2C-E + Wild Dagga = ?

[zaggy]

So I have some 2C-E which I could be using in the near future and was wondering what the general consensus about combining it with 2C-E would be. I read one report on Erowid but was hoping to see what other people would think.

I just got this idea because I just realized I've been growing it in my garden (didn't know what it was!).

I heard that it can somewhat be a substitute for cannabis and was wondering if it might be pleasant during a trip without being as overbearing as cannabis can sometimes be.

Oh yeah, forgot to mention, I've never smoked Wild Dagga.. Also I'm posting this here cause of the possibility of coupling it with 2C-E.

 

[heythatsmybike]

i'm no expert, but combining 2ce with 2ce will probably give you 4c2e

 

[The Hebrew Hammer]

Im pretty sure wild dagga is one of those drugs thats just VERY VERY mild.

Like valerian root, chamomile, 5hp etc all that stuff is so unnoticeable that anyone who has EVER done any real drugs wont be able to get much from it.

But then again, I bet it has a very descript charecter to it if you get to know it. I imagine it most noticeable in a changa blend or as a method of altering or enhancing another substance / experience...

I say go for it, I highly doubt it will kill you.

 

[TheAppleCore]

^ Kind of off-topic, but I was pleasantly surprised by how well a couple grams of Valerian root chilled me out.

 

[Amberthefrog]

I found Wild Dagga to produce noticeable and not altogether pleasant affects; a lot of herbs I've tried tend to produce a mild chilling effect (valerian, skullcap, opium lettuce, damiana to name a few). This was really different and gave me a mild buzz and an odd mood.

I wouldn't smoke this on a psychedelic, but then I seem to react weirdly to it. I'd say smoke it sober first and see what you think. The most likely outcome is that it will have very little affect on you, with or without 2c-e in your system.

Peace and weird orange flowers!

 

[zaggy]

I found Wild Dagga to produce noticeable and not altogether pleasant affects; a lot of herbs I've tried tend to produce a mild chilling effect (valerian, skullcap, opium lettuce, damiana to name a few). This was really different and gave me a mild buzz and an odd mood.

I wouldn't smoke this on a psychedelic, but then I seem to react weirdly to it. I'd say smoke it sober first and see what you think. The most likely outcome is that it will have very little affect on you, with or without 2c-e in your system.

Peace and weird orange flowers!

I'll definitely try smoking it when I get over this cold then. A friend told me she smoked it and couldn't eat for three days and was tripping in a sense

My curiosity is in whether it would have good synergistic effects with 2c-e (20-28mg range) , or should I just go with weed (or nothing for that matter).

Weed only ever agrees with my mind when I smoke it occasionally, and still even then sometimes makes me anxious and paranoid. But for some reason whenever I've dosed myself out of reality on LSD, I love smoking bowl after bowl, feeling myself drifting further away. But they have very good synergy.

Peace and weird orange flowers, my friend! As soon as that plant started flowering I was thinking "ALRIGHT, WHAT PLANET IS THIS DAMN THING FROM?!" XD

Oh, and another question— if 2C-E tends to lack euphoria, does weed add euphoria to it by gettin the dopamine started up in your brain?
Thanks for all the responses everyone!

 

[Si Dread]

Dunno if you've taken 2c-e before, but it can cause nausea & a smoke as the trip comes on is a great idea to help ease it. Personally, I'd go for proper skunk or good weed coz you need a reasonable hit to counteract the nausea. Always smoke a small amount & see how you go. Some people dont get nausea on c-e, others do. As usual, you millage may vary Lol

& whats all this talk of dagga, you guys Saffa's?

Oh, & I'm not sure c-e lacks euphoria or if it's psychedelics in general that I dont find particularly euphoric. Hilarious, sure, but can laughing your arse off & gazing at the pretty colours for hours be described as "euphoric"? I dunno...

