Highest 2ct2 dose?

[killarava2day]

Personally, I get more out of 12.5-15 mgs than i do from 20+ mgs

 

[anjovis]

I can add one more reference point: friend tried 54mg yesterday, it produced very strong visuals (or should I say visions as he did) for some time and quite interesting headspace otherwise. He woke up in the early hours into terrible headache.

 

[moshka-medicine]

i believe anjovis is speaking of me.... with the 54mg...
some further info...
took 32mg at 18.45 then 22mg two hours later (so it was 54mg at once...but close, cause i cracked the gel cap with my teeth when i swallowed it)... by 22.00 i was out there... i weight 81kg and am somewhat of a hard head... i have never taken 2ct2 before either.... extreme visuals... listened to naked lunch on mp3 for a while and some stockhausen... headed to bed at 1.30 still tripping... and woke up the next morning with a fucking terrible headache after hallicinating madly for a while.... i fell asleep at some point there..it is difficult to pin point when...

myself... like i said i am a hardhead, and experienced...i had quite a nice time and lying in bed was quite good also with all the happenings in my head.... it was a good amount for me as a first dose... but since all people are different and ive read many bad reports at less than 30mg, i wouldnt suggest it to anyone, unless you can consume around 12 (18g) fresh copelandia (hawiian) mushrooms while managing not to get yourself killed "wandering" around the streets of amsterdam.... however... further adding 15mg of 2ce didnt do much but make me stoned.....

 

[bip norris]

shulgin put up to 25mg but Stolaroff's & Well's put it at 12-30mg which seems much more reasonable. personally I've been no higher than 28mg - which was a splendid experience - I wouldn't have any quarms about taking a little more. I have had much stronger trips at only 25mg when 2ct-2 seemed to be potentiated by ingesting a psychedelic the day before

 

[cognitor]

another data point for you:

42 mg. nausea and vomiting until the 2 hour point -
a great deal of unpleasant stimulation and muscle spasms.
the whole thing lasted about 7 hours - but in whole
was a very neutral experience. no euphoria or dysphoria.

 

[Jolly Green Giant]

shulgin put up to 25mg but Stolaroff's & Well's put it at 12-30mg which seems much more reasonable. personally I've been no higher than 28mg - which was a splendid experience - I wouldn't have any quarms about taking a little more. I have had much stronger trips at only 25mg when 2ct-2 seemed to be potentiated by ingesting a psychedelic the day before

Although Shulgin put up to 25, he wrote this in Pihkal "Fifty milligrams was a completely effective level. The effects were felt very quickly. Vision was blurred, and there were intense eyes-closed visuals and the generation of a pleasant, contemplative mood. Baseline was re-established in five or six hours, but sleep was restless, with weird dreams"

So he tried/gave up to 50mg.

 

[Keret]

Far as im concerned id say the full blown potential of t2 isn't met below 25mg. 30mg is definitely right up there in the league of deep psychedelics with mescaline, shrooms and ayawaska. Of all synth pea's ive tried -including 2ci 2ct7 and 2cb- 2ct2 is by far the most entheogenic. Smaller doses like 15-20 are also good as psyched eye candy and party material, cool stuff for recreation but not genuinely entheogenic. Less than this id say is a waste of material, go for mdma then.

Unlike what other people have reported i havent had any 'bodyload' as they say below 30. there is some vomiting at the beginning perhaps more than with other psychedelics but the trick to circumvent this is to go step by step overtime like 5mg then 20 min later 5 min and then 5 mg later on and so on til desired dose is reached. no nausea then. also an empty stomach _defnitely_ helps. however i tried once at 35 and well... never again ! muscle spasms beyond the bearbale. another case of steep dose repsonse for bodyload.

 

[Morninggloryseed]

I think I already answered this thread? Oh well. 20mg was the max for me. Any more, and it's too strong to make any use of. 'Cept for T-7 and 2C-B, I'm pretty sensitive to PEAs.

 

[Diver777]

Had my forth 2C-T-2 trip this weekend, 20mg. Previous trips at 14, 18 and 20mg spaced over a few months. Threw up on both the 20mg trips, quite intensely this weekend, both around the 1-2hr mark. Both on empty stomach (8+ hours). First time I was able to smoke weed and curb off most of the nausea, but the latest trip I felt too sick to even smoke a bowl.

Felt fine after about t+2:30 on both trips, which both continued into a very useful entheogenic state of mind with great CEVs and interesting OEVs as well. Back to baseline by 7-8 hours. I've gotten one headache after the first 20mg trip which lasted until I went to slept a few hours later.

I really don't know what to think about this substance. I absolutely hate the first 2 hours, the visuals just make me feel more nausea and I throw up a lot. But, the remainder of the trip is very productive, maybe even more so then with any of the other PEAs I have experience with. The amount of stimulation is fairly minimal after the first few hours, but the mental aspects and CEV stick around a good while longer, especially with a little weed in the later part of the trip.

 

[TheUncreated]

Personally I very much enjoy high doses of 2c-t-2. This might be because I don't experience much body load at all compared to most people who speak of it here. For me, the full entheogenic potential is definitely not reached at low to moderate doses. I have actually taken over 100 mg of the stuff on a few occasions. Some advice I can give to those that have trouble with body load (specifically nausea/vomiting) is to take a benadryl
(Phenylephrine) or two an hour before dosing. Since I've started doing it I've had no trouble with nasty physical side effects.

And secondly, as a disclaimer I must say that I am a pretty big guy and have pretty absurd tolerance to all drugs. i am also very experienced and comfortable with psychedelics, PEAs in particular. So please don't be stupid enough to dive into a dose such as the ones I mentioned if you are new to this compound or aren't perfectly aware of how your body handles it.

