California legislation would ban raves at publicly owned venues

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By Patrick McGreevy, Los Angeles Times
December 23, 2010

With reader comments

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-1223-raves-20101223,0,6803976.story

Reporting from Sacramento —
Raves would be outlawed at publicly owned venues in California under a proposal made Wednesday by a lawmaker after the death of a teenager and scores of injuries at rave events in Los Angeles and the Bay Area.

Legislation introduced Wednesday by Assemblywoman Fiona Ma (D-San Francisco) would prohibit the dance concerts on public property, including the Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, where a June rave sent dozens to hospitals, including a 15-year old girl, who died.


Ma's bill would also ban raves on private property unless a business owner had a license to host such an event.
"Raves foster an environment that threatens the health and safety of our youth," Ma said. She called her bill, AB 74, "the first step toward eliminating these dangerous events."

Ma cited the case of high school student Sasha Rodriguez, who died days after falling into a coma after attending the Electric Daisy Carnival at the Coliseum. Dozens of others required medical treatment, and Ma blamed many of the problems on drugs used by those in attendance.

In May, two people died after overdosing at a rave at the state-owned Cow Palace in Daly City, south of San Francisco, and an additional five people were hospitalized, Ma said.

She cited a study by the National Institute on Drug Abuse that found that many teenagers attending raves use so-called club drugs, including Ecstasy, GHB, methamphetamine and LSD.

Rave promoter Jason Sperling of Skills DJ Workshop Inc. denounced the Ma bill as heavy-handed and urged legislators instead to try to deal with the broader issue of drug abuse in society.

"If electronic music is criminalized, our government will succeed in alienating a generation of Californians and simply drive dance parties underground — a less regulated, less safe, less sane situation than we have today," Sperling said in a statement.

Coliseum General Manager Pat Lynch did not return calls seeking comment Wednesday.

Raves are a big money-maker for the Coliseum, which recently lifted a moratorium on the events that was put in place after Sasha's death.

Pasquale Rotella, the promoter of the Electric Daisy Carnival, noted that the Coliseum Commission voted earlier this month to adopt safeguards that include requiring promoters to go before the panel for approval at least 60 days before an event. The Ma bill, he said, "ignores our 1st Amendment rights."

The raves can draw tens of thousands of dancers to enjoy high-volume electronic music, flashy light shows and interactive theatrical performances. The legislation would make it a misdemeanor to hold an event on public property "at night that includes prerecorded music and lasts more than 3 1/2 hours." It would provide for a fine of $10,000 or twice the gross receipts for the event, whichever is greater.

Ma said her proposed regulation is narrowly focused.

"The bill is not intended to impact traditional music concerts and sporting events," she said. "AB 74 is about cracking down on raves that harbor drug use and lead to teenage deaths."

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"The bill is not intended to impact traditional music concerts and sporting events," she said. "AB 74 is about cracking down on raves that harbor drug use and lead to teenage deaths."

Sounds like the Criminal Justice Bill in the UK except a bit more draconian.
 
Because one person has to go kill themselves they ruin it's for everyone else who enjoys them.

Your always gonna get those people that over indulge so why ruin it's for the rest?
 
"Raves foster an environment that threatens the health and safety of our youth," Ma said.

Yea, better to have them trying to score dope in the hood.
Or hanging out in front of 7-11 learning to smoke cigarettes.
Or huffing gasoline in the garage.
At least they will be safe that way.
 
All the best raves I ever been to were in abandoned buildings or the middle of nowhere, who cares if this passes?
 
Illinois anti-rave act.
http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/dll/Illravelaw.htm

There seemed to be a massive amount of parties/raves/whatever in the Chicago area in the 90's but than 'they' started to crack down a bit. Mayor Daleys daughter OD at a rave and he decided to toughen up his stance.

peace.
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Yeah I have friends that were there when she ODed on GHB. Everything just went underground, basically back to normal at this point though. They throw then at public places again and everything.
 
"The bill is not intended to impact traditional music concerts and sporting events," she said. "AB 74 is about cracking down on raves that harbor drug use and lead to teenage deaths."

Sounds like the Criminal Justice Bill in the UK except a bit more draconian.

How does one define which music venue harbors drug use? Most music venues are designed to encourage people to purchase "drinks".
 
All the best raves I ever been to were in abandoned buildings or the middle of nowhere, who cares if this passes?

1. Nanny state directive

2. Knee jerk reaction

3. It punishes the many for the stupidity of a few.

4. It will not solve the issue at hand.

5. Precedent to stop, or at least discourage, all music events (that would NOT happen but it gives future politicians the precedence to try and do so).

6. Who gives these people who I do not vote for (funny that this legislator reps a SF district...progressive my left foot) the right to take away my opportunity to see events I may or may not want to attend?

Bottom line is these kids broke a somewhat golden rule of "dont buy pills at shows" or maybe that is my rule. Anyway, at the very least they should test the stuff they plan to take beforehand. Has apathy gotten so rampant that no one tests anymore? :!

I feel bad for the kids who injured and died as a result of bad pills. But I also see this as an opportunistic politician taking advantage of an emotional response to it as well. That in itself is reason enough (to me) for opposing this legislation.
 
The legislation would make it a misdemeanor to hold an event on public property "at night that includes prerecorded music and lasts more than 3 1/2 hours."

Challenge it. Music is protected speech under the first ammendment.
 
Challenge it. Music is protected speech under the first ammendment.

agreed, i say we take the first amendment stand on this and just promote safe habits.

on the positive side if it passes we will see an increase in live DJing and electronic music making that might add a little more life into the scene if that is at all possible to do to such a life full scene
 
It would provide for a fine of $10,000 or twice the gross receipts for the event, whichever is greater.
So it will cost them $2 per person for a fine, thats totally worth it they make millions anyways.
 
How exactly do they define "rave?" link to the text of the legislation?
 
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