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oh no!! the magic??

ugh im mad :[[
I had my birthday at the beginning of the month and that night was the best and ive just been chasing that high trying to roll as hard as a did that night and its never been successful i mean im still having a good time but like you said its like wtf i could be rolling way harder... Ive prolly rolled like 9 times since the beginning of december but 4 diff nights. Spaced em out poorly the first 2 back to back and the next 2 waiting 2 weeks and did the next 2 rolls less than a week apart. Lol i fail :\ but extacy is my favorite drug and ive done like every drug and ive never had a "user dream" on any other drug but x. Its hard for me to walk away from... and like i said i dont get the cracked out feeling as much as i used to or it is much more pleasant than it used to be or i just got used to the feeling of coming down. The only thing that really happens is my head gets a little spaced out and i get a slight form of depression cause im not up anymore :[

I completely agree, I've tried many drugs (crack/cocaine, meth, amps, oxy's, weed, and ecstasy) and NOTHING is as amazing as some really good rolls... Not even meth, that's supposed to be one of the best highs... I've heard heroin beats Ecstasy by far, but I think much too highly of myself to ever touch that shit... Don't know why I did meth, only did it once and it wasn't as good as it sounded...
 
ive done h and to me it doesnt compare to x but ppl are different got diff DOC...
never slammed it so idk just railed it so maybe not?
 
Who knows but really people all this talk about "losing the magic this and yada yada... we know you took a lot of illz and then ...

How long can we really retain "the magic" in any circumstances? Is Christmas the same for you? Is it possible that rolling is a lot like Santa Claus?
 
Im a lil bit new on this forum and I just had a lil answer but I think it can be useful..
I think that our head can beat all the feeling given by almost anything, if you believe strongly that you have lost the magic, youve lost it. Maybe Im wrong but that s my feeling. Excuse my bad english xD
 
eh, i took a 4 month break before i had another "honey-moon" period and i can say that i was rolling hard as shit and it was really euphoric and mind blowing. I just hate waiting 4 months.... I also went a little over-board this time as the first time i started I was just eating a pill every weekend for about 3-4 weekends, then quit. I just hope i can roll hard off 1 pill like i used too..
 
my legs are killing me from stomping the other day and my right side of my face on my cheek was hurting so bad with this sharp pain last night that i just had to go to sleep it was that bad. I feel alright today just hella spaced-out..
 
Who knows but really people all this talk about "losing the magic this and yada yada... we know you took a lot of illz and then ...

How long can we really retain "the magic" in any circumstances? Is Christmas the same for you? Is it possible that rolling is a lot like Santa Claus?

I agree with this and have said it many times on here. I don't believe in loss of magic with ecstasy. And just to clarify, by loss of magic, I'm just talking about people who say it just isn't the same anymore, not abuse. I just think every experience overtime has the ability to lose excitement. Alcohol, weed, mushrooms, acid... every drug I have ever done seemed more epic when I first started doing it. I've been rolling for 10 years, and have abused it and recovered twice, and today I enjoy rolling more than I ever have. Is it as intense as it first was? No, but the experience has changed and it still feels great. I appreciate it in a much different way.

I think it's sad when people who are new to rolling are so concerned with "losing magic" right away. Imagine how much having that in your head would fuck with your rolls.
 
true that, i always phyche myself out when i pop a tab always thinking man this shits bunk its been 2 hours wtffffffffff. Until finally it hits me and i go nuts. Or some other times it never hits cause i keep saying its bunk but im actually up as shit but no euphoria cause i keep thinking its bunk. Idk its wierd. Such a mental drug and set & setting play a huge part..
 
for me, it felt like this: after I ate molly that night, I started feeling fucked up. But only teeth clenching and eyes rolling, and obviously a fucked up feeling in my head. All I wanted was more molly, and I felt pissed off and frustrated that I didn't/couldn't feel good. I was not even enjoying myself, and I kept telling myself "there is nothing magic about this feeling right now". No happiness or empathy, just a craving for more so that I could roll even though I knew in the back of my head taking more would only make me feel more 'fucked up', not the insane euphoria I used to feel after consuming mdma. Basically it sucked, you never want to lose the magic.
 
true that, i always phyche myself out when i pop a tab always thinking man this shits bunk its been 2 hours wtffffffffff. Until finally it hits me and i go nuts. Or some other times it never hits cause i keep saying its bunk but im actually up as shit but no euphoria cause i keep thinking its bunk. Idk its wierd. Such a mental drug and set & setting play a huge part..

Very true. Trust me when I say that if you forget about losing the magic and space your rolls out, you will be able to enjoy them for a very long time. It's been ten years for me, and I know BearLove has been enjoying his for much longer.
 
