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Heroin when to stop cooking.....

^^ supposedly Chicago has powder and tar? I'm not sure, my girlfriend heard that at the rehab she went to in chitown suburbs.

Powder though, you definitely don't need to heat.
 
thats proper mad everyone in the uk adds citric acid to powder brown {bout 3rd to amount of gear} and then heat till all disoveled, dont take long. also before anyone says gear must be crap. yes at mo it is but 5 years ago it was street level at 70% a ten bag! last few months the brown gone down hill! sum one said cas army released bug to destroy popey plants. but they already aparently recovered got phat crop on the go.
 
Which brings all us lucky cluckers in the u.k. to the inevitable conclusion that we should hijack this thread as it applies to us more than most (I think), all of which brings us back to the original question of:

chi bunny said:
when can I be sure that I should stop cooking? cuz I heard you can def cook it too much.....
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LivingOnValium said:
the brown uk heroin is heroin freebase. It needs acid + heat to dissolve.
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is this a good thing or bad im just confused now, heroin is just heroin over here, sum times you get it off the rock or just powder, most time off white/bage colour. been doing for almost eleven years now never been no change to the gear.:\
 
I heat it, not to dissolve it but to concentrate my shot. I'll hit it with 1/3rd cc of water and evaporate the water until I got almost pure heroin in the sppon. Sometimes I go too far and it's too thick to suck up and have to add some water again. Mind thing I guess. I figure it will intensify the rush.
 
Right, more heroin at once. I doubt that's healthy though. Just as injecting warm solution isn't and pushing the plunger all the way etc. I always prepared shots ~20 units, when I used to take a lot, the solution would be dark (we have here brown sugar, beige color, it's mostly cooked with citric acid, rarely with 10% acetic acid) but it was never thick that I would lose a lot when I sucked it up to a syringe through a filter.
 
If it is good quality US powder dope then it doesnt need to be cooked because it is highly water soluble. Sometimes if you run into lower quality dope you can see stuff that will not go into solution, now if you add heat it is going to melt into the solution adding whatever it is into your shot, so thats why i dont heat. Tar dope needs to be heated but thats just to break it down easier.
 
I read in genrall over the last ten years the heroin in the uk was overall much purer quality than the us cas we dont get none of that tar heroin that you cant run on the foil cas to run heroin well on the foil it has to be a higher grade than sum other heroin which in a lower quality can only be injected.
 
hey op i used to cook my dope even though it is not necessary. i just cooked it till most of the stuff was disolved or about 3 sec after it starts bubblin. hope this helps.
 
stuckinaloop said:
I dunno how good dope is in the UK, but I do see hear a hell of a lot about the massive drought. Beleive me...in the US, a fckload of us dont have to deal with (and likely will never even see in person) tar crap that blows a¬se and kills your veins. For a lot of us its nice fluffy white powder that dissolves instantly into plain water or with extremely little effort. Mixes up like fck!n beautiful gingerale and pulls through the cotton leaving absolutely nothin behind. Sh!ts cheap, plentiful, and fire.

Don' t need citric or a lighter or any other bull shi!t just a 5-pack of bare necessities (water, syringe, cotton, somethin to mix in i.e. plunger cap, and of course, DOPE).

Fck here in NJ there is dope in every direction-you gotto be god damned mentally handicap to not be able to find a hot bag of dope for less than a sixer of beer costs within 20 miles of where you live. Travel a half hour in pretty much any direction across state borders, more dope, fck!n fire all over NYC, Philly, Pittsburgh...

Like most people from anywhere eastern half of the US...I've never had the "priveledge" of seeing tar. Sh!t would be imposssible to sell around here. Honestly it's sad but the only reason I would move to Cali or somethin is if I were gettin clean.
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Thats good to hear if i go to the right part of the u.s i can get sum good dope, went to australia a few years back and the dope cost loads an i did not think much of the strenth, defo goona make sure i go to the right part of the states could it would be crimminal not to check out the gear. women are pretty damm hot over there as well.
 
