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Wisdom tooth just taken out - combination of drugs.. not feeling so well...

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bluntedskier

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Alright so I have a very heavy tolerance to benzos (unfortuantely... working on tapering off that over the next couple months). I took my normal 2mg Xanax XR in the morning. Then I took a 60mg Pseudophedrine pill (found them in my cabinet from 2001 when they were legal OTC) and a bunch of coffee, which gives me a great focused, wired, energy for doing work. (I'm trying to stay away from amphetamines).

Then I realized I had an appointment to get a single wisdom tooth out... headed to that, I requested local anesthesia and it went really smoothly surprisingly. Looking like a blood sucking vampire, I went to CVS on the way home and had the prescription for 5-500 hydros filled (I know, the shittiest ones).

Came back home, waited the appropriate time, ate some food, drank lots of water and stuff, then ate two of hydros. And then another single Pseudophedrine 60mg pill, along with more coffee. Started feeling great and got back to my work, music was super nice and I was still able to focus well and be creative even as the Hydros kicked in (I have no opiate tolerance at all). This lasted for a while.

Then.... just a little bit ago, I made the mistake of taking another 5-500 hydro. I know 15mg/1500 of academaphen isn't really shit.... but now all of a sudden I am feeling kinda fucked up, in an uncomfortable, bad way. Feeling a bit sweaty and hot too.

I've been drinking lots of water... but this feeling is not going away and then I found myself starting to worry/panic a bit.

I know mixing opiates+benzos would only make things worse for someone already on a cocktail of drugs normally, but because I physically addicted/dependent to Xanax, I just took a 2mg Xanax XR, with the hope it would make me feel better, since I am due to take my dose around this time, and w/d feelings from Xanax would only make this worse. (I am perscribed 3 x 2mg a day).

I used drugs.com interactions checker... and there is no major interactions for all the drugs I have taken today and recently.

I am sure I am fine, but am I alone at the moment, and felt like hearing from any friendly Bluelighters.

Am I suddenly feeling this way because of the 15mg of Hydro I've taken? I think it must be. I know 15mg is nothing at all for you guys who have tolerances to opiates, but perhaps it was a little too much for my body. My vision is also blurred, like when I turn my head and move around.

I should have nothing to worry about right? And I am assuming that this feeling won't last too long... it's similar to the terrible feeling I once got (but not nearly as bad), when I blew 15mg of Oxy with zero tolerance. I just hope it's not a combination problem.

Just interesting because I was feeling just super from the 10mg hydro + Pseudo + caffeine.

Sorry I probably have just been ranting and talking in circles and all of this will end up being pointless and I should just drink more water and chill out.
 
Do you have any tolerance to opioids? Sounds like you have taken slightly too much, and that plus the stimulation is making it all the more uncomfortable.

I'd just ride it out and dose lower next time. :)
 
yea pseudophedrine is bad news unless you literally cant breath out your nose for shit

but yea it also causes anxiety which mixed with a low opiate tolerance can create a bad time

if you were feeling good why redose?...
 
Yeah thanks for the response... last night was fucked!!! I barely remember even what went on.... except that I was pretty miserable and like nodding off/falling asleep in my chair, on the couch and feeling just horrible. (Getting into my bed finally and falling asleep was amazing though)

This morning (the LAST push!) I have to just revise and submit what I didn't complete last night (due to being all fucked up), and my nose is still sort of runny anyways, so I took 1 last 60mg pseudophedrine tab (considered whether to take it or not during breakfast), bunch of B complex vitamins, my normal 2mg XR xanax, and a good meal in my stomach.

I realize this isn't good stuff to start taking regularly (I'm all out of them anyways, and have no desire to get anymore...) but I feel like it can't be that bad for me, since I am literally just taking 1 pill - as "directed" on the package, unlike the reports I've read of dumb kids taking like 8 of them or something and ending up in the ER....

And to K'd-OUT-in-AZ, regfairfield and Mr Blonde:

Yes - I think you are right and I think re-dosing on both pseudophedrine (for the second time in the day), and taking that extra Hydro in combination was in the end, definitely responsible for last night. Because even back when I was like 16 years old, being stupid and popped four 5-500 Hydros on an empty stomach, for the first time (Yes, face in the toilet all night.. crying... miserable), I still was not the same 'fucked up' as I was last night from just 15mg and a way bigger body weight.

However, I would like to believe that it was definitely taking the 3rd Hydro that set it all off.... because if you think about it, I am really not taking a large amount of pseudo at all - an amount that is often in an average strong, directed dose of cold medication.

AND why redose if I was feeling so good already? Haha, that's a great underlying psychological question that should probably be asked to about every member on this site.... Why do most human brains feel the need for MORE of what is already working for them. Same goes with money, sex... food... so many things. I could see that being an excellent paper prompt for a class.

And to Mr Blonde. Nope. I have no Opiate tolerance at all.... like so low... that several months back I blew approx 4mg (tiniest fragment) of a piece of an OC 30 and I was really high....



Anyways, I am going to get off this site and finish this shit and then head downtown to do some last minute shopping. But I am starting to feel energized and focused again... my tooth isn't hurting that bad (as in I don't actually need to take a hydro), but would throwing just one 5mg Hydro into the mix? To put it in another way, although there is no "known negative interactions", in general should a small amount of Vicdoen/academaphine make you feel worse or better if you are on weak stimulants like pseudo and caffeine? The 10mg seemed to be awesome once again... till I added 5mg more. I just don't want to crash and be all passed out again.

