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The Big & Dandy 4-HO-MET Thread

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Just placed an order for this from Europe, hope it makes it into the US :!

Could anyone attest to one's ability to ride a bicycle on 4-HO-MET?
 
While this thread is bumped, has anyone experienced a 2Cx & 4-HO-MET combination before?

Next week I'm planning to have a moderate dose of 2C-C (30-40mg) then a 20mg dose of 4-HO-MET about 4-5 hours later. I'm just concerned there might be some sort of cross-tolerance which would affect the strength of the 4-HO-MET.
 
Just ordered 250mg of this stuff... I'm totally excited about it. No anxiety or fear of what it holds, and i've always been scared of psychedelics!

MagickalKat777, thank you so much for clearing up my fear of trying psychedelics again. i don't know how you did it (didn't think it was possible) but you convinced me to not only lose my fear of trying them again but also become gitty about it! I appreciate your input in the thread i made earlier.

Become a bluelighter and your wish may be granted!

I'm almost there!

This sounds really interesting, so it produces lsd like visuals without any of the mental effects?

-djstrip

--edit--

I'm officially a bluelighter.
 
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Just placed an order for this from Europe, hope it makes it into the US :!

Could anyone attest to one's ability to ride a bicycle on 4-HO-MET?

No, but I can attest to how awesome it is to climb on my roof, or scale the gum tree in my backyard :)

I find 4-HO-MET very suggestive; like, "hey man, wanna climb this huge fuckin' tree!?"
"YES!!"

Everything sounds like an amazing idea, and I always seem to resort to being a child. Even playing with old Hot Wheels cars was awesome! :D
 
This stuff is intense.
It really took me by suprise actually, and was not what I had seen other folk report it as. I had pre-conceived ideas based on others' reports (tut-tut) that it is a mild eye-candy or mushrooms without depth. It is completely different from psilocybe mushrooms, just like 4-ho-dipt is: the 4-substituted tryptamines are way too often compared with shrooms. And it has depth.

A starter museum dose opened up to a splendid walk in the park, autumn colours, trees, grass, nature, dogs, children, clouds, opening up the heart chakra. Later it turned more intense, with fractal twigs against the sky flashing erotic neon lights around them. Things around my house never before noticed. Conifer trees surrounded with jeweled colours that really synaesthetically stimulate the opening of chakras from bottom up, with intensity centered around the lower chakras. Two rectal booster doses blasted my head inside-out. Literally seeing my thoughts, my ego reflected on the outslide sensorium. Close to complete ego-dissolution. Mischievous elf-like reflection of the entangled mind, like being in a hall of mirrors and asking questions, and getting silly but completely sensible answers. Fully engulfed CEVs like an Alex Grey painting, looking at the inner light in hyperspace, showing every knot and tangle where thoughtforms have gone bad and need correcting. Tentacles of light radiating out from an inner core, meditation on controlling thoughts and smoothing out the loose cannons and masculine dominance. Needing the Divine Feminine. I'm asking Sophia (Holiest of Holies) what is real in the sensorium, but I get only mischievous answers from this elven personality. Absolute hilarious surrender to Sophia, and the re-realization that we know next to nothing about it all, about Her world.

A second milder experience at a Goldfrapp show was perfect. All the mischievous silliness there again in the lights, and people's faces. Emotional, tears on the way home, feel like going back to being a baby and not ashamed. Trying to take the whole of Sophia's imagination into my head, cartoon-like joke of simultaneous wonder/surrender. Spiritual orgasm on the train - erotic, teasing jeweled colours from fluorescent lights.

Both times I've used 4-ho-met have been huge experiences. For me, what characterizes the nature of this experience is an initial eye-candy lift, with very natural and smooth body feelings. Then as it gets further in, more jovial and emotional attatchment to the sheer colours and visual suprises. Slight mischievous mind-fuck. Slight eroticism. As it progresses a few hours, colours become ridiculous - neon auras and super-saturated hues. Becomes very erotic. Immersive CEVs, ego and boundary dissolution. Spiritual contact. Difficult to sleep afterwards.
 
