How toxic is Mephedrone?

[activity111]

yepp had the same feeling
but its not getting better .... either i did too much (binge binge binge) or i also have a cold

i would also like to add that snorting it , it does irritate your uvula (that little thing that hangs in your mouth.) and throat also .... its corrosive shit ... damn why am i doing this shit ? its EVIL !!!!!
not addicted to it but starting to feel like i am ...

but as i

 

[Xamkou]

I get a cold hand when I'm on the computer cos it's exposed! Bloody Mephedrone! :D

 

[Scald]

I did Meph a couple nights ago, initially intended it as a low dose test to find out the threshold effects... it ended up with 600mg right up the nose (and I've only ever done a line of a crushed up pill before, nothing else). Shit is very hard to resist doing more of, because you really really want to. Definately have to say though, don't take this shit if all you're going to do is sit around on your computer, I'm sure the vasoconstriction concerns would be greatly helped if you actually got off your ass and moved around.

Honestly, really enjoyable drug but also very dangerous, the day after I did have a strong urge to do more (I resisted obviously). I may be doing it again in a week and a half but it'll be at a rave so going into it me and a friend will have preplanned/measured doses and won't bring any more, taking it 2-3 times orally that night should give us a good time and a good duration without unnecessary health risks. Note the "not bringing any extra" bit, because I know for a fact I'd take more.

Something else to note: This shit burns when you rail it, but you rapidly stop caring. Hell after ONE night of heavy nose abuse I'd actually enjoy the burn of snorting Meph, it's already built up such a strong positive association. Taking this stuff ends up being a battle of how addictive your personality is vs. your strength of will, I have a very addictive personality which I often (and enjoyably) give in to, but I always have my force of will on standby to say no once it becomes dangerous... not everyone has that buffer.

 

[vortex30]

It's a matter of how addictive your personality is, how strongly willed you are AND how bad the side-effects become (+ your respect for your long-term health). I was on a downward spiral, things were gonna get A LOT worse before they got better if my heart didn't start aching all the time, sharp, shooting pains at time, if I didn't wake up feeling like I had gotten in a fight every night, and if my entire body wasn't in pain. I felt about 60-70 years old, the way my health was going (I was 19 at the time). I couldn't continue to abuse my body that way, so last new year's, after my worst month of drug abuse ever (especially Christmas to New Years, but 98 hours awake at the start of Dec too), I said I'm done. That lasted 3 weeks. Then mid-February I had a MAJOR sess when I went to visit some friends in Quebec, up for 3 days, blacked out one night after taking probably 600mg bomb, took a plane home to Toronto and had 300mg before take-off, etc. Grabbed some Dilaudid that night, took some the next day and thought I would seriously die that day. Still wasn't done. Hahaha. But, my mind was shifting ever since new years and I knew it had to stop. Finished what I had May 13th, after the UK ban (where I only knew how to get meph from), and well...Haven't had any since and won't ever again.

Wasn't a matter of will power though, more a matter of utter fear for the direction that my life and health was headed.

 

[pofacedhoe]

it's a matter of how addictive your personality is, how strongly willed you are and how bad the side-effects become (+ your respect for your long-term health). I was on a downward spiral, things were gonna get a lot worse before they got better if my heart didn't start aching all the time, sharp, shooting pains at time, if i didn't wake up feeling like i had gotten in a fight every night, and if my entire body wasn't in pain. I felt about 60-70 years old, the way my health was going (i was 19 at the time). I couldn't continue to abuse my body that way, so last new year's, after my worst month of drug abuse ever (especially christmas to new years, but 98 hours awake at the start of dec too), i said i'm done. That lasted 3 weeks. Then mid-february i had a major sess when i went to visit some friends in quebec, up for 3 days, blacked out one night after taking probably 600mg bomb, took a plane home to toronto and had 300mg before take-off, etc. Grabbed some dilaudid that night, took some the next day and thought i would seriously die that day. Still wasn't done. Hahaha. But, my mind was shifting ever since new years and i knew it had to stop. Finished what i had may 13th, after the uk ban (where i only knew how to get meph from), and well...haven't had any since and won't ever again.

Wasn't a matter of will power though, more a matter of utter fear for the direction that my life and health was headed.

qft

 

[LSDMDMA&AMP]

looks like a pimple or something
it looks liek you could probably pop it and pus would come out or something
thats just my opinion tho

 

[activity111]

sorry i deleted my previous post ... and yes it is some pimple stuff thingy ... the "lines" are not visible anymore today
i got a bit too scared i guess

 

[alex1236]

moderate usage + self control ? hahh
i came to realize there isnt such thing when taking meph

Moderate use and self control is possible.

