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The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine(2-(3-methoxyphenyl)-2-(ethylamino)cyclohexanone) Thread

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its just that when you read a thread with vendor talk after the date its useless information and thats why its not clever to fill a thread full of SHIT as six months from now someone may want info but have to trawl through a sea of useless posts to find anything relevant
 
Except there was no vendor talk, there was someone showing excitement, that's all.

Moaning about another post which was at the very worst borderline, can also be deemed as SHIT that people have to wade through. Let the mods do their jobs.
 
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http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=528308

Amanitadine is right, just cut it out with all the talk of when you're going to order and when it's back in stock or mentioning which of the vendors is considered legitimate. Familiarize yourself with the rules please.
 
So instead of not discussing vendors, the thread is now degrading into discussing forum rules. Great!

Sorry if I appear argumentative but self-appointed judges piss me off.
 
This will all be removed into a garbage bin when a moderator will have time for it anyways. Untill then, knock yourself out and be pissed off all you want. ;)
 
I may as well post my response, as it appears to be me that caused all this, and it will all get binned along with all the crap anyway as blowmonkey says :)

The only part of the rules that applied to my crime was this bit: and don't copy and paste anything from their website, emails, or other vendor messages of any kind

Nothing was copied or pasted. Although I will concede that I was cutting it fine. But sorry if it was deemed a rule break. I am normally very careful, honest. Put it down to over exuberance or something.

It's all kind of academic now anyway since I edited my offending message. Though slightly ironic that the offending message is still on display as a quote from the new mod though ;)

On topic...Early on in this thread there were a few reports of a very uplifting and almost anti-depressant afterglow effect. I just wondered if this was universally felt?
 
I was pretty excited about getting and trying this until someone asked me if it isn't neurotoxic when I told them it is an arylcyclohexylamine.
Honestly I would still give it a try at least once or a few times but as a ketamine replacement suddenly I worry a little considering PCP's toxicity - funny how someone can give you "RC fear" just like that even though I know this is hypocritical of me.
 
I was pretty excited about getting and trying this until someone asked me if it isn't neurotoxic when I told them it is an arylcyclohexylamine.
Honestly I would still give it a try at least once or a few times but as a ketamine replacement suddenly I worry a little considering PCP's toxicity - funny how someone can give you "RC fear" just like that even though I know this is hypocritical of me.

Is PCP really that much harder on the brain than an equal duration exposure to ketamine? I know this is not an easily answerable question. I also thought that some of the toxicity of PCP was related to contamination with its nitrile precursors but I can't substantiate that right now.

I do wish more of these new dissociatives tended more towards K-like duration. That always feels just right to me, even if I'm getting less drugged-ness for my buck.
 
No one else a bit shocked after reading the privacy policy of one of the main sites selling this chemical? I sure aint using any of these sites. Here's a little excerpt:

*snip* -quote led to vendor

They can sell or disclose your info to 3rd parties

-any major dude
 
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Except there was no vendor talk, there was someone showing excitement, that's all.

Moaning about another post which was at the very worst borderline, can also be deemed as SHIT that people have to wade through. Let the mods do their jobs.

I wasn't going to respond in defense of myself at the risk of clogging this thread with more bullshit, but after thinking about it seems like alot of people are missing the point. . .

How many people know (or care?) that Bluelights primary purpose is Harm Reduction ? Vendor discussion, of any sort, has no place on Bluelight. Did you know that Bluelight is privately owned? And one of the few tenets of the BLUA is no sourcing or vendor discussion.....and no discussions of availability, price, etc. Not only are we asked by the owners of this site to refrain from such, but these exclusions are absolutely vital to the health of this site. Half of this thread has been talk of "release dates" and delays, and even prices. Bluelight is not here to help anyone buy or sell drugs. I've been a presence on Bluelight for almost ten years (this user name and join date came after my release from prison) and I must say I've been deeply dismayed at the direction the site has taken. Since mephedrone, "benzo fury", etc, Bluelight has veered dangerously close at times to being dominated by thinly veiled marketing ploys. It makes me sad..it makes others sad, and now we are seeing a mass exodus of long term respected members because of the devolution taking place.

Let the mods do their jobs? Are we really not capable of policing ourselves and honoring these simple requests? Do you have any idea how much work it takes to be a moderator on Bluelight? Do you realize these mods do their jobs for free? And that Bluelight costs money to operate, and that all this inane vendor talk not only compromises the integrity of the site but also makes a helluva lot more work for the mods? Man........I would like to think we could each do our part, and lighten this load, and keep Bluelight what it is intended to be: A harm reduction site.

Cheers
 
Beware

The British government changed some laws three days ago to ban new drugs faster.
It is still legal to posses, buy and produce this one, but for how long? Probably no much longer that the time it will take for its name to appear in some national newspaper.

Now they do not even need to consult scientists to ban anything they want; and we know how addicted to ban (interesting) drugs governments are.

It will be dirtier on the black market, so I thought I'd better write this for harm reduction purposes, just in case anyone wanted to take precautions
 
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So instead of not discussing vendors, the thread is now degrading into discussing forum rules. Great!

Sorry if I appear argumentative but self-appointed judges piss me off.

and maybe talking about where and when you are getting drugs pisses other people off as its irrelevant to everyone but you:\
 
How does the effects scale with dosage? When do you reach the 'peak' effects stage, or k-hole like state with this compound?
 
How does the effects scale with dosage? When do you reach the 'peak' effects stage, or k-hole like state with this compound?

it takes about half an hour nasal to notice the peak and seems to last between two and three hours until all effects are gone
 
Good to know, I was curious about that... but comparing with ketamine: I would say that the main effects last an hour but residual effects can really linger for hours. Is the 2-3 hours mostly main effect (making it during roughly twice as long as ketamine) or is 2-3 hours including after-effects making it very similar to ketamine's.

Talking about the residual effects, does it impair motor functions and cognitive faculties like (nor)ketamine does and like I have heard 4-MeO-PCP really has a knack for?
 
Yes, given the trouble I had getting to & from the bathroom on K one time (it aint far!) I would also be curious to know the answer to this query...
 
The British government changed some laws three days ago to ban new drugs faster.

Source of this information? They've been announcing intentions to do so for a while, but I can't find any evidence on the OPSI site that they've done anything like the above claim. the nearest thing I can find is something on the home office site saying that it'll be in place by the end of next year.
 
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