^ i was one of those who quickly came to regard metocin as underwhelming and a bit sterile (tho nothing like mushrooms!), but your report contains many aspects that are still quite consistent with my experiences -

a certain visual generosity
emphasis on lower chakras
playful, mischevious, silly
feminine
erotic


thanks for the report, nice to know it's not a dud for everybody ;)<3
 
This stuff is intense.
It really took me by suprise actually, and was not what I had seen other folk report it as. I had pre-conceived ideas based on others' reports (tut-tut) that it is a mild eye-candy or mushrooms without depth. It is completely different from psilocybe mushrooms, just like 4-ho-dipt is: the 4-substituted tryptamines are way too often compared with shrooms. And it has depth.

A starter museum dose opened up to a splendid walk in the park, autumn colours, trees, grass, nature, dogs, children, clouds, opening up the heart chakra. Later it turned more intense, with fractal twigs against the sky flashing erotic neon lights around them. Things around my house never before noticed. Conifer trees surrounded with jeweled colours that really synaesthetically stimulate the opening of chakras from bottom up, with intensity centered around the lower chakras. Two rectal booster doses blasted my head inside-out. Literally seeing my thoughts, my ego reflected on the outslide sensorium. Close to complete ego-dissolution. Mischievous elf-like reflection of the entangled mind, like being in a hall of mirrors and asking questions, and getting silly but completely sensible answers. Fully engulfed CEVs like an Alex Grey painting, looking at the inner light in hyperspace, showing every knot and tangle where thoughtforms have gone bad and need correcting. Tentacles of light radiating out from an inner core, meditation on controlling thoughts and smoothing out the loose cannons and masculine dominance. Needing the Divine Feminine. I'm asking Sophia (Holiest of Holies) what is real in the sensorium, but I get only mischievous answers from this elven personality. Absolute hilarious surrender to Sophia, and the re-realization that we know next to nothing about it all, about Her world.

A second milder experience at a Goldfrapp show was perfect. All the mischievous silliness there again in the lights, and people's faces. Emotional, tears on the way home, feel like going back to being a baby and not ashamed. Trying to take the whole of Sophia's imagination into my head, cartoon-like joke of simultaneous wonder/surrender. Spiritual orgasm on the train - erotic, teasing jeweled colours from fluorescent lights.

Both times I've used 4-ho-met have been huge experiences. For me, what characterizes the nature of this experience is an initial eye-candy lift, with very natural and smooth body feelings. Then as it gets further in, more jovial and emotional attatchment to the sheer colours and visual suprises. Slight mischievous mind-fuck. Slight eroticism. As it progresses a few hours, colours become ridiculous - neon auras and super-saturated hues. Becomes very erotic. Immersive CEVs, ego and boundary dissolution. Spiritual contact. Difficult to sleep afterwards.

^ i was one of those who quickly came to regard metocin as underwhelming and a bit sterile (tho nothing like mushrooms!), but your report contains many aspects that are still quite consistent with my experiences -

a certain visual generosity
emphasis on lower chakras
playful, mischevious, silly
feminine
erotic


thanks for the report, nice to know it's not a dud for everybody ;)<3
Alright guys, after a report like that, I'm on a mission now! I just have to think positive, I'm going to find 4-ho-met =D.

-djstrip
 
Just did some 4-HO-MET from reliable source today. First time trying after any psychedelics in years. Must say, tryptamines might be where it's at. PEAs are bit too unnatural feeling and pushy.

This stuff is great as far as i can tell. Doesn't seem like it's possible to have a bad trip on this substance, your opinion of what's going on is far too objective... it's great both socially and introspectively.

Laughter was incessant with friends, uncontrollable, the more you try not to laugh the harder it was to stop.... and alone, it can be introspective, not mind-blowing, but bit of inner contemplation was well-facilitated through this chemical.

Have tried both Oral and Nasal doses. Nasal being the preference, after sampling how nice [and forgiving] this stuff is i'm certainly going to look for its cousins.
 
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It definitely has mental effects, but it's quite gentle & mild considering the nice visuals you get from it.
 
Definitely going to do 4-ho-met again soon. I had no mind-fuck really, the occasional "wtf" moment from what i saw but it wasn't bad by any means.