I had 7 grams of mephedrone when it was legal. I took out 1/2 gram with me on big nights (mostly once a month) which I would let my mates 'dab' A festival I took 1. I had some fantastic nights, the first few I would compare to the first time I took Ecstasy (without the emotion) I did get a bit of the cold hands and feet but I get that anyway.

I havent had it for about maybe 4 months now, if I had the option to buy another few grams off the website I did then I would

No harm done, in fact, in the mornings I felt no worse than an alcohol hangover

 

[ColtDan]

ive done it for over a year, once a week, never exceeding 500mg. had some amazing times. but some awful come downs. problem is i mix it with alcohol, im sure it makes things worse

 

[7zark7]

ive done it for over a year, once a week, never exceeding 500mg. had some amazing times. but some awful come downs. problem is i mix it with alcohol, im sure it makes things worse

I never mixed meph with alcohol and never had a comedown (besides tiredness from lack of sleep!) from it. Never went crazy on the stuff though… I actually miss it since it's been criminalised!

 

[wakeboardosurf]

This is my drone story, it is my point of view of the past few months as it regards to mephedrone, i absolutely love this stuff, and i know its probably an ever growing problem every time i do it. but i very much enjoy it, and take breaks every few days! THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT...


TIPS

IF YOU DO NOT HAVE GOOD SELF CONTROL OR ARE ADDICTION PRONE BY NATURE....THIS CAN AND WILL RUIN YOUR LIFE! Ive seen people pawn everything and sell their car just to get it, and these guys were shooting it up..

It is VERY hard to have it in your possession and NOT do it if you have been on it for any amount of time more than a few minuets.

You may get an idea in your head that something is really important, or doing something in particular is important, or just an idea that takes over and makes you do stupid things trying to fix it, and then wake up the next day just to realize it was ALL IN YOUR HEAD! It WASNT a big deal at ALL!

I get very talkative, and i have connected with so many people in the past few months! Im kinda of a quiet guy unless i really know you well, and this stuff in moderation really helps me connect! I have added probably a hundred new numbers in my phone these past few months! Sometimes I AM the LIFE of the PARTY! Thats SUCH a good feeling! Its amazing! Im a nice guy, and people on drone love nice! Being nice on drone is so amazing, but, lol, sometimes stupid/ignorant/know-it-all people who cant understand what im trying to say, kinda make me mad, and il snap sometimes :/

PAST FEW MONTHS

Ive been taking Mephedrone for about 4 months now, I was introduced to it by a best friend who was fortunate enough to get a GOOD connection. The first few weeks i only had to do a couple or few hundred milligrams (i bought a milligram scale for this stuff) theres ten doses in a gram, and i would get at least .1-.3 every night. By the time the first month went by, i was staying up till 4-6 AM every night! Ahh we had some awesome fun though. then his connection went to rehab, which is where he is now, and my friend moved back home and he is luckily my neighbor! We went 2 weeks without ANY drone, and il tell you what, i felt SO tired for 3-6 days. like i could HARDLY make myself get out of bed and do
ANYTHING AT ALL! Ahhhh it suckeeeedddd. Buttt i started running, and doing things, and that REALLY helped! I was so surprised in how bad of shape i was! I went from having energy and stamina, to not even being able to run up the stairs without having to sit down from passing out! Man idk about all that now, it scares me! Well the other week he found a new "source" for drone, and all the time we didn't have it i was sending money to different people online trying to get a legit source, but no such luck. Me, my boss, a girl i know and a couple i know all tried this new drone my friend had found recently, it was REALLY fluffy, and it burned really bad!!! LIKE BAD BAD, usually drone burns bad but its never made me gag like this shit did. Everyone experienced it about the same, NO REAL JACKED UP FEELING, AND HARDLY ANY ROLL! And the WORST part is that the next 3 days i felt like i had the flu! Throwing up and everything... It was horrible! I have no idea what it was, but it wasnt like the drone ive come to know and love! WELL now, its been about a month since that bullshit happened, and

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And since im young and dont HAVE alot of money to be spending on this, i buy only a gram a day, or 3 at most. I then sit aside the portion i have to sell to make my money back (WHICH IS HARD SOMETIMES) and re-up again, and then i do the rest!

