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Tryptamine advice please!

TheUncreated

TheUncreated

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Hey all,

I have some pretty extensive experience with many psychedelics, but primarily PEA's, and have been recently yearning to explore the world of tryptamines more thoroughly. I am planning on acquiring some 4-AcO-DMT and 5-MeO-MiPT, although I'm unsure of which I should invest in primarily. I have read a lot about each, and I am leaning towards a good amount of 4-aco-dmt and a smaller batch of the latter, as the majority of my psychedelic use is centered around spiritual/entheogenic purposes.

I also appreciate the recreational aspect of psychs, so I do want to experiment with each of them to both ends.

So, I suppose what I really want to know is if their are any of you that have tried Moxy at high doses and have found it to have any potential for a seriously transformative experience?
 
Thanks d9, I've read through the big and dandys till i was blue in the face before posting this, but I have not checked out many reports yet, will certainly get on that.
 
If u want my advice which i guess is more of an opinion, i prefer 5-meo-mipt, it's cheaper and a much better trip IMO. 4-aco-dmt is more expensive and is basically the same thing as shrooms which u could easily acquire or grow yerself most likely. IME on various blind testing most people prefer 5-meo-mipt, it has a nice bodyhigh, intense visuals, great music enhancement, a general "fuckin cool" minspace without all that pesky introspection which shrooms is very good for. It depends on yer preference, if u just want a good time go w/5-meo-mipt, shrooms are a great trip don't get me wrong, u can laugh alot on them, but they can also make u think alot, which can sometimes be a bit much for me atleast and like i said-u can just get shrooms-that's basically what 4-aco-dmt is like.

But honestly, if u've had limited tryptamine experience, i believe the best tryptamine trip is Ayahuasca, nothing compares to it, and i've done it many times and it feels so pure and natural that i can't even imagine anyone having an unpleasant or bad trip off it and it's cheaper and easier to acquire than the RCs and it will really open yer mind up in the right way+it's totally natural! FYI, some people puke, I discovered when making the mimosa/harmala tea which can be potent but nasty that mixing it with warm/hot strwaberry milk suitably covers the flavor nicely and completely eliminates the nausea.

Strawberry Mimosa Frappe anyone
 
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(zonk) said:
FYI, some people puke, I discovered when making the mimosa/harmala tea which can be potent but nasty that mixing it with warm/hot strwaberry milk suitably covers the flavor nicely and completely eliminates the nausea.

Strawberry Mimosa Frappe anyone
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My god does that sound disgusting.
 
With 5-meo-mipt, I have taken the dose to well over 75mg, in staggered doses over the course of a couple of hours. It gets very psychedelic at such doses, and is a full-blast trip. At these dizzy heights it is far more than just a 'tryptamine roll' for sure. It is, however, outrageously erotic, which could detract from using it as a tool for serious exploration.

If you are looking for a deep "stepping through your own shadow" kind of trip, you may want to look at something more punishing. I haven't used 4-aco-dmt, but if it is anything like shrooms, than a good high-dose trip might be close. I agree with the above ayahuasca suggestion however, for an intense life-review.
 
there's also 4-AcO-MiPT, 4-HO-MiPT, 4-HO-MET, 5-MEO-DiPT, & some others that are all fairly closely related to the ones you mentioned, and are certainly worth researching as well. I'm a bit fan of 4-AcO-DMT, and i find it somewhat qualitatively different from shrooms, as do most people, but it is very shroomish. Never tried 5-Meo-MiPT, but i would like to at some point
 
I found that 5-MeO-MiPT is a very gentle tryptamine. I can see how it is said to be the "MDMA of tryptamines". It really is like a tryptamine roll, but with a very high dose I've been told the road gets bumpier. For me it was a great creative thinking enhancer. Conversation with a friend (also tripping) became a steady flow of crazy ideas and free-association concepts and was very entertaining. I must agree that it has strong erotic tendencies as I often found myself thinking about sex in a wild fiery way that I don't find with MDMA. All in all a very pleasant experience.

(zonk) said:
it has a nice bodyhigh, intense visuals, great music enhancement, a general "fuckin cool" minspace
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While I will agree with the great music enhancement and "fuckin' cool" mindspace, I have to say that 5-MeO-MiPT was BARELY visual for me, in a similar way that MDMA can be very mildly visual.

I have yet to enter the world of 4-AcO-DMT but from what I've been told, it sounds very interesting. It has been compared to shrooms, or has been said to be shroomy, but I'm sure it has it's own signature, as with all trypts and phens.
 
just tried 4-aco-dmt for the first time last friday and i loved it. i havent tried 5-meo-mipt and probably wont for a decent amount of time, but 4-aco-dmt gets my vote for sure. it was a really great substance.

Considering how little i enjoy shrooms i was really surprised how much i liked 4-aco. obviously its not exactly like shrooms, (to be honest it felt a lot different to me). it definitely maintains some aspects of shrooms but i felt much clearer and way less anxious.
 
I didn't think we supported "what should I take" threads.

The core idea is that many substances have value for different people and you are encouraged to explore and read about what sounds good. Check random trip reports, compare a little and you should get a better idea of what suits you than asking other people about their values.

Of course there are many shortcuts and I don't mean to be a dick about it, one such shortcut is the couple of threads that have polls. A poll should tell you what compounds/tryptamines are appreciated best but if those polls and this sort of thread here as well will always be skewed by what compounds are used most.
Rare gems have a hard time reaching a global rank 1 status simply because they are not prevalent but they can be rank 1 for the stunning majority of the people who have tried them.

Hoping you will do the homework anyway, despite people suggesting compounds here, I can break the aforementioned 'rule' and say I found 4-AcO-DMT, 4-AcO-DiPT, 4-HO-DiPT and 4-HO-MET worth investigating and pleasant (4-AcO-DMT being beautiful interesting and worthwhile and 4-HO-DiPT focussing more on 'pleasant')
 
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