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Whats with the chemists that keep making shitty pills?

VincentOnE

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The ecstacy community gets a little smarter as time goes on, shunning shitty pills on pillreports, etc.

And throughout friends and events in norcal, people are always searching for them pokeballs and mints,
so why can't some of the chemists that can obviously create mdma, put a fuckload of other random chemicals in it?

Spending just a couple hours in the rave scene can tell you what's in high demand,
not necessarily pure MDMA which I know and love,
but "Smackers" Usually amp's with some mdma,
but not all kinds of horrible brain numbing adulterants that put my friend into the hospital last night, and had me blacking the fuck out.

If you're a chemist with knowledge of making MDMA, why not just go the pokeball route, throw some caffeine in it, and make a fuckload of high-demand pills?
 
chances are, chemists aren't making the actual pills.

chemists might make the mdma which the next person in the chain/process will press into pills, adding whatever adulterants they choose to.

these people will buy less mdma, and put in crap like pipes or add in caffeine or just more filler.
 
tenshu2k said:
chances are, chemists aren't making the actual pills.

chemists might make the mdma which the next person in the chain/process will press into pills, adding whatever adulterants they choose to.

these people will buy less mdma, and put in crap like pipes or add in caffeine or just more filler.
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Correct. It's the pressers that are making the shitty pills, as they are the ones pressing them.
The chemists are just making the MDMA. If they make shitty product, pressers won't buy it.
But the pressers know that there are a lot of ignorant people out there who will just buy random pills, with out even checking pill reports or any of those resources.
 
Ita about MONEY - cheap dirty chemicals that can trick people into parting with their cash.

I think that every chemist associated with the rave scene knows what people would want but when the lure of quick buck for less risk appears then combined with ignorant users ....
 
I definitely have to say it is for the money. Though...I don't get how they manage to keep making their money. I know that some people don't know how mdma feels like and thats probably one group of people they can target, but what about those who can tell the good shit from the bad? Don't they realize people won't come back if their product is wack (hahaahaha I made a funny)?

Seriously like for instance, I had a guy who first sold me rolls. It ended up being complete pipes no matter what color and brand he got so I got mad and told a lot of people he knew how shitty his rolls were so they wouldn't buy it. I found out later his yayo was the shit so I stuck around lmao, but his pills were so shitty that he didn't really sell them anymore. One less person giving people false hope.
 
It's just about the money. Pipes are cheaper to produce than MDMA and a lot of people will just take whatever pill gets them high in one way or another so they can keep doing it over and over because people won't educate themselves and tell people pushing pipes to fuck off.
 
I think it partly has to do with the Safrole that comes from SE Asia. They are cracking down on it and that means less is getting to Holland/Eastern Europe where most of the MDMA is made. So they had to turn to cheaper alternatives (less fun alternatives) in world to make money.
 
its impossible right now to get mollys in socal or even good pills, i think 80% that i run into is adultured BS like fake pokeballs, pipes and amps. i mean jesus, if they just put MDMA and AMP's with 20% filler i would be happy.
 
Renkei said:
its impossible right now to get mollys in socal or even good pills, i think 80% that i run into is adultured BS like fake pokeballs, pipes and amps. i mean jesus, if they just put MDMA and AMP's with 20% filler i would be happy.
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........we must live in two different socal's......
Ive been getting nothing but MDxx high pills for the past 6 months. Even the ones that aren't pokéballs.
Sure in the past two months, they're getting a little harder to find...but no where near impossible. You just aren't looking hard enough mate :)
 
MDMA requires an illegal precursor so its extremely hard to male. So long as crappy pills sell, crappy pills will be made.
 
NationOfThizzlam said:
........we must live in two different socal's......
Ive been getting nothing but MDxx high pills for the past 6 months. Even the ones that aren't pokéballs.
Sure in the past two months, they're getting a little harder to find...but no where near impossible. You just aren't looking hard enough mate :)
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I agree with Thizzlam. Ive found some low quality, bunk, and straightout pipes, but Ive never taken them. The past 2 months has been a bit difficult but the real Pokes just had their wave in November, hopefully some new ones come out soon :D
 
you bitch about the west coast, but the east coast is ten times worse!

check out the northeast section on pillreports and then get back to me, no mdxx high anything....wish i could find a pokeball or mint.
 
Then move....

Bsiren is right, as long as someone buys the product, it will still be produced. But its easy for bsiren and I to say that seeing as how we're in a pretty decent location as far as drugs go.

What we should do is educate the masses with a website off some sort that teaches them about high and low quality drugs. And from there we should organize a boycott against crappy drugs. we'll give everyone some kind if kit that tells you what drugs are in what ever you're buying so that you can show people that what they're buying is crap and most likely unsafe.
Oh wait....
 
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yeah dude just move across the country so that you can get better thizz pills... that's a great reason for moving, you won't regret it
...oh wait
 
its kinda hard to tell what is sarcasm and what is not on a forum.. but i do agree its not the chemist making the pills it's the people that make them. the chemist just make the chemicals for us to have a good time.
 
VincentOnE said:
The ecstacy community gets a little smarter as time goes on, shunning shitty pills on pillreports, etc.

And throughout friends and events in norcal, people are always searching for them pokeballs and mints,
so why can't some of the chemists that can obviously create mdma, put a fuckload of other random chemicals in it?

Spending just a couple hours in the rave scene can tell you what's in high demand,
not necessarily pure MDMA which I know and love,
but "Smackers" Usually amp's with some mdma,
but not all kinds of horrible brain numbing adulterants that put my friend into the hospital last night, and had me blacking the fuck out.

If you're a chemist with knowledge of making MDMA, why not just go the pokeball route, throw some caffeine in it, and make a fuckload of high-demand pills?
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There is money in pressing random pills that desperate people that don't know anything buy. Another common method is making pills that are good one batch and get a good rep, then switching to cheaper chems and cashing in on the brand. Pillreports and test kits aren't THAT popular yet (maybe in some scenes) and as long as there's tons of money in bad pills, they will keep showing up!
 
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