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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine(2-(3-methoxyphenyl)-2-(ethylamino)cyclohexanone) Thread

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Although it would be ideal to use bacteriostatic water and a micron filter, I don't know anybody that ever does... yes we all should but a tap, a lighter and a cigaretter filter are fine 99.9% of the time, much cheaper and always to hand. Distilled water would be better than tap probably but I'm skint and not paying for water. Boiled water should be a perfectly good stand in if you can't get/afford the stuff you have to buy. There is always some small risk of infection but I have yet to come across anybody who got unlucky and they/we are IMing street ketamine on a regular basis. Street ket is pure almost everywhere in the UK but it certainly ain't sterile. Boiled (very briefly) in a spoon works fine (believe some folks just make up a solution with boiling water but I like to see the bubbles whether it makes much difference or not). This is exactly what I do when IMing ket, this stuff, or the PCP variants.

Can't say this is 100% safe... but I personally consider it "safe" as do most folks who IM stuff that I am aware of. The proper equipment for being 99.99% safe is all available online but can be a bit pricey.

If you do go the IM route remember to pull back the plunger before injecting the solution - you want to pull back air not blood so the total opposite of IV. I once didn't bother checking and managed to put 200mg of ketamine straight into an artery half killing myself in the process. Don't do that - no blood means good to go. I use my thigh muscle cos it's a big target, the major blood vessels are easy to avoid and you can easily see what you're doing. Check an IM site guide for the safest areas to use if unsure. Be prepared for a bit of a stiff leg the next day if you dose multiple times.
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Thanks Shambles. This is exactly what I was looking for.

How would you use a cigarette filter as a syringe filter? Or even cotton swabs as a filter? I don't really understand that aspect of it.
 
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Glad to be of assistance, folks :)

Other thing to look out for when IM dosing anything is hitting nerves. It's sore if you do but doesn't do any great harm as long as you don't go poking it about. If it feels like an electric shock and hurts like crazy when you put the needle in pull it back out quickly and try somewhere else. If you hit a big vein/artery do the same and apply pressure. Hitting blood vessels is less sore than nerves but they can bleed a bit and leave a nasty bruise if you just leave it. Don't ever inject into blood vessels if you're IM dosing - can be fatal in the worst case scenario. It's actually dead easy to IM as long as you take those precautions. Be safe, have fun, happy spelunking of the rainbow cosmic void :)

Dr Gonzo: Ket tunes transfer well :)
 
Any suggestions 4 a few tunes would be greatly appreciated at dis point...just an hour or so of bliss would suffice(hope im not askin a lot) as have to get up early nd finish off me christmas shoppin :D

Speaking of listening to music on K or MXE, I find it opens my ears to parts of the music I've never heard before and adds far more depth to them. I love putting on a mix of some whacked out Detroit deep house or some Japanese radio show full of wonky broken beats and letting my body and mind be taken on a journey controlled by the ebbs and flows of the music.

Also, I love putting a great visualisation on my media player and have it up on a big TV.

Sound Spectrum just released Aeon and it's the best visualisation i've ever seen. It's very organic (as opposed to the usual more traditional types) and suits psychedelic drug use and MXE very very well. As it works in time with the music it adds an extra lovely edge to my trips I find.

A screen shot from it, which is actually a bit of a visual analogy of how I feel on MXE. :)
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I often feel like i'm a small packet of life/electricity that is just one part of the huge machine that is the the earth and we're always flowing/being pulled towards the centre in some kind of Gaia reality. It feels so harmonious, dynamic, deep, warm and beautiful. <3

http://www.soundspectrum.com/aeon/
 
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For me its bit too much of a mind fuck even in law doses. Too much disacotiation and only little euphoria. I was looking for basically longer lasting K for club nights but unfortunatelly this does not seem useful. May try combining with stim in future. However I can imagine that triptonauts must love it :)
 
This substance is defintly not to be taken lightly, let alone though as as conquerable. I thought after giving it a 3 day break, I would ramp it up to 130mg , which for someone with little dissacoctiative use is a pretty big dose. Well what can I say, I which i had had a sitter to be honest, thinking back on it now it wasn't a bad trip but during the later stages of the trip I was terrified. It all started off fine the usual methox trip, relaxing music has great depths to it, numbness etc. I sank into the hole and appeared to come out in different realitys each time I opened my eyes and the only thing I could think of doing to ground me in some sort of reality was drinking from this bottle of water I had left from earlier. But the problem was this drink of water kept moving around the room- moved by me but in a different reality, or time frame. Which I could not remember doing so. And every time I would drink the whole water, flop back into the hole i was in...wake up in what feels like 2 days time and it would be full again. ( In that space of two days I would have clambered my way to the toilet and filled it up, but had forgot doing so).