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[Repulse]

A non-stimulant using friend took 3-400mg mephedrone this weekend over the course of a few hours, snorted.

He overdosed, and suffered tachycardia (pulse upwards of 160) and hypertension (very tense muscles). He became quite hostile and oblivious to his surroundings. Did not care to the fact that his best friends were trying to calm him down, and me and him called an ambulance. They struggled keeping him calm and lying down, and we couldn't get through to him.

That was approx. at 5 am. When in the hospital, he was moved to the acute/emergency unit approx 7 am, where he was given sedatives for the hypertensive muscle response, and to calm his tachycardia. After that, he calmed down, and at 1 pm the next day, we were allowed to exit the hospital - he was fine after getting some sleep.

Second time this happens to people I know (first time for him, of course) and I decided never to take this stuff ever again, threw the last of the bag out. Never experienced it like that first hand.

Take care out there!

 

[activity111]

This is my drone story, it is my point of view of the past few months as it regards to mephedrone, i absolutely love this stuff, and i know its probably an ever growing problem every time i do it. but i very much enjoy it, and take breaks every few days! THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT...


TIPS

IF YOU DO NOT HAVE GOOD SELF CONTROL OR ARE ADDICTION PRONE BY NATURE....THIS CAN AND WILL RUIN YOUR LIFE! Ive seen people pawn everything and sell their car just to get it, and these guys were shooting it up..

It is VERY hard to have it in your possession and NOT do it if you have been on it for any amount of time more than a few minuets.

You may get an idea in your head that something is really important, or doing something in particular is important, or just an idea that takes over and makes you do stupid things trying to fix it, and then wake up the next day just to realize it was ALL IN YOUR HEAD! It WASNT a big deal at ALL!

I get very talkative, and i have connected with so many people in the past few months! Im kinda of a quiet guy unless i really know you well, and this stuff in moderation really helps me connect! I have added probably a hundred new numbers in my phone these past few months! Sometimes I AM the LIFE of the PARTY! Thats SUCH a good feeling! Its amazing! Im a nice guy, and people on drone love nice! Being nice on drone is so amazing, but, lol, sometimes stupid/ignorant/know-it-all people who cant understand what im trying to say, kinda make me mad, and il snap sometimes :/

PAST FEW MONTHS

Ive been taking Mephedrone for about 4 months now, I was introduced to it by a best friend who was fortunate enough to get a GOOD connection. The first few weeks i only had to do a couple or few hundred milligrams (i bought a milligram scale for this stuff) theres ten doses in a gram, and i would get at least .1-.3 every night. By the time the first month went by, i was staying up till 4-6 AM every night! Ahh we had some awesome fun though. then his connection went to rehab, which is where he is now, and my friend moved back home and he is luckily my neighbor! We went 2 weeks without ANY drone, and il tell you what, i felt SO tired for 3-6 days. like i could HARDLY make myself get out of bed and do
ANYTHING AT ALL! Ahhhh it suckeeeedddd. Buttt i started running, and doing things, and that REALLY helped! I was so surprised in how bad of shape i was! I went from having energy and stamina, to not even being able to run up the stairs without having to sit down from passing out! Man idk about all that now, it scares me! Well the other week he found a new "source" for drone, and all the time we didn't have it i was sending money to different people online trying to get a legit source, but no such luck. Me, my boss, a girl i know and a couple i know all tried this new drone my friend had found recently, it was REALLY fluffy, and it burned really bad!!! LIKE BAD BAD, usually drone burns bad but its never made me gag like this shit did. Everyone experienced it about the same, NO REAL JACKED UP FEELING, AND HARDLY ANY ROLL! And the WORST part is that the next 3 days i felt like i had the flu! Throwing up and everything... It was horrible! I have no idea what it was, but it wasnt like the drone ive come to know and love! WELL now, its been about a month since that bullshit happened, and I have recently found one really nice and very reliable source, and its the tiny tiny crystaly lookin drone! And since im young and dont HAVE alot of money to be spending on this, i buy only a gram a day, or 3 at most. I then sit aside the portion i have to sell to make my money back (WHICH IS HARD SOMETIMES) and re-up again, and then i do the rest! Today i met another source, and its the big crystaly drone! This guy is well plugged in, and im looking forward to our future... THE CRYSTALY DRONE IS AMAZING LOL! It is WAY better than the powder! Re-crystalized is the way to go!


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DUDE !!!