Thank god i got plenty leftover=D

And PS.
i get way more mind-fuck from weed than i do this... but weed has become my least favorite drug these days, nothing but paranoid, anxiety, and a feeling of stupor.
This stuff has a DXM-esque feeling on the come-up, and leaves you feeling sober, you don't feel drunk or intoxicated. I was confident going out in public on something like this... maybe this is what all tryptamines are like?
 
I've run out of this stuff now. But the combo with DPT yesterday was absolutely amazing. :D
 
took this yesterday.. gf really enjoyed it, not as much as her 4-aco-dmt experience but she preferred it to 2ce and 2ci. We dosed 15mg each, I don't wanna say it gave me anxiety but it was actually the darkest trip I've had so far.. slightly visual, especially compared to my gf's 4-aco-dmt trip which sounded almost like DMT. Going to have to research further in higher range, but I really understand how metocin is medicine now, very theraputic. The setting was fantastic as well, first day of snow yesterday, got to watch all my neighbors playing in it and we had our tree up which had some nice visuals coming off the shadows. Also similar to my 4-aco-dmt trip, instead of talking like crazy I was actually pretty quiet the whole time.
 
Has anyone tried this IM? I've gotten the feeling that IM is a excellent way to experience simple tryptamines (feeling obtained from this thread). It didn't really need to convince me much though, as I had already planned on trying it IM at least once.

So, any adventurous BL'ers with a tale to share? :)
 
Can anyone attest to their experiences with the fumarate vs hcl? What fumarate dose would be equivalent to an HCL dose?
 
Definitely going to do 4-ho-met again soon. I had no mind-fuck really, the occasional "wtf" moment from what i saw but it wasn't bad by any means.

Thank god i got plenty leftover=D

And PS.
i get way more mind-fuck from weed than i do this... but weed has become my least favorite drug these days, nothing but paranoid, anxiety, and a feeling of stupor.
This stuff has a DXM-esque feeling on the come-up, and leaves you feeling sober, you don't feel drunk or intoxicated. I was confident going out in public on something like this... maybe this is what all tryptamines are like?

That's pretty much how I feel about weed now as well. I think I just burned myself out on it and after dropping acid, the feeling of growth and spiritual enlightenment is better then anything I ever got from bud. Still like a little bud here and there, just not like I used to.

-djstrip
 
Doesn't seem like it's possible to have a bad trip on this substance

It is possible.

Then again the same guy also had a bit of a freak out off MDMA so it is probably more down to the person than the drug.
 
It is possible.

Then again the same guy also had a bit of a freak out off MDMA so it is probably more down to the person than the drug.

lol, I've had a bad time on MDMA...

I didn't like the pushy stimulant crowding in on my LSD trip...

Screw europe...my order never came, and i don't think its coming, ill have to try again, because I really wanna add this to my stockpile of 4-aco-dmt lol
 
I've run out of this stuff now. But the combo with DPT yesterday was absolutely amazing. :D

I did this the other day and it ripped my head off.

I most always have very useful, calm, and meditative experiences with DPT. It seems nothing if not pragmatic in its approach, allowing you to systematically analyze and play with the 'interface' between body and spirit.

This time, I decided to use a high dose of DPT at the floating-down period of a 4-ho-met experience (which itself had been extremely useful, spiritually rewarding, and beautiful). I don't often IV DPT, but I had let my level of control over desire slide, and was seeking the big one that DPT'ers write about. I got chastised hard by Mother Nature for the wreckless way in which I went about this. Half-way through the injection my throat and tounge started to go numb, so I thought I'd better hurry up and finish the shot. I almost finished the barrel, because my head was floating away into a pressure zone of sonic madness, and my heart started beating about thrice it's normal pace. So I'm sitting there with a needle hanging out my arm dripping blood from an extravated vein, and the room is turning into huge vibrating tentacles of cause and effect, the karmic ramifications of damage reverberating dischordant geometries along the ontological threshold of its warped liminal precipice, shimmering with urgency in the Holy light.

I had to go to the hospital to get my vein sorted out. The walk there was a cosmic embarassment. A very powerful lesson from our divine Mother to respect the body.

Thank you Sophia.
 
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