My whole house felt like this, looked like this and felt of tissue paper and cardboard

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgu...page=1&ndsp=70&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0&tx=56&ty=88

During the trip the tittinus was immense, sounded like helocopters in my head, my head felt like it was being beaten by the wind of helocopter blades. And I became so sensitive to sound ( as well as auditory hallucinations). But I heard each and every sound at least 6 or 7 times as at the time 'I'( I say I but i really just meant my mind, my body was so small that it was neglieable, wasnt really there)
As I was tripping alone and at home the anxiety and paranoia brought on by the fact that every movement I made sounded so loud that It would wake someone in a coma, I thought (and hoped) my mum would burst through the door and help me back to reality, then kick my ass out of the house the next morning. So I guzzled what seemed like 15 phenibut tablets (not sure, I did this many times- in different timeframe/realitys) The whole time I felt like i was twisting, spinning all the usual weird ket/mxe movements at the same time as being beaten by helicopter wind. I was so exhausted that I could only keep my head up for a short time.


I kept switching between a time frame or reality where I was either under the covers on my bed, or on my sofa, or walking to the toilet to fill up the water bottle.
At least 5 times I tricked myself into thinking "this is reality" and going on my macbook, only to be greeted with overwhelming colours, blaring letters and matrix effects ( so bright I could only open one eye)
I did manage to get to sleep, and still slightly feel like theres a chopper in my head, and my visions still slightly choppy/rainbowish.

I now wish that I had some stronger benzos ( as phenibut hardly counts) and a sitter, hopefully one that would have got all the water for me etc and just helped me remain calm.
This is probaly suited to trip reports better:p

Sorry
 
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^^Thanks for sharing mercc96. Sorry you had a tough ride, but I think the dose was the problem. It does need respect it seems.

I'll take on board your comments though as I'm new to this area of drugs. But I'm still waiting for the right opportunity to try it! 15mg starting dose for me, with 10mg bumps after.
 
Thanks for this Merc.

I am still waiting for my first outing with this, it's sitting there and with most drugs I'd have a very hard job keeping my hands off the baggie but this is one I know I'll do shortly and that's good enough for now.

I won't do this with my son asleep upstairs and babysitting is scarce right now anyway, so tonight is just some MDAI and rum & coke, I know I am safe with that if he wakes up.

Nice report, valuable reading material although I must admit I am quite happy to leave doses and experiences of this intensity alone. Really looking forward to getting my hands on some of the forthcoming NBOMe Mescaline although I know I won't be able to show this kind of restraint with that one! =D
 
People mustn't forget that 400mg doses can land you in hospital with a racing heart and eyes filling with blood. This drug seems to have the potential to kill. (link)

Besides, once you hit the 'hole', you can't go any deeper, you just stay there for longer depending on the dosage.

So as Mercc and others are showing, there's no real reason to push dosages over 100mg at a time. Otherwise bad things happen.
 
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Thanks guys! Must admit the time i did spend in the hole was beautiful. It was only when leaving the hole that things got bad. I also think this drug might take things from the day and use it in your trip, for example I realised later that the tittinus sounds / repeated sounds were the spit of the helicopter and M16 sounds from BFBC2 vietnam (which i had been playing extensively earlier, bit odd I know). I did actually get a some OEV like the shape of things being altered and like rainbow type things skirting objects also. This morning i was very out of it, visually and mentally. Everything did sort of look like I had just had a large rip on a nitrous balloon, but things subsided until about noon and the afterglow was delightful- great way to spend christmas eve IMO!.
But yes this drug deserves alot of respect, I shan't go pushing the boundries too far again.
 