Sometimes "good white to off-white dope" that doesn't need cooking (East Coast - the U.S. and Canada) is actually a salt of fentanyl because freebases of heroin and fentanyl aren't water soluble enough to be meant for shooting without cooking.

And concerning heroin in the U.K. - I know that the stuff in Scotland is basically the same thing we get here in Poland (only I'm wondering if prices are 250% now just like they are here, I've no idea who buys that, finding morphine is probably easier and cheaper now...).
 
stuckinaloop said:
I dunno how good dope is in the UK, but I do see hear a hell of a lot about the massive drought. Beleive me...in the US, a fuckload of us dont have to deal with (and likely will never even see in person) tar crap that blows ass and kills your veins. For a lot of us its nice fluffy white powder that dissolves instantly into plain water or with extremely little effort. Mixes up like fuckin beautiful gingerale and pulls through the cotton leaving absolutely nothin behind. Shits cheap, plentiful, and fire.

Don' t need citric or a lighter or any other bull shit just a 5-pack of bare necessities (water, syringe, cotton, somethin to mix in i.e. plunger cap, and of course, DOPE).

Fuck here in NJ there is dope in every direction-you gotto be god damned mentally handicap to not be able to find a hot bag of dope for less than a sixer of beer costs within 20 miles of where you live. Travel a half hour in pretty much any direction across state borders, more dope, fuckin fire all over NYC, Philly, Pittsburgh...

Point being Jersey ftw. At least we got SOMETHING right.

Like most people from anywhere eastern half of the US...I've never had the "priveledge" of seeing tar. Shit would be imposssible to sell around here. Honestly it's sad but the only reason I would move to Cali or somethin is if I were gettin clean.
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Fuck, a sixer of beer?


try cheaper than ONE beer if ordering from a club/nice bar. In Paterson anyway, Newark costs a couple dollars extra, but i generally found a two dollar difference in size or quality so it worked out in the end. I actually had a connect from some dude in the suburbs one time for double the paterson price, but i would prefer those bags at that price any day over any other bags. That shit was like royal.

Point being jersey for the win. At least we got SOMETHING right for once.
 
caseface99 said:
Fuck, a sixer of beer?


try cheaper than ONE beer if ordering from a club/nice bar. In Paterson anyway, Newark costs a couple dollars extra, but i generally found a two dollar difference in size or quality so it worked out in the end. I actually had a connect from some dude in the suburbs one time for double the paterson price, but i would prefer those bags at that price any day over any other bags. That shit was like royal.

Point being jersey for the win. At least we got SOMETHING right for once.
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well yeah you generally dont buy six packs from a club, but for the point I was making, a single beer from a club works too.

dope is damn cheap and fuckin easier to get than alcohol (if your underage). in these parts at least..north jersey. Shit gets a little more expensive in other parts of the country. Maybe 1.5-2 beers.
 
In Philly and most of the East coast we get awesome tanish/light brown powder colored dope. I've never had to cook a shot of it. Just rip open the stamp bag, give a couple flicks and scrape the insides of the bag a little bit, pour out into spoon, add 30 units of water for a 2 bag shot, see it almost completely dissolve right away, give it a quick stirring and see it turn a clear brownish type color, toss in a cotton out of habit to be safe, suck it up, and BANG THAT SHIT IN YO VEINS!!!

First two years of my addiction I would repeatedly IV into the same 2 veins at least 3 times a day with the shit and never had any problems until I started fuckin around with coke and missing shots. It's so much easier on the veins than tar, ferrsure.
 
Just cook it for your own safety, it could be cut with something horrible to give you a virus ...takes 5 seconds. Cook it. The heat will kill all the bacteria.
 
well what the fuck.......the dopehead that first got me into heroin, first got me into IV, and was my dope partner back when i was using ALWAYS heated it up and i'm from chicago so i get the powdered shit.....i just always saw that being done in the media and saw a bunch of dopeheads doing it before i did so i just thought you had to.........wish i did more research on dope like i do with all the other drugs i try <.<
 
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