Peace

 

[Survived Abortion]

Personally I very much enjoy high doses of 2c-t-2. This might be because I don't experience much body load at all compared to most people who speak of it here. For me, the full entheogenic potential is definitely not reached at low to moderate doses. I have actually taken over 100 mg of the stuff on a few occasions. Some advice I can give to those that have trouble with body load (specifically nausea/vomiting) is to take a benadryl
(Phenylephrine) or two an hour before dosing. Since I've started doing it I've had no trouble with nasty physical side effects.

And secondly, as a disclaimer I must say that I am a pretty big guy and have pretty absurd tolerance to all drugs. i am also very experienced and comfortable with psychedelics, PEAs in particular. So please don't be stupid enough to dive into a dose such as the ones I mentioned if you are new to this compound or aren't perfectly aware of how your body handles it.

Peace

Agreed.

I usually use high doses with 2c-t-2, most always in the 75-100mg range, staggered in 25-30mg doses. Most often I will start out with a 25mg oral dose, followed by another 25-30mg dose an hour later. Effects usually begin around the second hour, and again I will most often bolster with a 25mg rectal dose. To keep the experience full on, I usually boost with another 25mg rectal dose after the peak subsides. Sometimes I will start out with a rectal dose and an oral dose simultaneously (25mg and 25mg) and then another simultaneous rectal and oral dose an hour and a half in.

2c-t-2 is my main entheogenic sacrament, and indeed it is a full-out entheogen. It is for sure my favourite route to bridging the schism between the corrupt consciousness and Her divine majesty, Sophia. Rectal doses are very potent and come on fast. Low doses are always welcome, and very pretty, very soothing. However, to melt in to the Gaian matrix and have total surrender to Sophia the doses need to be cranked.

Love love love

 

[RandomGuy123]

Around 40MG.

 

[greenmeanies]

Some advice I can give to those that have trouble with body load (specifically nausea/vomiting) is to take a benadryl
(Phenylephrine) or two an hour before dosing. Since I've started doing it I've had no trouble with nasty physical side effects.

sorry, i don't mean to nitpick, but this is one case where i must intervene

Benadryl or Unisom (diphenhydramine) 25-50mg is effective in reducing or eliminating the bodyload and nausea associated with PEAs.

Sudafed PE (phenylephrine) is the drug that replaced Original Sudafed (pseudoephedrine) in over-the-counter nasal decongestant, and both of these drugs will probably INCREASE any phen body load by adding to the vasoconstriction and stimulant jitteryness.

 

[TheUncreated]

Greenmeanies, thanks for that. I did that post pretty quickly. Forgive me everyone, diphenhydramine is correct.

SA, glad someone out there understands the joys of massive t-2 dosing!

 

[Si Dread]

Unlike what other people have reported i havent had any 'bodyload' as they say below 30. there is some vomiting at the beginning perhaps more than with other psychedelics but the trick to circumvent this is to go step by step overtime like 5mg then 20 min later 5 min and then 5 mg later on and so on til desired dose is reached. no nausea then. also an empty stomach _defnitely_ helps. however i tried once at 35 and well... never again ! muscle spasms beyond the bearbale. another case of steep dose repsonse for bodyload.

I can vouch for this... I'm very sensitive so my doses are proportionately lower & was cautiously testing a fresh batch but I recently OJ'd 15mg of t-2. Onset was slow & quite nauseating, worse than the last time I did it, in June. In June I had the same dose from an older batch, 10mg, followed 60mins later by 5mg & I noticed no obvious nausea, just a light-headedness that wasnt particularly pleasant but eased quickly. On the June dose I had no hangover, but on the recent batch both travellers got headaches on the return to baseline.

I'm quite happy with low, enviroment enhancing hits but may ease up slowly with this, perhaps with a 6mg/6mg/6mg hourly, next time. See if we can mitigate the nausea altogether. However, 2c's in general have quite a steep effect curve & only a few mg's up can change the effects majorly, especially in new users. The long-acting nature of these chems (other than 2c-c) means successive doses should be administered with care & with proper, sensible spacing.

I might add that cannabis was consumed on both occassions, & that we both took travel-sickness tabs this recent time as well as ginger & peppermint, to no avail. So, a good joint with a staggered dose of t-2 seems to work better than joint/ginger/peppermint/travel-sickness tabs did with single a dose when reducing nausea!

& whats this about t-2 being a potentially dangerous chemical? This is news to me! Obviously, everything's dangerous to a degree but I think in low doses, t-2 feels less than harmful, almost beneficial! There's certainly a beneficial after-glow, I get a very refreshed psyche after a mild, enjoyable trip & I found this with shrooms too. In fact, alot about t-2 reminds me of shrooms!

And secondly, as a disclaimer I must say that I am a pretty big guy and have pretty absurd tolerance to all drugs. i am also very experienced and comfortable with psychedelics, PEAs in particular. So please don't be stupid enough to dive into a dose such as the ones I mentioned if you are new to this compound or aren't perfectly aware of how your body handles it.

Peace

Nice job!

 

[guerillabedlam]

50 mgs, amazing Closed eye visuals. Didn't have much going on with Open eyes but I had a pretty dull room which is where I basically spent the whole trip. One of the 'deeper' 2c compounds.

 

[trippingguy83]

craziest trip ive ever had. is 20 to 24 mg snorted a lot? is it right when someone says its suggestive? Because ive read a forum quote and a guy on youtube confirm this and I can confirm it myself with my trip which i freaked out. its like what youre thinking of is just there....it seems so real... i hope someday i can explore this chemical again if i ever find it again. and with greater maturity and preparedness.

it was not only the hardest trip of my life, it was the worst trip of my life, and one of the worst times of my life.