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Don't do 2ci

sometimes ill shiver when im not cold. it happens at parties. i blame 2c-i for this.. my body KNOWS it was the 2c-i abuse.
 
I had a bit of a binge on 2C-I a couple months ago, and I can speak to it having lingering effects.

Mostly just visual effects, and they seem to me more prominent just after I wake up, and right before I go to sleep...

It's been a couple months now since I've used it and they've mostly gone away though, so I'm not too worried about...it's not like they were much of a problem anyway.

I've never heard of anybody getting stuck in a thought loop post trip though...
 
n3wt said:
I had a bit of a binge on 2C-I a couple months ago
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Could you share your experience - what sort of doses/frequency were you doing, and for how long? How much tolerance (if any) did you notice, and has it gone away? Has it qualitatively changed how you experience psychedelics?

Back on topic:

2C-I definitely has more of a tendency to produce lingering symptoms than most psychedelics (though i've yet to find one that doesn't, after tripping weekly for a few weeks). IME, 2C's in general are worse than tryptamines or LSD in this regard, and 2C-I is the worst of them. They go away after a few weeks or months at most.

But, that's not a reason to not use them - just something you have to take into consideration when you do.
 
Assphace said:
respect the chem, respect yourself.
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Excellent advice. Sorry to hear of the troubles you had/are having. Take a nice long break from all psychedelics, including weed, and get lots of rest and exercise. You should be ok. From now on just don't over do it, be responsible, get a scale if you don't have one (.001g), and make sure you take time off in between trips if you choose to indulge again. imo i'd say at least 2 weeks. even though you don't have to wait that long for tolerance or anything its best to give you body and mind time to recuperate. Hope you start to feel better. :)
 
I feel like a lot of people in here are kind of being harsh on the op because they might personally like 2c-i

sorry if your having problems dude. have you ever talked to a professional or been diagnosed with anything?
 
<quote>Could you share your experience - what sort of doses/frequency were you doing, and for how long? How much tolerance (if any) did you notice, and has it gone away? Has it qualitatively changed how you experience psychedelics? </quote>

Basically I was dosing whenever I had time alone. Sometimes every day, most times say 4 times a week. Sometimes redosing in the same day. I was generally dosing in the 20mg range, but near the end I was upping the dose bit by bit every time, getting as high as 40mg which was a terrible experience and I haven't used it since.

Tolerance build up was noticeable, but not so noticeable that I couldn't just up the dosage a bit to overcome it. The lingering aftereffects are basically just mild visual distortions. (Seeing shadows climb up things, stationary patterns appearing to move etc.) I've noticed that when I'm about to go to sleep or just waking up I get very intense CEVs, almost as strong as when I was on the drug, though those have been fading recently.

I haven't taken another phen since I stopped taking 2C-I so I can't comment on that, I have taken a tryptamine (4-aco-dmt) and it doesn't seem to affect the lingering effects from the 2C-I, I was afraid it might intensify them but that thankfully hasn't been the case.
 
I also want to put a warning about 2c-i. I used it about 7 times all up and the first 5 times were very good! Some slightly trippy and one night was very much close to a MDMA experience that lasted 10 hours ( I WAS LIKE - WHAT - THIS DRUG IS AMAZING ) - the 6th time I tried it I was not having anything trippy and then out of no-where this religious ( I hate to use the term religious, but it sure felt it ) was telling me about INCARNATION and then I ran to my uni - opened the door and something told me to look at the picture of the Indian Flag, so I did.... the only instance of "hallucination" was watching Ashoka Chakra, a 24-spoke wheel SPIN in such a profound way - forever - and also going in and out! This came with great revelations and I do not exaggerate, but it felt like it was the GOD-I-AM moment. The final trip I had - well that was a total breakdown of my reality and I think I should hide what it showed me and I just hope it was a delusion, but it felt so real... and the impossible was shown!
 
It all is what you make of it.
The things that you listed seem like pretty common thought patterns of human beings. It's all in how you interpret these thoughts. If you keep on overthinking the fact that you overthink, then it'll just be a continuous negative cycle. Ask yourself: Why does overthinking have to be a bad thing? It's better than not thinking enough, right?
 
n3wt said:
<quote>Could you share your experience - what sort of doses/frequency were you doing, and for how long? How much tolerance (if any) did you notice, and has it gone away? Has it qualitatively changed how you experience psychedelics? </quote>

Basically I was dosing whenever I had time alone. Sometimes every day, most times say 4 times a week. Sometimes redosing in the same day. I was generally dosing in the 20mg range, but near the end I was upping the dose bit by bit every time, getting as high as 40mg which was a terrible experience and I haven't used it since.

Tolerance build up was noticeable, but not so noticeable that I couldn't just up the dosage a bit to overcome it. The lingering aftereffects are basically just mild visual distortions. (Seeing shadows climb up things, stationary patterns appearing to move etc.) I've noticed that when I'm about to go to sleep or just waking up I get very intense CEVs, almost as strong as when I was on the drug, though those have been fading recently.


I haven't taken another phen since I stopped taking 2C-I so I can't comment on that, I have taken a tryptamine (4-aco-dmt) and it doesn't seem to affect the lingering effects from the 2C-I, I was afraid it might intensify them but that thankfully hasn't been the case.
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That is some heavy 2C-I use - how long did you do that for before stopping?

