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oh no!! the magic??

Couldnt of said it better than the 5 posters above me, the term "Losing the Magic", does not exist in the UK, pop over to EADD once in a while and you may notice. Ive seen over the past few months people getting literally obsessed with this term and using it like it means something. "Did I lose my magic, will i ever get my magic back"?

Basically the first time you use MDMA it is good, the next few times are nothing like your first time ever, if you begin using it frequently you will have a greater tolerance and not as much seratonin will be released compared to the first few times.

Theres no magic involved, just chemistry...
 
Houdini!!!!! :p

Anyways... I think the mistake that newcomers to mdma make is that they always expect there next roll to be exactly like there first one.. Or if they take a pill and it gives them an "amazing" roll, they expect the same roll with the same pill... No.. it doesn't work like this. If you keep on expecting your next roll to be as good as your first one, then your next roll isn't going to be good at all.. taking mdma isn't just about taking chemicals into your body.. there's a mental side to it also.

i.e. the first time i rolled.. omg I was rolllllllllllllling balls for 6 hours.. the 2nd time I rolled I sort of expected to be like the first one but I ended up only rolling for like 3 hours, that kind of killed my roll, even though it was an amazing roll, because since I was expecting 6 hours and only got 3, that made me kind of sad :(.. well not really but you get the point.. don't hold expectations for your pillows~
 
I do know what people mean with the phrase magic - the chances of 'losing it' after 5 rolls is impossible though.

In simple speak - You need a certain amount of serotonin to roll properly (with magic) it takes a certain amount of time for your 'brain to refill' to the magic level before you can roll properly again.

If you don’t allow enough time your not going to have a magical roll - if you continue to roll without allowing your brain to refill the amount of serotonin your brain can hold may reduce over time and this is when problems like depression and memory loss can appear.

If your not rolling properly (and have not started medication etc) then the chances are you need a break and you need to take bigger gaps between uses.

(I did say simple speak so dont chew my ear off for saying brain refill etc:D)
 
All I can say is that Ive lost the magic many times in the past. The ways I get over it are by either taking enough to cause the release of seretonin, or just abstaining from using for a month or two. I know not everyones the same, but it works for me. best of luck to you :)
 
psilocybinsane said:
All I can say is that Ive lost the magic many times in the past. The ways I get over it are by either taking enough to cause the release of seretonin, or just abstaining from using for a month or two. I know not everyones the same, but it works for me. best of luck to you :)
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Can you lose the magic multiple times? Isn't the concept that rolling is never the same for you again?

This is why I don't like the way this term is just thrown around. What does it even mean anymore?
 
foxyloxy55 said:
Can you lose the magic multiple times? Isn't the concept that rolling is never the same for you again?

This is why I don't like the way this term is just thrown around. What does it even mean anymore?
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I think people are forming an OCD trait with this "magic" thing.

Perhaps MDMA is responsible for OCD as well.
 
Lost the magic?

So I've "lost the magic" a long time ago and finally realized I'd never catch that sensation like the first few times rollin' after months of blaming it on bad pills, yada yada. Well, tonight I tried "Molly" or powdered MDMA. I'm not much a fan of downy substances but a friend of mine gave me a tenth or more and I said wth, and ate it. I didn't think I'd feel much of anything....:\

Well to my complete and utter surprise I actually started to feel it:), started to feel good...ate a tad bit more, 40 minutes later I was rolling again<3! It was nothing like the first time, but I actually felt great, could rub my head and it felt great, light shows were orgasmic, the bass made me melt, I was so shocked and elated at the same time. (oh yeah I forgot to mention we went to a small local dubstep event).

I don't know if it had to do with the environment or the music but I've been before and ate beans/molly (that got everyone else good) and just made me feel crappy:p. So I'm not sure if the magic is back, but if it is, I definitely DEFINITELY will not abuse MDMA like I did in the past. Hopefully this gives hope to anyone else who has "lost the magic". Now, I'm not totally sure if this was MDMA/MDE/MDA or research-chems, but it definitely felt like I ate some high quality beans and the great effects that come with "rolling".