Better cut all sources and snap back to reality, better do coke or anything else no matter if its 4-5x-10x the price ... not like im doing any of that.
I had my share of meph and thank you very much i just realized stimulants fuck you up badly.
BUT meph ... pffff its tottaly different thing, imho if poison poison poison ... with a bit of euphoria ... mehhh ... F F F that , really.

Can only advise everyone to stay the heck away from this VERY VERY TOXIC RESEARCH CHEMICAL.

Its not just neuro and cardio toxic, but it damages your whole body, like a bad poison would do, it also messes with your blood sugar levels .

NASTY NASTY NASTY.
Hope i recover fast .

Dont even want to hear from this.

 

[10below]

I really wish I would have found this thread yesterday. I did what I believe to be 'Mephedrone' called 'Cloud 9 High Quality Bath Salts' and I definitely regret it. I only did .25 of a gram, but it has made me realize that I don't want to do any drugs any longer, except for pot.

But the worst thing is I turned on my girl who I dearly love. I haven't talked to her yet today but I hope she is feeling okay, she did a lot less than I did.

I'm hoping these side effects go away. My brain is working really slow and I'm having trouble typing and just thinking in general. This stuff is definitely not worth it. I can't believe how fucking stupid I am for doing this. I hope this feeling of zombieness leaves soon... and I hope my motor skills aren't permantely fucked.

 

[Ralt]

I really wish I would have found this thread yesterday. I did what I believe to be 'Mephedrone' called 'Cloud 9 High Quality Bath Salts' and I definitely regret it. I only did .25 of a gram, but it has made me realize that I don't want to do any drugs any longer, except for pot.

But the worst thing is I turned on my girl who I dearly love. I haven't talked to her yet today but I hope she is feeling okay, she did a lot less than I did.

I'm hoping these side effects go away. My brain is working really slow and I'm having trouble typing and just thinking in general. This stuff is definitely not worth it. I can't believe how fucking stupid I am for doing this. I hope this feeling of zombieness leaves soon... and I hope my motor skills aren't permantely fucked.

That doesn't sound like mephedrone at all. Especially turning on someone you love, 10 out of 10 times, people who love each other tend to hug and rub each other on meph, the word "angry" isn't even really possible.

 

[10below]

That doesn't sound like mephedrone at all. Especially turning on someone you love, 10 out of 10 times, people who love each other tend to hug and rub each other on meph, the word "angry" isn't even really possible.

Oh, no, I mean 'turned on' like 'turned her on to the drug', not like turned violent on her. And I was worried about her not answering the phone because she left saying she was really exhausted and I was hoping she hadn't passed in her sleep.

I'm thinking now, from other readings, that the substance may have been this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MDPV

 

[Xbob]

Here are my experiences with 4-MMC. I've used drugs extensively in the past, particularly alcohol, amphetamine sulphate, MDMA, LSD, mushrooms, cannabis, tobacco, cocaine and various other drugs such as ketamine, 2cb and some pharmaceutical opiates and benzos to a lesser extent. I've been a tee-total non-smoker for the past 3 or so years and I don't take any drugs that I consider I've had a problem with in the past which basically means that I take a little cannabis and a little MDMA occasionally these days in controlled circumstances.
Since giving up a wreckhead lifestyle I've become something of a fitness fanatic and I play football (soccer) very regularly. I tried 4-MMC a couple of times out of interest because I felt it fitted my criteria for drugs I will take these days i.e. I've never had a problem with it and I'm unlikely to be in regular contact with it. The first time I snorted 2 small lines, approximately 100mg each and then on the second occasion I bombed 600mg in two 300mg doses. While I did enjoy the experience to some extent I didn't find it anywhere near as good as MDMA and I thought it was more like poor quality cocaine and I found the compulsion to redose unbearable, to the point that I went home to avoid taking more than I had planned to. I took some benzos (nitrazepam) and went to sleep. I felt a bit rough the next day with some symptoms like I had a common cold. The next day I played football and this is where I ran into problems. I felt totally unfit, like I hadn't exercised for a long time. My heart felt like it was going to burst out of my chest and I poured with sweat. I was well off the pace and really struggled to complete the game. It took me several weeks to get back my fitness levels after this and I vowed not to do 4-MMC again because of this effect. I'm convinced that this drug is really not good for you at all. I'm well in touch with my body and I felt poisoned by this drug. I'm not the only member of my football team who it has adversely affected. I think it's totally ruined the fitness of one guy who has used it heavily and I really don't think he'll ever be the same player which is unfortunate because he is talented. That's my anecdotal evidence anyway, for what it's worth. Which probably isn't much.