 

[zaggy]

Dunno if you've taken 2c-e before, but it can cause nausea & a smoke as the trip comes on is a great idea to help ease it. Personally, I'd go for proper skunk or good weed coz you need a reasonable hit to counteract the nausea. Always smoke a small amount & see how you go. Some people dont get nausea on c-e, others do. As usual, you millage may vary Lol

& whats all this talk of dagga, you guys Saffa's?

Oh, & I'm not sure c-e lacks euphoria or if it's psychedelics in general that I dont find particularly euphoric. Hilarious, sure, but can laughing your arse off & gazing at the pretty colours for hours be described as "euphoric"? I dunno...

Alright then, I'll try the Dagga another time. Nausea (especially vomiting e.e) is definitely something I don't want, and I do have some good weed. I just don't wanna get too blazed while I'm on it. I have no tolerance.

I've never taken 2C-E before. I know 20-28mg seems like a pretty hefty dose, but I don't have a scale and it's too late to re-cap it.

And what I meant by euphoria is that I've heard 2C-E seems like a more serious driven trip rather then the laughing your ass off in another dimension tripping faaaceee. Not as giddy as acid? LSD just has a feel-good vibe to it.

 

[Si Dread]

Well, obviously everyone has different experiences with different compounds but I & my trip-partner both enjoyed laughing on both our 2c-e trips so far.

If you're stuck with an amount of 2c-e that you cant measure, as advised above, if it's possible for you to halve your dose & take the two halves an hour apart, that may well help with the nausea. If your tolerance to weed is low then the dagga might be fine. But I find if I smoke alot of mild weed I'm more likely to get a headache than if I smoke a small amount of good weed. SO if a little dagga dont work, try some stronger herb!

Happy travels!

edit : & for the record, I've had 2c-e three times, 2c-c twice & 2c-t-2 twice & although I've felt a bit queasy & sometimes very queasy I havent thrown up on any of them. 2c-c I find to be the most nauseating, requiring the highest dose, having the shortest effect & the most headachey hangover...

Are headaches a common thing for 2c comedowns?

 

[zaggy]

Well, obviously everyone has different experiences with different compounds but I & my trip-partner both enjoyed laughing on both our 2c-e trips so far.

If you're stuck with an amount of 2c-e that you cant measure, as advised above, if it's possible for you to halve your dose & take the two halves an hour apart, that may well help with the nausea. If your tolerance to weed is low then the dagga might be fine. But I find if I smoke alot of mild weed I'm more likely to get a headache than if I smoke a small amount of good weed. SO if a little dagga dont work, try some stronger herb!

Happy travels!

edit : & for the record, I've had 2c-e three times, 2c-c twice & 2c-t-2 twice & although I've felt a bit queasy & sometimes very queasy I havent thrown up on any of them. 2c-c I find to be the most nauseating, requiring the highest dose, having the shortest effect & the most headachey hangover...

Are headaches a common thing for 2c comedowns?

I think a little bowl of weed shall be good indeed. So I had 30mg total, two 15mg caps. And I've found that with tripping in general it tends to be full of laughing and giddiness if it's shared with a tripping partner, but I don't have one, and I don't know where to get any more 2C-E, as my friend visited and sold me some.

I eyeballed ~4mg from one of the 15mg caps to test out. For the big trip, I wanted to aim for the 18-20mg range. But this substance tends to put itself in many different size clumps, and when you break the clumps, they form new ones!

So then the new goal was to make a slightly smaller dosed capsule and a bigger dose cap aiming for 20mg. But I got OCD and kept taking some and putting some back in until the clumps got mixed up and without a scale I'm screwed.

Not to mention I got carried away and made a "2C-E Supplement" consisting of 2C-E and Magnesium! Oh well.

The only other phenethylamines I've done are various ones in the MDxx family, and mescaline in San Pedro tea. And ADD meds, but never recreationally (I no longer take those). It was under my impression that 2C's generally have little to no hangover.