay i appreciate the answers guys,

1) I do a CWE and drink the codeine
2) I had the tramadol while on 2 seroquels (quiteapanine[sp?]) which is anti-anxiety at that dose but higher its an antipsychotic, I had the codeine while on an antidepressant and xanax but didnt think there was an interaction there? (btw im only on the seroquel now, ive got off the antidep and benzo)
3)answered ^
4)no i havent im a beginner
5)all i know about the trams are that they arent fake, and they were 50mg capsules (green/yellow)

btw i looked up the interaction between tram and seroquel and the only thing i found was that it lowered the seizure threshold for people that are prone to seizures
 
I created a couple of threads about codeine use and a couple of people said 400mg is the ceiling. 60mg does me, hits me fine, but I tried a 120mg through a CWE and it didn't feel as good as the 60mg dose.

Maybe its just down to biological structure?
 
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Mysterie said:
okay i appreciate the answers guys,

1) I do a CWE and drink the codeine
2) I had the tramadol while on 2 seroquels (quiteapanine[sp?]) which is anti-anxiety at that dose but higher its an antipsychotic, I had the codeine while on an antidepressant and xanax but didnt think there was an interaction there? (btw im only on the seroquel now, ive got off the antidep and benzo)
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Most likely the Seroquel. Anti-psychotics will fuck up an opiate high because it blocks dopamine. Don't take the Seroquel next time. Try the same doses you took last time without the Seroquel and see what happens. Maybe slightly higher doses like 200mg Codeine or 200mg Tramadol.
 
If you did a CWE on Tylenol 1s or another pill with caffeine and 8mg of codeine, I find the caffeine content overpowers the opiate high.

Some people just don't get high off of tramadol.

Try 15-20mg of oxycodone and see what happens.
 
I did it on Nurofen +

but ill prbly try upping the doses a bit and trying them again after stopping seroquel

thanks for answers :)
 
Mysterie said:
okay i appreciate the answers guys,

1) I do a CWE and drink the codeine
2) I had the tramadol while on 2 seroquels (quiteapanine[sp?]) which is anti-anxiety at that dose but higher its an antipsychotic, I had the codeine while on an antidepressant and xanax but didnt think there was an interaction there? (btw im only on the seroquel now, ive got off the antidep and benzo)
3)answered ^
4)no i havent im a beginner
5)all i know about the trams are that they arent fake, and they were 50mg capsules (green/yellow)

btw i looked up the interaction between tram and seroquel and the only thing i found was that it lowered the seizure threshold for people that are prone to seizures
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Of course Xanax lowered the opiates effects !!!!
Be carefull : Quetiapine is ABSOLUTELY not recommended to combine with tramadol :

http://www.drugs.com/drug-interactions/seroquel-with-tramadol-1979-1274-2221-0.html

There is much less interaction between seroquel and codeine (it is safer)

Stay at first with codeine to feel a good buzz, i think it will be clearly better for you than tramadol

Now the good dosage (please if you take xanax what is your dosage ?)

Anyway, supposing a standard medical dosage : don't go over 0.5mg xanax, 0mg is the best !


you can try 300mg codeine with absolutely no problem !!! ( a lot of people suggest you 200-250 mg , it is a very good advice but as you take a benzo you can easy go to 300 mg (I'm "benzofan" I know what I'm talking about benzo))

e.g. crush 10 (30mg/500mg) pills and used CWE (at the final you won't really have 300mg due to lost, it is normal)

10 acetaminophen/ codeine (500/30mg) pills or 15 (400/20mg) pills are perfect

You can mix your codeine extract (very bitter) with white grappfruit juice (but absolutely not necessary, it is a small add on) to a bit potentiate a little the mixture ! AND ENJOY

SHARE WITH US YOUR FEELING, because you will feel something great !!!!:):):)

If you can avoid to mix xanax and seroquel during your codeine experiment it will be better again !!]

If you really want to stay on tramadol avoid absolutely seroquel, but as I said : --> try first with codeine you won't be disapointed

General note : don't mix tramadol and codeine it is not better
 
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k'd-out-in-az said:
most likely the seroquel. Anti-psychotics will fuck up an opiate high because it blocks dopamine. Don't take the seroquel next time. Try the same doses you took last time without the seroquel and see what happens. Maybe slightly higher doses like 200mg codeine or 200mg tramadol.
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very good advice !
 
danceofdays said:
If you did a CWE on Tylenol 1s or another pill with caffeine and 8mg of codeine, I find the caffeine content overpowers the opiate high.

Some people just don't get high off of tramadol.

Try 15-20mg of oxycodone and see what happens.
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Don't try oxy stay on codeine at first !!!! no need to advice to go with hard opiates :X
 
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benzofan said:
Of course Xanax lowered the opiates effects !!!!
Be carefull : Quetiapine is ABSOLUTELY not recommended to combine with tramadol :

http://www.drugs.com/drug-interactions/seroquel-with-tramadol-1979-1274-2221-0.html

There is much less interaction between seroquel and codeine (it is safer)

Stay at first with codeine to feel a good buzz, i think it will be clearly better for you than tramadol

Now the good dosage (please if you take xanax what is your dosage ?)

Anyway, supposing a standard medical dosage : don't go over 0.5mg xanax, 0mg is the best !


you can try 300mg codeine with absolutely no problem !!! ( a lot of people suggest you 200-250 mg , it is a very good advice but as you take a benzo you can easy go to 300 mg (I'm "benzofan" I know what I'm talking about benzo))

e.g. crush 10 (30mg/500mg) pills and used CWE (at the final you won't really have 300mg due to lost, it is normal)

10 acetaminophen/ codeine (500/30mg) pills or 15 (400/20mg) pills are perfect

You can mix your codeine extract (very bitter) with white grappfruit juice (but absolutely not necessary, it is a small add on) to a bit potentiate a little the mixture ! AND ENJOY

SHARE WITH US YOUR FEELING, because you will feel something great !!!!:):):)

If you can avoid to mix xanax and seroquel during your codeine experiment it will be better again !!]

If you really want to stay on tramadol avoid absolutely seroquel, but as I said : --> try first with codeine you won't be disapointed

General note : don't mix tramadol and codeine it is not better
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I read heaps on this website that Xanax potentiates Oxycontin is it only for Oxy & not Codeine? I know their both Opiates but different whats the word?
 
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