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Bupe Suboxone/Buprenorphine FAQ & Megathread v3; 2010 - 2022

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I never said I was ready for sobriety.. but I meant to ask if I'd be able to get high tomorrow in the afternoon, sorry if it wasn't clear!
 
Oh ok, i thought you meant you took it at 12pm today and wanted to get high THIS afternoon, coulda made sense depending on your time zone. In that case you should be fine, but like i said start small so you don't waste all of it. I have wasted TONS of money my first year or so on suboxone because of not waiting long enough and not getting high.
 
caseface99 said:
When should i start taking less kratom, when it starts making me feel feel 100% again? Because there's no reason to take the same dose the entire time, and transitioning from kratom to nothing will go a lot smoother if i lower my doses.
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You can cut back a bit, but you will likely reach a point where you don't feel any effects from the kratom pretty quickly. Take as little as you need to get by, but I doubt you are taking much more than you need. Personally, I don't cut back the kratom much at all; it is the number of doses per day that I cut back, and eventually take only as needed. The dose that I take at once is pretty close to the bare minimum that I get effects from. YMMV, maybe you can feel smaller doses than I...
 
caseface99 said:
Oh ok, i thought you meant you took it at 12pm today and wanted to get high THIS afternoon, coulda made sense depending on your time zone. In that case you should be fine, but like i said start small so you don't waste all of it. I have wasted TONS of money my first year or so on suboxone because of not waiting long enough and not getting high.
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Yes, I see. Thanks for the response.. I too have wasted a lot of money.. I'm planning on getting a good amount of doses tomorrow. My experience with sub blocking has been strange.. sometimes a small dose will block dope for a number of days for me. Other times a large dose won't block shit.. but I think the fact that I haven't taken sub in a while will put me in the clear soon enough.
 
^^ to both of you just take into account that you will still eventually be withdrawing and you need to take the smallest dose possible for the smallest amount of time necessary. If your tolerance is huge and you need to start at 12mgs then do a relatively quick taper down to 4 mgs and stay there for however long you need to. Don't stay at 12mgs for over a year like i did, because i regret doing that more than i regret doing heroin in the first place.
 
one of the most humiliating experiences of my life was trying to get high while on subs. i was on a small dose at the time, about 1 mg. still, it blocked the fuck out of the 120 mg OC i took. then i doubled the dose. still nothing. i mean, it was weird cause i had other symptoms - pinned pupils, odd, seashell sound in my ears, even itchiness, but not good feelings, nothing pleasurable! oh man, i was so pissed cause ihad already broken down, sacrificed my pride, but still did not get high! that's it, never doing this again, gonna wait at least three days IF i do this again.

well, next morning, tried again. did n't work. doubled dose. nothing. later that night, broke down again and nothing. man, i cringe when i think of those days.

point is, my brother, you should wait as long as you can. it really feels shitty to break down, then STILL not get anything good out of it.
 
^^ Double post? anyway I wasted bundles upon bundles of heroin while prescribed suboxone, it was horrible. Nothing in the last 6 months though and glad to be getting off of subs. Just went to a different vitamin shoppe location and not only did they have gel caps in stock, they had the 00 size caps. Of course the only bags of 00 they had were 500 cap bags, but whatever. I can use these caps again in the future for mushrooms and molly and whatnot, anything else i may ever want to parachute so i went ahead and bought them because it's better than filling/taking 18 pills twice a day with the 0 caps. Of course it cost 12 dollars which i just barely had the money for but that's cool.

Almost done with day 6, so tomorrow around 9pm will mark the end of week one since taking suboxone. I woke up today with the least withdrawal so far, no RLS or sweating just mild skin crawling and groggy tired feeling, both up which went away when i got up. The skin crawling is almost a mild form of RLS because it doesn't make me kick or flail my arms but it goes away when im not laying down. Either way im doing great, thanks to everyone who has helped me get to this point. :)
 
This is my day 4 of Suboxone, after my doc wrote it by mistake instead of Subutex. I had to cross the borders to the US (from Toronto) to go pick it up, and after that long drive, i didn't wan to go back empty handed, especially that i had taken my last Subutex dose that same morning, so not buying those 10 Suboxone pills wasn't an option. Anyways, my doc supposedly called the pharma and fixed the problem, but i will def call them first and make sure they have my "Subutex". When i called them the last time i specifically said Subutex, and the girl was like "yes, it's here, when are you coming?" Probably the bitch doesn't get that these are 2 different medicines!!!
Iv been sniffing 4 mg those past few days, and hate that orange color, HATE IT!! I dose, then take my dog out for a walk, and since it's all cold i have to blow my nose and all that orange comes out!! I have to make sure i don't do this in an elevator or close to someone, as the orange color on the white tissues gets pretty eye-catchy, and if the white snow is the background, it sux man!! Plus, i hate that sweet orang-ish flavor!
I'm wondering if there are researches about the difference between Suboxone and Subutex as in therapy!
Funny how on the bottle of the Roxane Subutex (Duane Reade) it says: "1 tablet daily under tongue" while the Teva Subutex and the Suboxone (Riteaid) it reads: "1 tablet under tongue twice a day" Huge difference from 8 mg and 16 mg!! And, why would i listen to a pharmacy's instructions?!
I heard from people on here that some do find the Suboxone not convenient to them compared to the Subutex. I'm sure i don't have any allergies from the Naloxone, but the effects aren't the same, and i'm going crazy trying to explain, as the differences are not visibly obvious, but are definitely there.
 
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Ashley26 said:
back on the subs again
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Good luck Ashley! Is it because you can't find oxy this time, or are you making a conscious effort to quit?

Either way best of luck.

Been&Done said:
I heard from people on here that some do find the Suboxone not convenient to them compared to the Subutex. I'm sure i don't have any allergies from the Naloxone, but the effects aren't the same, and i'm going crazy trying to explain, as the differences are not visibly obvious, but are definitely there.
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They are identical to me.
 
^ i agree completely......

unless you having issues with the naloxone or some of the binders in suboxone, they are identical............
 
Then why is so much orange coming out as i blow my nose after dosing? Compared to blowing it after dosing Subutex. Can a psychological factor be a key player here? As i'm not enjoying the actual fact that i'm dosing orange suboxone
 
^ its just dye man.....i would not stress it........

are you able to get the white suboxone like i get here in canada? if its really stressing you out enough to do so
 
If i live in Canada now, i'd rather get whatever from here of course. As soon as i came here, i asked around, and found that Suboxone is the only one available here; they do have Subutex but it's given individually by the government. Anyways, these are hopefully my last days with Bupes in general as i have been saying. Suboxone in Canada is white you're saying?
 
^^ Sounds like that's what he said, never heard of that.

Edit: nvm thanks for the clarification CH.

6 grams still isn't making me feel 100% like it did the first couple days. Just finished my 6th day, anybody know when it starts getting better? I know I'm not over the hump yet just wondering.
 
caseface99 said:
^^ Sounds like that's what he said, never heard of that.

Edit: nvm thanks for the clarification CH.

6 grams still isn't making me feel 100% like it did the first couple days. Just finished my 6th day, anybody know when it starts getting better? I know I'm not over the hump yet just wondering.
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Maybe by 2-3 weeks in total?

I would take a break from kratom for like, another 3-4 days, and then try another dose of it. See what that does for you.

It might be that it only starts to help after you get through 1.5 to 2 weeks, unless it's like you haven't done it in a while (which is why it worked well the first time you took it).

It might be that maybe just going one whole day without kratom will be long enough to take it the next day and actually get "relief" or what you're looking for out of it.
 
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