MDMA is a drug, and there is no "really" much so-called "lost magic" going on. Its simple - your brain is out of chemicals called serotonin(the one of those that MDMA releases), your brain cells are damaged, receptors downregulated. Its actualy a big-big story. If you are interested google MDMA,serotonin,dopamine,receptors. You will find many interesting things there.Cuz people who know how drugs work, will almost never hurt themselfs IMO.
 
I definately lost the magic.
The first two times I rolled were awsome, pure magical.
Now when I roll I love it and its still awsome, but in the back of my head im always like...
"wow im definitely not rollin as hard as those first two times.."

Maybe its bad pills? smaller dose? idk I just think I lost the magic but its really not that huge of a deal for me I still enjoy rolling
 
Well at first I thought you had just started rolling on December 6th, so I thought you just were depleting your serotonin excessively by taking all of those rolls in one night so close together. lol Not a good idea either way, mi amigo...let your brain recover hahaha.

Did you binge over the summer like you did this month? If so, it's not impossible that you may have already lost the magic because it's possible for some people to lose their magic in as little as 10 rolls though this isn't common. However, i'm 95% sure i've already lost the magic which i noticed after an EIGHT MONTH BREAK (unless you want to count the 2 times i got piped in may, or maybe april that same year, then it's a 4 month break or so). All of my rolls since i rolled after the eight month break have been just the rolling feeling, no euphoria, sociability, loved-up goodness aka the "OH MY GOD I LOVE YOU SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!!!!!!" with the most serious look on your face, practically sad looking because you're so DAMN LOVED UP....sorry, nostalgia. But yeah, back to my story (quickly). I first rolled in august 08 (which was a low-med mdma/something else), and i didn't roll again till winter break (so the last two weeks of december...after christmas, so the last week and a half or so) when i rolled about 3 or 4 times and rolled every friday and saturday normally taking at least 2 no more than 3 though(they're mints so they're strong) but on one occasion I stupidly took 6 mints in over the course of like 7 - 9 hours, stupidly (and pointlessly) redosing.

Anyway, moral of the story is you can lose the magic quickly like i did though it's unlikely.....oh, and don't binge....ever (or anymore to the OP). As for when you took a 2 week break and didn't feel any euphoria, MDMA is a mood ENHANCER....yes the most common feeling is that beautiful euphoria, but set and setting still are key just like every psychedelic or drug even (Ever get piss drunk and get really angry or start crying randomly or easily? yes, alcohol is a drug). You were in a car with people arguing, obviously not a good setting which could affect your roll. The time you rolled after that could be due to two reasons: 1.) too close together and 2.) i'm not 100% on this, but tolerance may be an issue and you took less rolls than the time just 5 days before that.

So my advice to you is: take a long, long break...as long as you can, give it 6 months at least, exercise, eat healthy, vitamins, blah blah blah, and when you DO roll, take piracetam and choline bitartrate at least 3 days before you roll, preferably a week, and the day on your roll as well...this all should help loads and the last bit of advice should help TREMENDOUSLY. If it doesn't work, I'm sorry to say, but you lost the magic.

Peace and love, man. Be safe and have fun! =D
 
I lost the magic one time with extasy, but then I had my first MDMA crystals, and it was like the first time all over again, that was only a one time occasion too though
 
I always imagined that losing the magic would leave one with a speedy, hyper feeling but no sensory enhancement or empathy when taking E. Haven't experienced it myself, but don't really care to either.

For me, drugs tend to lose their unique "magic" after I learn what to expect from the high. The giddy anticipation during the MDMA comeup and the rush of the peak are half the fun IMO...once you know what's coming, it'll never be the same. :\
 
There's a big difference between gaining a high tolerance and losing the magic. When I was in highschool I sometimes would roll a few times a week, and it just caused me to gain a high tolerance. I was still getting a lot of good effects from mdma, but maybe would have to take a little more and it wasn't as intense as the 1st time or as when I would take a long gap between rolls.

When I lost the magic, all the good effects go away. Even if I take a long break, I still don't get any good effects. I feel f'ed up and all, but all the happy good feelings that I used to get are completely gone.
 
Yeah i started doing it my first time during the summer and binged a good amount back then 1 pill a week for a few weeks. Never rly got as bad into as i did this month lol. I feel like im ready to roll again but i should prolly wait a good while.
 
I been rollin every weekend for the last 3 years straight, without missing a weekend. The magic dissappeared. Haven't done it in 4 months untill last weekend and it still wasn't that great. I heard it takes a solid year off to return to normal to feel the magic again.
 
I definately lost the magic.
The first two times I rolled were awsome, pure magical.
Now when I roll I love it and its still awsome, but in the back of my head im always like...
"wow im definitely not rollin as hard as those first two times.."

Maybe its bad pills? smaller dose? idk I just think I lost the magic but its really not that huge of a deal for me I still enjoy rolling

See, this right here is why I don't like the concept. You "lost the magic" after two rolls? I'm sorry, but I just can't believe that. The first few times, it was just new so it seemed more epic. The end.
 
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