Or am I just asking for more bad feeling. (60 mg pseudo [comes with 2.5mg of tripolidne in it - I am assuming that shit is harmless at that dose], bunch of multivitamens, 2mg Xanax XR and a whole bunch of coffee)

Also being Xmas eve, I just hope this stuff doesn't make me all irritable later on when it wears off and shit.. I guess worst comes to worse, I always have Vallium (and Blue Label to sip on with my father (; ).


Sorry for the rant again, I just wrote this up extremely quick. Thanks !!
 
Turns out you guys are right.... 3rd day of taking this shit... and it's lost it's magic. I understand why it's bad stuff now. Now I just feel slightly shitty, anxious, slight heart palpitations. But I only took 1 Hydro... so I should be fine there.


Stopping the coffee intake and just drinking copious amounts of water.

If I don't feel better/less anxious within the hour, I am probably just going to take my second 2mg xanax XR dose a bit early or 20mg of some Vallium.

Then laying off the drugs (besides Xanax) for a bit.... I'll save the Hydros for another time in the future.

If I am not mistaken, there actually seems to be a bit of study-value to Hydrocodone if taken in a low dose with a mild stimulant like a RedBull?

The only problem is that sounds like a great way to have a very sleepy crash later on.


UPDATE: Well now it's 11:33 and besides being hungry, I am feeling really good and making good progress on my work. I think it is the 5mg of Vicodin kicking in + drinking all that water.

Sort of want to take another Vic after I eat something, but I don't want them to tire me out and crash like I did last night cause I need to be productive all day.
 
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take 2 or 3 if one doesnt work!and drink lots of coffee with them! If that dont work your fkd! Just have to sleep it off and start over tmrw! I take 3 when I wake up and get best buzz of the day! I find myself taking 8 or 10 by 4 pm trying to get that high but cant and jsut waste my hydros! Vetter to pop some xanaxx and sleep it off! opiates are great but also a bitch!!!
 
Yeah man you are right about coffee... even though it's no amphetamine it def increases nervousness and anxiety if you have any issues with it, like i do, in the first place. But since my new years resolution is basically to stay away from Adderall, caffeine and other mild stimulants are at least a step forward to bettering myself. Don't know how or why my brain has changed in recent years (I'm only 22) but for instance, I can't do coke anymore (might have something to do with taking Lithium?) - it makes me feel horrible, not to mention how bad it is for anxiety, and for you in general. I care about my health, so I'm better off without it anyways.

But for some reason, Adderall still is my magic drug. That 4-8 hours of perfect, euphoric bliss where I can accomplish the world. But then the crash, depression and irritability.... that can last for days. Just not worth it. Can't be a stable, successful adult and rely on something like that, if you get those type of side effects, as I do.

So learning to be able to push through hours of work that requires severe patience and continuous creativity without anything but caffeine has been difficult. Cause like you said - too much caffeine and then I get anxious, and when you are anxious, it blocks you from being productive, leading me back to taking more benzos that I normally wouldn't need. A vicious cycle... wish I never was introduced to any pills at all in the first place. Being Christmas Eve and all, I realize how much I really despise pills. There are some - like ones that lower cholesterol for older people and such that are a wonderful life-sustaining gift, but otherwise..... prescription medications have become a huge paradox in my life.

But anyways.... back to Hydros - they are weird with me. Since I don't do Opiates normally and have zero tolerance, taking even just 1 5mg Vicoden, especially along with a small Redbull or tea or something, has me feeling really good after a while and I am clearheaded and energetic etc

But then like, for instance just this evening.... my teeth were still hurting a bit, plus just cause I don't do opiates normally, doesn't mean I am not going to enjoy the little Xmas present the orthopedic surgeon gave me... I had taken 1 in the morning, and then 1 more later on in the day... and I was feeling great, in the zone, finishing up some shit. Then my dad says there's the annual service at this Unitarian parish around here that we always go to, so I broke a 5-500 in half, and ate that. That's 2.5mg of Vicoden.... shouldn't even do anything, except maybe make me feel even better. Complete opposite. Within 30 minutes, my hydro-high goes from being very pleasant, to me sitting in the church, trying not to nod off, forehead feeling hot, vision blurry... the chemistry of that just doesn't make sense to me. Now, I am back home and feeling fine again, but still. It's strange.


And random but ..I think the first time I ever tried Hydros... I was a coach/counselor at this dope ass Snowboard/Ski Camp a while back (teaching a bunch of little 13 year old stoners tricks on the snow covered volcano and making sure they went to bed and shit, sickest summer job in the world), one of my campers had broken his wrist trying something I told him not to try yet. And I remember he got a bunch of Vicoden, and he gave me handful like 5 and I just munched them on the spot. So dumb. I got SO fucked. Puking for hours. Thought I was gona literally die. Horrible. Couldn't let anyone see either, since I was supposed to be setting an example. Really turned me off from pills and especially opiates in general for the longest time.


I always end up writing fucking essays on this site for some reason... and it has nothing to do with drugs. Maybe it's just the layout of the posting box lol

And yo, Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays K'd-OUT-in-AZ... I appreciate the advice and posts I've seen from you considering my brief amount of time spent on this site.
 
^He means pure pseudophedrine pills if I'm not mistaken. Not a formula with pseudophedrine as the primary active.
 
RegisteredStoneeer said:
I don't understand one thing, why do you say Pseudophedrine is not legal OTC anymore... Isn't it? I'm looking at a box of sudafed with that as the active ingredient...
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Yeah I'm talking about the straight up pills.... again these are from 2001... what you can get OTC now might contain Pseudophedrine but a ton of other shit in it...


They are definitely like taking a mild but definitely noticeable speed pill.... but I am not taking anymore of them. Worked fine the first two days. If anyone wants the remaining ones let me know lol
 
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