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Need some advice... Possible OD on Oxycodone

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yo0123yo

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Ok guys, my brother 22 has been taking klonopin for about 4 years for GAD, also taking xanax throughout the days, daily for a few months or so a few years back, he also has been taking opiates, mostly vicodin for a while now. Recently he has been getting Oxys, and took oxycodones, klonopins, and maybe a few vicodins. After he took all this I was watching him and he started falling asleep while doing stuff and was not in bed. I was waking him up and telling him if he is going to go to sleep to actually go on his bed and sleep normally. He tried arguing it that he wasn't tired and went to do something, I then turn around and he is asleep with his mouth open and one eye partially open. I woke him up and told him this, and he got up, walked a bit while itching his face ALOT, walked over about 10 feet to another bed and fell right down and went to sleep in a VERY uncomfortable/unusual position with one eye partially open again. I woke him up almost immediately again. He got up and walked to the bathroom, I heard the sink go on for NOT even 1 second and thats unusual, the door was open so I went in there, he was asleep with his hands on the counter, I woke him up and he looked around and started itching his face for a good 25 seconds or even more. I said something which got his attention and he came out of the bathroom, closed his eyes and started walking. While he was walking (asleep) he hit in to a few things and I did hear him say "ow" a few times. The next day (today) when he woke up, he complained of pain in several places. I tried talking him into stopping and not doing any more Oxy's or anything in that strong class of a drug or any at all. He laughed and thought this was very humurous. I had videotaped most of what he was doing yesterday while he was messed up and doing that stupid shit. I showed it to him, but I guess he is not thinking or doesnt get that he got away very luckily from a OD like I was trying to explain to him. What do you guys think about this whole situation? Also today he said he took 8 Norcos 10/325mg's, and 1 30mg Oxy and says he did not feel anything from the Norcos because of the high tolerance. Also he smokes marijuana heavily.
 
In general, opiates and benzos aren't a good mix. I've had quite a few friends die that way. Smarten up and steer your little brother from that mix.
 
That is the thing tho, I, and other people have tried steering him out of that direction and he somehow makes it into a joke or funny thing which steers himself back into taking all that. He's also had a close call on Methadone, I was driving home on the highway and he told me to keep track of what mile marker we were at just incase we had to call an ambulance, also forgot that we were just coming back FROM work.... The other thing is that is my oldest brother.
 
tis a very tricky and i would guess frustrating worrysome situation. i can't really relate to your situation but i could imagine what options i would have if i were in your situation. so i'll say what i would do but that is only what i would do lol....firstly though do you live in the same house and are there parents there as well or do you share a flat or are you just staying with him for a while?

also where he lives is it legal to have that many perscriptions of the stuff he takes? does he do it on a daily bases or is it just these two days your worried about?

actually i'm not going to suggest anything until you reply back lol because otherwise i would be guessing even more.
 
yup, same house With parents. and it IS illegal to have those without prescription. and he has been taking vicodin and klonopin for quite alot of time now, the oxycodone has been about atleast once a day for the past week, as he has been sleeping the weird way like i was describing like that for about the past week. It is weird because whenever he is normal and goes to sleep, he always takes his glasses off... recently he has been sleeping with his glasses on OR in his hand, also last time he had a clementine in his hand and fell asleep while sitting up while peeling the clementine... looked VERYY weird.
 
also another thing that i forgot to mention is that, if he has vicodin or oxycodone, and he takes them, it motivates him to actually go to work. If he doesnt have an opiate, that makes him not goto work and just stick around at the house being very lazy...

he has BASICALLY been going in and out of consciousness as i had described, i explained all this to him, and I guess he likes the way that feels or something.
 
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Sounds to me like your brother is an opiate addict, whether you or him realize it or not yet. One of the major giveaways is that he finds motivation to do things like go to work when he's on them. When a person first abuses opiates they will for the most part sit around and not move bc they are in their own little itchy scratchy world. After long term abuse, opiates have a somewhat reverse effect where they give you the energy that you need to do every day things (like go to work, write a paper for class) and when you don't have them you can't do those regular every day things because of withdrawals (physical and mental). Not all opiate addicts NEED rehab, what they need is MOTIVATION to stop and a REALIZATION that its not the real world they are living in when loaded with pk's every day. I'd have a serious talk with your bro because it only gets worse. Not to mention, benzos (xanax) and opiates can be a deadly combination if he doesn't know what he is doing.
 