Speaking of listening to music on K or MXE, I find it opens my ears to parts of the music I've never heard before and adds far more depth to them. I love putting on a mix of some whacked out Detroit deep house or some Japanese radio show full of wonky broken beats and letting my body and mind be taken on a journey controlled by the ebbs and flows of the music.

Also, I love putting a great visualisation on my media player and have it up on a big TV.

Sound Spectrum just released Aeon and it's the best visualisation i've ever seen. It's very organic (as opposed to the usual more traditional types) and suits psychedelic drug use and MXE very very well. As it works in time with the music it adds an extra lovely edge to my trips I find.

A screen shot from it, which is actually a bit of a visual analogy of how I feel on MXE. :)
12501667.jpg


I often feel like i'm a small packet of life/electricity that is just one part of the huge machine that is the the earth and we're always flowing/being pulled towards the centre in some kind of Gaia reality. It feels so harmonious, dynamic, deep, warm and beautiful. <3

http://www.soundspectrum.com/aeon/


Thanks for this. If you know of any other decent visualisation apps, please let me know. I'm still running Milkdrop, which is old now.

I've enjoyed this on my HD TV at 1080p, but it's only 4 minutes long for 2.2 gigs! :/

http://www.archive.org/details/HighFidelityDemo
 
People mustn't forget that 400mg doses can land you in hospital with a racing heart and eyes filling with blood. This drug seems to have the potential to kill.
...there's no real reason to push dosages over 100mg at a time. Otherwise bad things happen.

What!? Has this happened to a user? If so could you please link me to the report?
 
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showpost.php?p=9109875&postcount=827

Merry Christmas when it comes folks! I have come to the view that a little sherry and methoxetamine ain't at all bad! BE CAUTIOUS THOUGH!

Damn you beat me to it! I was wading through all the pages trying to find Yatzi's post.

I have a link to the post relating to the death, which is just as important:


Someone on the swedish underground forum flashback.org has reported a death when someone used MDAI and Methoxetamine together. No information on dosage yet.

https://www.flashback.org/sp27563892


Cant confirm this but just be careful out there!

Edit: If this is confirmed sweden probably will outlaw the substance relativly fast. Damn its always in my country people die on new substances.



Oh and merry christmas fellow methoxetamites. Have fun and be safe! For the love of god noone should die on christmas day!
 
Gonna throw in another big plug for methoxetamine combined with 2C-C......wow!:D Takes that particularly beautiful synergy of ketamine and 2C-C and pushes it even further....

I rarely can get where I want to with ketamine anymore. After 15 years of sometimes very heavy use I require doses of >250mg and usually this just results in amnesia...a real crap shoot to break through. But I've had some pretty amazing experiences with methoxetamine lately..

Last night I decided to take 15mgs of 2C-C rectally (this is the way to do this substance. Or snorting. But rectal is very smooth, and 15mg plugged equals about 60mg oral, due to the weird unpredictable pharmacodynamics of this drug) along with 77mg of methoxetamine intramuscularly. I do a lot of visual art and recently bought a flat of these goofy chinese LED light bases that rotate slowly and project upward. I took a few pieces of oddly shaped and faceted cut glass I had made and set em on top, resulting in an always evolving technicolor light show on the ceiling and walls. I set up my bed with a lot of pillows, propping me up in my favorite recumbent hyperspace bobsled position, and lay back. About 15 minutes after plugging the 2C-C it came on, in its magma-sludgy warming way, and I injected the methoxetamine over about a minute (it seems to burn more than ketamine). Within two minutes I was propelled up into the swirling lights on the ceiling, and the music I had selected (The Fun Years - Baby it's cold inside. An excellent tripping album, highly recommended psychedelic pastiche!<3) started humming and resonating with the body I was about to leave behind. As I broke through the churning chrysanthemum (tm) my body was vibrating with such warmth it shattered, and I became a speck of information, with emotions intact.....

