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illerrre

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I recently read this study saying joint is a more harmless way to smoke than bong since even though the water filtrates some of the bad it also takes away some of the good (thc).

http://www.rockscillc.com/Studies/SmokingDeviceStudy.htm

Do you know if there are any other studies on this? I want to believe bong is a less harmfull way to smoke but this study doesn't agree with me.
 
It is. Not more than 5% of the total THC in your herb is lost to the water, much more is lost to being burnt or condensing as tar in the downstem, and the water provides a measure of cooling to the hot smoke.
 
Yes, you do lose some cannabinoids in the water, and yes you also lose other less desireable soluble compounds as well. But the difference is negligeble. Bongs are no healthier than pipes.
If you're really interested in using cannabis in a healthier way either vaporize or consume it some other way altogether(oral?).
 
delta_9 said:
Yes, you do lose some cannabinoids in the water, and yes you also lose other less desireable soluble compounds as well. But the difference is negligeble. Bongs are no healthier than pipes.
If you're really interested in using cannabis in a healthier way either vaporize or consume it some other way altogether(oral?).
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Right, that's what I heard too.

I know about vaporizers and I do own one, but I dunno... it doesn't seem to be that good. And it cost me 130$. Maybe I'll give it another try.
 
illerrre said:
Right, that's what I heard too.

I know about vaporizers and I do own one, but I dunno... it doesn't seem to be that good. And it cost me 130$. Maybe I'll give it another try.
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what type is it?

you'll have to fork out a bit for a 'good' vaporizer. prob like 200+ usually for the bag ones, most effective.

i remember i first bought a vape for about 100$, was a glass dome one, so crap. turned me off til i did more research
 
xtc123 said:
what type is it?

you'll have to fork out a bit for a 'good' vaporizer. prob like 200+ usually for the bag ones, most effective.

i remember i first bought a vape for about 100$, was a glass dome one, so crap. turned me off til i did more research
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Yeah, I got one of those... A removable glass dome and a brown foot. Crap eh?

I'm considering buying a vaporgenie, question is how good it is to smoke hasch in?
 
Vapor Genies aren't that great, I own one, as well as one of those shitty dome vapos, and honestly I prefer the dome.
 
You don't have to get a Volcano, and the vapour genie works, it's just a pain in the ass because you have to hold your lighter close enough to get to vapourization, without it being so close it burns the pot. Save yourself $400 and go for a Vapor Daddy or Vapair One.
 
How did this post turn into stuff about vaporizers?

Anyways, yes thc is lost in the water but far more is lost in a joint or blunt. PLUS you can always drink the bongwater =D
 
grow it up, break it up, roll it up, light it up, inhale hold and start again

joints burn at very low temp, and you ingest more ingredients with one, then you do in a vaporizer; the point of those us to get the temp set to combust/vaporize the THC, not CBDx, and im not sure about THCV..
yes indeed i love valcanos.
;)
maybe end up with one when a friend upgrades - lol

but as far as the water, yes you lose some to unconductive water, and more-
***as soon as the water begins filtering the smoke, other chems are trapped in the water adding particles and EC, the THC will then attach to those also, to different degrees.
there is more then just water in there.***

i hate torching my meds in a pipe or bong, a nice joint will go out if you dont keep hitting it, and any smoke trail there may be is mostly rolling paper, and the burnt up end from the last toke, also the resins coat the joint, rather then a pipes barrel.
 
^Thanks for explaining that about the thc sticking to the other stuff in the water, I've always wondered how thc got filtered out if its so non soluible in water.
Doesnt a joint burn at like 600-800 degrees celcius?That doesnt seem very low considering the temps needed to vaporize the active ingredients but it still would be lower than a pipe or bong would be. Sucks lol no matter what quite a bit of thc is lost due to burning
 
600-800 degrees celcius? No way ? that cant be.. atleast I dont think so(actually yeah, it is, 500-700degrees Celcius, Hmm, weird, I fail,lol)

And as for vaporizers, I own a pretty good bag vape, Only thing I dont like is that I'm not getting my CBD </3. I love to get couch locked and just get hella tired and stoned when smoking.

Though , I do like to use the vaporizer if I'm going to be up through out the day doing things, as it gets me high, but doesn't really make me tired, and the nice thing about it is you can use the left over vaped weed (duff if I recall?) can be used for cannabutter :D

As for thc absorbed through water, I believe there is very very little that is.

Though in your post you ask about which is healthier, well, I personally would think that the Joint would be healthier, as your not taking such concentrated hits of smoking into your lungs which would be more damaging than just puffing on a joint (IMO)

God this thead is all over the place.
 
panic in paradise said:
joints burn at very low temp, and you ingest more ingredients with one, then you do in a vaporizer; the point of those us to get the temp set to combust/vaporize the THC, not CBDx, and im not sure about THCV..
yes indeed i love valcanos.
;)
maybe end up with one when a friend upgrades - lol

but as far as the water, yes you lose some to unconductive water, and more-
***as soon as the water begins filtering the smoke, other chems are trapped in the water adding particles and EC, the THC will then attach to those also, to different degrees.
there is more then just water in there.***

i hate torching my meds in a pipe or bong, a nice joint will go out if you dont keep hitting it, and any smoke trail there may be is mostly rolling paper, and the burnt up end from the last toke, also the resins coat the joint, rather then a pipes barrel.
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Bah joints are a complete waste of marijuana. For the high of a whole joint i could use half the amount of weed of one joint, smoke it through a bong and still get more stoned despite any chemical losses lol.

I'm with Mr. fluffykins.

Like others said basically the amount of thc lost through bong use does not even matter, bongs are still more efficient and get you more stoned than anything on the smallest amout of weed, except for vapourising, which can be extremely efficient.
 
Prelude2TragedyII said:
600-800 degrees celcius? No way ? that cant be.. atleast I dont think so(actually yeah, it is, 500-700degrees Celcius, Hmm, weird, I fail,lol)

And as for vaporizers, I own a pretty good bag vape, Only thing I dont like is that I'm not getting my CBD </3. I love to get couch locked and just get hella tired and stoned when smoking.

Though , I do like to use the vaporizer if I'm going to be up through out the day doing things, as it gets me high, but doesn't really make me tired, and the nice thing about it is you can use the left over vaped weed (duff if I recall?) can be used for cannabutter :D

As for thc absorbed through water, I believe there is very very little that is.

Though in your post you ask about which is healthier, well, I personally would think that the Joint would be healthier, as your not taking such concentrated hits of smoking into your lungs which would be more damaging than just puffing on a joint (IMO)

God this thead is all over the place.
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Nah that dosn't sound that off.
Pretty sure vapourisers heat weed up to 180-200 celcius.. If you had a lush digital one you could dial it to a temperature thats above what cbd boils at.. Go back to smoking bro. Cannibidial or however it is spelt has mad health benefits lol(seriously), it's not a chemical worth omitting from your highs.
 
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