if it was me and you all live with your parents...if talking to him doesn't do anything then i would tell the parents however this will most likely compromise your relationship with him and do you think your parents will be able to help? if not then maybe not tell them. you could take them off him, though again this will damage your relationship with him.....i guess the main issue (aside from the damage he is doing to his body) is why is he adicted to it? is he depressed in some way? no friends to go out with? or something?.....or maybe try and blackmail him some how and say if you don't straighten out you'll tell your parents.....or tell him to come to this site and read up on how much damage he is doing to his body. but i guess you also have to pick the right moment too like maybe trying to show him the video of himself when he is straight....he mustn't be too happy about his life at the moment though if he just wants to not be in reality all the time

realistically there is only so much you can do for a person to help them...they really need to see for themselves what they are doing to themselves and want to care and help themselves get back on track

have you tried telling him how what he is doing to himself is effecting you and how worried you are?
 
Not being funny or anything but you should of just let the poor fucker sleep!

What he took was a cocktail of sleepy drugs, he was extremely tired not Od'ing...

Drugs are bad sure and you should help him....but put the video camera down, and try just putting a pillow under his head and a blanket over him next time aye?
 
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Not being funny or anything but you should of just let the poor fucker sleep!

What he took was a cocktail of sleepy drugs, he was extremely tired not Od'ing...

Drugs are bad sure and you should help him....but put the video camera down, and try just putting a pillow under his head and a blanket over him next time aye?
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well idk how you think someone falling asleep IN a bathroom trying to simply wash their face or even sleeping WHILE sitting up and eating a sandwhich is normal for someone to do when their tired. I know I NEVER did that in my life... I dont know how you sleep... but thats ABNORMAL over here.. not trying to be funny either..
 
yo0123yo said:
and also I know he wasnt just tired because he was only doing that the day(s) he took the oxys, so it had something to do with them forsure.
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Of course they did, it's what I said.....

When you are extremly tired you can do things like fall asleep.....Even without drugs, eg. has no-one ever woke you up when you fell asleep watching a late night movie? Or you've spent too long on the computer, you wake up on the keyboard, try and carry on doing what your doing for a while, it loops until you wake up enough to go to bed.

Drugs like opiates are central nervous system depressants, which means they slow down your brain functions, it doesn't make many people tired though, myself included, but add a few of the benzos he has (klonopins and xanax), combined with general stress, and lack of sleep, he's going to be tired....

The term "stumbling off to bed".... Walking down the hallway bouncing off the left and right walls alternatively until you do a full 360 degree turn when your shoulder hits the door frame, followed by a quick arm on the dresser, as you fully lose balance and then push off to land half on the bed, half slouched on the floor...

See the thing about drugs and being tired, is many times you can remain partially coherant, I can't tell you how many times I've fallen asleep whilst trying to do things, eating a sandwhich certainly at least once or twice in my lifetime....alcohol is a shocker for it, never been so drunk you fell asleep in a taxi home, when you get through your door your more tired than normal as part of you is still asleep...and commences the 'stumbling off to......' maybe the fridge for a sandwich or the kettle for a coffee, but while it's boiling your asleep leaning on the sink.


Exploration with drugs is natural, just using drugs here and there doesn't mean that person has to be an addict....be carefull you aren't blowing it out of proportion, it's probably why he finds it funny when you say you think he may have a problem, when in reality he may just be having a bad couple of weeks. Some people may have a neat scotch, others may have a joint, others will pop a pill and so on, it's natural...
Search bluelight for signs of addiction, and distinguish between casual drug use and where there may be a problem...
 
i dont agree with him.

its a bit abusive if your taking so many to the point of passing out as your walking.
and doing it daily makes it even worse.

My brother did the same crap
except he added meth and bi-polar meds he was on with all the rest of his opiates.
and he also smokes marijuana very heavily

i mean, honestly theres nothing you can do to stop him...which you probably know already
but as long as he knows you support and care for him.
and he will just run his course..
its shitty to see your brother like that, i must say.
but mine luckily passed through all that bull.

Goodluck to you and your brother!
 
When I've done drugs to the point that your brother did, my parents called 911, I ended up in an ambulance, having no memory of anything that happened. that is the point where you don't use to have fun or use recreationally, youre using to cover emotional pain, memories, you have a problem. I think this guy need some help.
 
yo0123yo said:
anyone else agree with this guy?
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What I'm confused about, is the other threads you've started are from a frequent user, apparently anyway...In one you make a clear statement that xanax or something makes you very tired, and you seem to grasp the concept of tiredness + drugs.....in another you make reference to using 150mg of oxy on "a daily basis"

So what's this one really about?
 
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