Here I entered the noosphere, a now familiar place. My particles danced amongst others, and I felt the curious, prompting, and clever alien presence that always overlooks the noosphere with welcoming pride. I could recognize earth information intermixing with profoundly alien energy streams, and it seemed as if the alien presence was watching us earthlings trying out our new forms, with training wheels helping us along:) The music slowed down to the point where I was riding the swells of each sound wave, and bobbing along in the troughs with other particles of energy and light. Even space/time was outdated here....I spun through living Michio Kaku-esque multiple dimensions, and tried to wrap myself around the 5th, 6th, 7th, etc etc dimensions. I was encouraged to experiment, to hone my skills of harnessing and moulding the slipstreams of energy that flew by and through me from every angle. I spun and floated through multitudes of nebula, factories churning out streams and clouds of bundled up information, some familiar but most incredibly foreign. The alien presence seemed to encourage myself and others to join our energies together, to build a collective web and venture even further out into the cosmos. I could both see and feel this web...it was both data storage and transport, and the possibilities of such felt virtually infinite....

This went on for what felt like centuries, until I slowly began to recognize the nebula as my ceiling, and the energy carrier waves as music coming from my headphones. I remembered who I was enough to check the time at roughly two hours after administration. When I reach this place with disassociatives or psychedelics it begins to feel almost independent from the drugs primary effects, in that the drugs propel me there but that this place exists outside of my mind....

Caution, remember john lily;)

I was suffused with such love and warmth throughout this experience, and even though I was in was such a far out and foreign place surrounded by curious alien beings I never once felt threatened. My only concerns were upon my return, where I questioned my sanity and wondered how I could integrate such an experience into my earthly life. But this is not new to me, and it does come,, and next time I visit I will take what I've learned, and travel further out yet. It becomes an epic astral fairy tale, and it picks up right where I left off when I return. Wonderfully convenient! ;)

Anyway, 2C-C and methoxetamine go together fabulously! <3<3<3

Cheers:)
 
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Have experienced some retrograde amnesia after M-Hole on dosages >150mg

A powerful chemical with a pleasant but strong intoxicating half-life
 
People mustn't forget that 400mg doses can land you in hospital with a racing heart and eyes filling with blood. This drug seems to have the potential to kill.

Besides, once you hit the 'hole', you can't go any deeper, you just stay there for longer depending on the dosage.

So as Mercc and others are showing, there's no real reason to push dosages over 100mg at a time. Otherwise bad things happen.



please elaborate............ merry xmas
 
Hello bluelight! I joined specifically for this thread.
I recently sampled "official" methoxetamine which I believe to be cut with a "caine" (benzocaine or something similar).
Snorting it produced instant numbing effects to the nose and throat which faded through time.
Dissociative effects took 20-30 mins to take full effects with first alerts noticed in 5-10. 50mg still produced fairly decent dissociation.
I don't believe methoxetamine should be numbing my mouth in a similar "caine" fashion though. I am positive it is "official".
Anyone else experience something similar?
 
Hello bluelight! I joined specifically for this thread.
I recently sampled "official" methoxetamine which I believe to be cut with a "caine" (benzocaine or something similar).
Snorting it produced instant numbing effects to the nose and throat which faded through time.
Dissociative effects took 20-30 mins to take full effects with first alerts noticed in 5-10. 50mg still produced fairly decent dissociation.
I don't believe methoxetamine should be numbing my mouth in a similar "caine" fashion though. I am positive it is "official".
Anyone else experience something similar?

I also noticed a difference in this latest batch, I agree there is a caine cutting agent at work. Any way we can find out?
 
Hello bluelight! I joined specifically for this thread.
I recently sampled "official" methoxetamine which I believe to be cut with a "caine" (benzocaine or something similar).
Snorting it produced instant numbing effects to the nose and throat which faded through time.
Dissociative effects took 20-30 mins to take full effects with first alerts noticed in 5-10. 50mg still produced fairly decent dissociation.
I don't believe methoxetamine should be numbing my mouth in a similar "caine" fashion though. I am positive it is "official".
Anyone else experience something similar?

From what I've read and experienced methoxetamine is a topical anesthetic. I haven't snorted any but my whole mouth is numb for about 10 minutes after taking a sublingual dose, which I personally like. I ordered from the official vendors as well.
 
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