And - this isn't my first attempt in years, I always drop something every few months (last time before this was 3 weeks ago with "molly" and 2 grams just made me miserable, and always...feel nothing off the "product"...I haven't been taking any other type of meds or suppliments - like; cymbalta, zoloft, opiates, or 5htp (which is total BS, GM even says on the site 5htp is really just crappy herbs with no effect) that other people say to take to "replenish" your serotonin.

Has this happened with anyone else? Getting the magic back again? Anyone might have an idea on why it worked this time? Now I know the atmosphere and everything has a lot to do with it but I could have sat in my truck alone and felt ecstatic. The weirdest part is that I've been pretty down and depressed lately and it really really helped me out with that horrible feeling, for the night at least. Anyways, to all who read my whole post, thank you! and please feel free to reply even if you just want to flame on me! :-) Thanks again Blue-Lighters! =D
 
Have another 2-3 month break then make sure you keep up with the breaks, and don't let yourself slip back into the "abuse" zone.

Good to hear you've got the magic back, let the good times roll!!
 
TheTuneOfTurbo said:
...this isn't my first attempt in years, I always drop something every few months (last time before this was 3 weeks ago with "molly" and 2 grams just made me miserable....
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You ate 2 grams of MDMA??? 8o

Yeah getting the magic back after breaks is pretty common. Sure it won't be like your first time, but then this is true for most things in life, even things that are completely unrelated to drugs.
 
MDMAgic's gone?.

I've only taken MDMA three times: 2 months ago, the day after and tonight. The first & second times were absolutely fabulous (although the 2nd one - not as intense), but now - absolutely nothing happened. I pre-loaded with 2000mg of Vitamin C and Green Tea Extract 6 hours before the roll, swallowed a capsule that was supposed to contain 100mg of pure MDMA, aaaaaaand...

Nothing. I did sweat a lot, experienced very minor jaw clenching and my pupils were slightly dilated, but I believe all of this can be attributed to ridiculous amounts of dancing, sweating, and not drinking too much. Oh, and my heart rate never went up like it used to. I would love to say the caps were fake, but I got them from a good friend and I doubt he'd cheat me. So, what is more probable: me fucking everything up by taking MDMA two nights in a row or a friend giving me dud pills? I'm really concerned, because I was looking forward to years upon years of beautiful experiences and can't believe the magic might have disappeared just like that. ='(

Edit: Just had a better look at the mirror, and my puplis really are dilated.

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Maybe it was Amphetamine?

I'd say take another 2 month break, and the next batch of "MDMA" you get, test it. Or if you get beans, check out the regional discussion for your area and check out pill reports if you cannot test.

dancesafe.org
 
Almost sounds like a low dose of pipes to me. I've had pipes that felt like pretty much nothing before and an increased heart rate is a classic pipes effect. Don't be so quick to assume your friend cheated you... he may not have known. There are a lot of garbage pills circulating. You should definitely invest in a test kit... it will save you from many bad nights. They are cheap and well worth the money!

One things for sure: you didn't "lose the magic" already. It definitely doesn't sound like MDMA to me.
 
i doubt u lost it because of the 2 consecutive nights. ive done tht a couple of times and still feel it. prob just a weird batch.
 
This sounds like low quality MDMA.
As much as no one wants to admit it, sometimes you get less than high quality product.
Like foxy said, invest in a test kit. it will save you from buying shit pills again.
Happy Rolls man.
 
you didn't lose the magic, it was most likely bunk molly, maybe it was half mdma/half something else, which means you didn't have nearly enough
 
The pills was probably just shit...everybody seems to say that the pills they have a great whether they have even tried it or not so it's not necessarily true. You will not have built up any tolerance from using it twice 2 months ago.
 
It's also worth pointing out that producing MDMA is not like baking a cake! Apart from the risk of serious explosions, it can be difficult to produce pure MDMA, even if you have the chemical knowledge, pure ingredients and the correct equipment. Quite frequently, the chemist synthesising MDMA, will unintentionally produce something else due to the inferiority of one of the above. It's so easy to get testing kits these days that, unless you're confident in the quality of the product, it's silly not to.
 
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