Just remembered - On one occasion when i was tripping on a 2C (usually 2C-I) every week, I woke up, and saw dots moving along the edge of a bookcase at the other side of the room. They looked real, and persisted for ~20-30 seconds before fading out. They looked real enough that I wondered if there were bugs on the bookcase, but they weren't moving like bugs, so i quickly realized it wasn't real. That was strange. Never happened again.
 
yo op if you had all those problems on 2c-i maybe drugs aint for you man seriously stick with the pot and if smoking weed is causeing problems like the 2c-i is mentally stay sober the high of life is better then any drug ....sometimes lol..but yea man maybe your body is feeling poisoned due too a harsh synth or reaction or maybe your brain overloaded sounds like you have some anxiety and social issues you know how to overcome that be yourself!!!! and dont be scared to speak your thoughts no matter how outrageous they are.Most of the crazy people i know don't write on the internet and they are in there 20's and older,sounds too me like your worried about nothing man speak the thoughts or just stay sober im sure you smoke pot daily if thats correct take a break workout have some sex yell at people !!
 
"a lot" of 2c-i is a kilogram of 2c-i, or at least that is what i picture to the "a lot".... There is a substantial amount of 2c-i in a matter of grams, but its not a lot. But i mean its like saying someone has "a lot" of coke with like an 8th.... Go watch Scarface or Blow, that would be a lot.

because any less than that is pretty easily sourceable by anyone with a decent attention span and a little capital.

And if you could do multiple grams of 2c-i in a short timeframe and not be a little bit off.... someone should give you a medal.

Maybe this thread should be "Don't Abuse 2c-i"
 
TheAzo said:
That is some heavy 2C-I use - how long did you do that for before stopping?

Just remembered - On one occasion when i was tripping on a 2C (usually 2C-I) every week, I woke up, and saw dots moving along the edge of a bookcase at the other side of the room. They looked real, and persisted for ~20-30 seconds before fading out. They looked real enough that I wondered if there were bugs on the bookcase, but they weren't moving like bugs, so i quickly realized it wasn't real. That was strange. Never happened again.
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Maybe a month and a half? And yeah it was excessive, I was starting to treat it like a toy...until it kicked my ass. They say 2C-I doesn't have mental effects, but I can vouch for the fact that at 40mg I didn't know shit from fuck. My gf had to look after me, and she was not impressed. I've never felt terror like that, there's no other way to describe it, just terror and the certainty that I was going to die...even if I wasn't aware of anything I had to be afraid of or why exactly I was going to die.
 
nearjat said:
This is just from tripping too much...a lot of people "like" these effects. That's really unhealthy IMO. Just let go, stop trying to fight it and definitely dont do any more drugs until you feel okay again.

2C-I specifically seems to trigger persistent psychedelic effects when its abused MUCH more than other substances.

This WILL go away, just let it happen. Don't freak out too much about this, it's not uncommon. But it's not good either so just take it easy man. Much love.

What this dude is describing doesn't seem to mirror the positive after effects people describe from tripping, this isn't one of those constructive things. But it totally can be if he honestly works to better it.

"I found myself falling to madness so I dove, the best thing I ever did was let go"
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oh my gosh! you quote that song-- i just googled that quote and that song is amaaaaaaazing. the entire thing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-YaV3fcxLEk
 
You should never say 'don't do this or that' because your experiences don't always mean everone will have the same experience. Especially with psychedelics. I haven't tried the 2C-x drugs myself, I'd love to, they're illegal in the UK
 
Mayve it's the dose?

Besides if you did it a lott in a short period of time, this can be dangerous, it's stil a research chemical.

May I ask with age you are?
 
just a quickie.....I got into exactly the same headspace-fuck that the op is describing about 10 years ago. This was following 10 years of regular (3-4 times a month) partying. 6 years just acid, no probs, 2 further years + pills, not too bad but the dancing, which is what it was all about for me, stopped (damn that empathy / chatting!!!!, then a further 2 years + weed and eventually skunk. I died 3 times on skunk, no seriously - immense whiteys, after the last of which a friend (of mature years, experienced drug user and first aider) was about to give me CPR. Shortly after that I moved away from the scene and had 6 months of voices / repetetive thought patterns / paranoia, the lot...very out of control mind and scary as f*ck!!

For me different folks have different 'heads'. I watch friends smoke skunk like it's going out of fashion having a breeze. I touch it and life just gets bad. However, I love psychs and have never experienced any direct problem with them, but can see where the claims of weed causing psychosis comes from. I've got a friend who smokes skunk happily but would rather burn his eyes out with a hot needle than take psychs - different strokes....
So, to the OP, I know it feels like it's going on forever, but it won't (probably ;) - relax, get on with life, stay away from drugs till you are over it, wiser and older :)

ok, not so quick - apologies x
 
I have actually heard this from local people, many people have stopped consuming the 2c chemicals as they feel that they screw around with peoples heads more than the typical LSD/Shrooms. I think it's due to it being cheaper and more widely available via RC sites, so it is consumed more regularly and passively. Similar to how mephedrone was, when it was legal.
 
I have actually heard this from local people, many people have stopped consuming the 2c chemicals as they feel that they screw around with peoples heads more than the typical LSD/Shrooms. I think it's due to it being cheaper and more widely available via RC sites, so it is consumed more regularly and passively. Similar to how mephedrone was, when it was legal.
 
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