 

[simstimstar]

That doesn't sound like mephedrone at all. Especially turning on someone you love, 10 out of 10 times, people who love each other tend to hug and rub each other on meph, the word "angry" isn't even really possible.

While this is normally true, it isn't always. I got amphetamine psychosis after staying up over a week on mephedrone (only had 1 or two nights sleep before staying up 5 or 6 days before that) and attacked my cousin, who I love like a brother, for no reason. I still have a scar on my knee and above my eye from where the cops tackled me.

And as for MDPV...there are things I did on MDPV that I will never speak of with any other living person except my buddy who was right there with me. You can't even imagine, just know you don't ever want to go so far down that hole.

MDPV and mephedrone are both extremely addictive. MDPV in particular will quickly degenerate into paranoia, anxiety, and psychosis. Especially if you are smoking it (best high) or IV'ing it (or in my case both).

Would I do either again, yes. Would I ever want to stay up and binge for days like I did on both, never.

Cheers, and be safe.
-SimStim

UPDATE - Also, of the two MDPV feels much safer on the body, but the euphoria is only a fraction of that from 4-mmc, and for some the anxiety is unbearable. I have seen people take one hit smoking MDPV and get up and leave the house because of panic attack.

 

[sundayraver]

This has turned into a mephedrone experiences thread. Any more scientific facts regarding this drug?

 

[activity111]

Here are my experiences with 4-MMC. I've used drugs extensively in the past, particularly alcohol, amphetamine sulphate, MDMA, LSD, mushrooms, cannabis, tobacco, cocaine and various other drugs such as ketamine, 2cb and some pharmaceutical opiates and benzos to a lesser extent. I've been a tee-total non-smoker for the past 3 or so years and I don't take any drugs that I consider I've had a problem with in the past which basically means that I take a little cannabis and a little MDMA occasionally these days in controlled circumstances.
Since giving up a wreckhead lifestyle I've become something of a fitness fanatic and I play football (soccer) very regularly. I tried 4-MMC a couple of times out of interest because I felt it fitted my criteria for drugs I will take these days i.e. I've never had a problem with it and I'm unlikely to be in regular contact with it. The first time I snorted 2 small lines, approximately 100mg each and then on the second occasion I bombed 600mg in two 300mg doses. While I did enjoy the experience to some extent I didn't find it anywhere near as good as MDMA and I thought it was more like poor quality cocaine and I found the compulsion to redose unbearable, to the point that I went home to avoid taking more than I had planned to. I took some benzos (nitrazepam) and went to sleep. I felt a bit rough the next day with some symptoms like I had a common cold. The next day I played football and this is where I ran into problems. I felt totally unfit, like I hadn't exercised for a long time. My heart felt like it was going to burst out of my chest and I poured with sweat. I was well off the pace and really struggled to complete the game. It took me several weeks to get back my fitness levels after this and I vowed not to do 4-MMC again because of this effect. I'm convinced that this drug is really not good for you at all. I'm well in touch with my body and I felt poisoned by this drug. I'm not the only member of my football team who it has adversely affected. I think it's totally ruined the fitness of one guy who has used it heavily and I really don't think he'll ever be the same player which is unfortunate because he is talented. That's my anecdotal evidence anyway, for what it's worth. Which probably isn't much.

Hello
While it might not be much it still tells us a lot about this crappy substance that so many abuse.
Thinking that a soccer (hobby) player would be FIT and HEALTHY ... at least if someone would play weekly his circulation would be better then for those who dont exercise so much.
So thinking about this + reading what you wrote : " I felt totally unfit, like I hadn't exercised for a long time. " just makes me think about HOW bad this is for your circulation.
Just think about it.
CARDIO TOXIC & OTHER TOXIC
People should learn about this imho and stop doing all sorts of new crappy untested substances.
I totally understand you and am sorry for your friend , hope you all get better and fit again ... and i hope I get better and fit again soon. After a 2+1/2 week (with sleep & eating & little breaks) i felt like poisoned .... my body is still recovering after 2 weeks of not using it.
I did a little bit of exercise since, i am smoking ... but less then before ... my fingertips look redder then normal and my hands get blotchy at times, sux. Big toes "inner" part are numbish ... sux

Do anything else like MDMA, coke, anythng else but not 4-MMC poison or other dubious RC's.
Cheers