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How dangerous is Ecstasy anyway?

So you're all telling me to use it the right way, you know what would be helpful with that? Telling me what 'the right way' is.
 
yeah the risk is to your mental health. it made me mentally ill. biggest mistake of my life so be careful.

the right way is to do it rarely.
 
bben said:
how many people take it correctly though? very very few. And if you abuse it, it can destroy you it takes YEARS to recover unlike most other drugs excluding its cousin methamphetamine. Im just saying i didnt use it correctly and took huge doses just a FEW times and it fucked my memory royally and permanently.
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but you remember taking it though.
 
Ill agree with lazy on this one. Over my time of doing this wonderful drug I have noticed certain things through out my daily life that have been effected by its use. Now I'm not saying that it has ruined my life (not even close) but there are somethings that I wish would not have happened over this course.
Best thing to do is to plan when it comes down to "roll" time. Make sure you have supplies i.e Juice, Water, a friend in close contact, and most of all a good mindset.
 
blauwelichten said:
In the UK we have a professor nutt who's a professional antagonist and a world specialist in substance misuse and the harmful effects, all of his work points to ecstasy being safer than riding a horse and less harmful than alcohol, heroin or crack

however it seems the real danger, and one that isnt talked of enough imo is poly-drug use http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/hup.528/abstract, as the statistics here show
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well the problem with poly-drug use is unless you get a pure pill or pure mdma you dont know what its cut with so you could be taking mdma meth and ketamine for all you know
 
pnut3844 said:
well the problem with poly-drug use is unless you get a pure pill or pure mdma you dont know what its cut with so you could be taking mdma meth and ketamine for all you know
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Yes youre right, but polydrug use as far as i can tell is knowingly taking and mixing different kinds of substances. Something people on here do a lot.
 
blauwelichten said:
Yes youre right, but polydrug use as far as i can tell is knowingly taking and mixing different kinds of substances. Something people on here do a lot.
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eh i have only done that a few times, couple of time with coke, and then one time i smoked ice while on mdma. let me tell you, that might be a dumb thing to do, but it was the biggest blow up i have ever had lol
 
pnut3844 said:
eh i have only done that a few times, couple of time with coke, and then one time i smoked ice while on mdma. let me tell you, that might be a dumb thing to do, but it was the biggest blow up i have ever had lol
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its how most people do drugs if you include alcohol in the definition of polydrug use.
 
blauwelichten said:
its how most people do drugs if you include alcohol in the definition of polydrug use.
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nah i never drink and do drugs it makes me sick and tired. except maybe weed. but deff dont drink on mdma. makes me sick lol and its not good to do
 
Stone84 said:
How much of a strain does ecstasy put on the heart?
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I dont know, theres loads of research out there, maybe you can find some and tell us, my best guess would be not enough to kill the vast majority of people who take it.

If you want to freak yourself out though go and find Meyler's Side Effects of Drugs.pdf, that should get you fretting for a while, there have been loads of weird side effects reported.
 
It's unfortunate that so many pills are cut with speed and other substances. It makes it difficult to accept the results of any study looking at ecstasy users, unless the researchers administered pure MDMA themselves. So what the results are really showing us are the effects of people consuming untested pills that most likely have other substances is in them too, in addition to whatever other drugs the person regularly consumes, rather than showing us the effects of pure MDMA.

I have not done a review of all the literature myself, but I would imagine that most of the studies where pure MDMA is administered is done on rats, not humans. Still can give us good information but studies done on rats are not necessarily 100% equivalent to studies done on humans.
 
1. MDMA definitely has some neurotoxic effects, but is generally considered less harmful than MDA or meth in that respect. The physiological changes are obvious, but what effect they have on emotional/cognitive functioning isn't as clear.

2. Overdose is unlikely unless large amounts are taken in a short span of time. Allergic reactions could theoretically occur, so test a small amount of the stuff beforehand to test its effects. Mixing it with other stimulants like caffeine or amphetamines increases the risk for side effects but not overdose specifically.

3. The most dangerous aspect is adulteration, hands down. Second would be the effects of heavy/habitual use, which aren't completely known just yet. Single dose, occasional use (2-4 times per year) is not likely to cause permanent damage or acute health emergencies in healthy people.
 
MDMA is not very dangerous, its tha other substances that they cut with rolls sometimes that are bad for you!...
 
The Network said:
So you're all telling me to use it the right way, you know what would be helpful with that? Telling me what 'the right way' is.
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Not to sound like a dick, but are you retarded dude? You're on an ecstasy harm reduction forum.... READ. There's millions of posts concerning the 'right way' to use ecstasy.
 
The Network said:
I haven't really read up on it much because for whatever reason I've always assumed it's pretty dangerous, not just ecstasy itself-though I always just thought it's pretty dangerous on its own- but especially not knowing what they cut it with. Some people put other things you might want in it like zolpidem, but who knows maybe someone finds dog shit with salmonella, tape worm, round worm, flatworm, and e. coli and puts that in their batch, right?

I was just wondering; how easy is it to OD for a person of average health, is it neurotoxic at all itself, and what are the most dangerous aspects of it(don't lie, everything has SOME danger to it).

Sorry if this was already covered somewhere but I couldn't find it.
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Ecstasy isn't harmless. No drug is, not even weed. Things cut with or substituting ecstasy are generally more dangerous. Nerotoxicity has been detected in rats that have received more than 700 mg. It is by body weight so we're talking a massive dose for proven nerotoxicity. I can tell you from personal experience that when I take anti oxidants like vitamin C before and after I feel much better and recover faster. So I believe it may be mildly nerotoxic.

Like weed, most of its negative effects are temporary, but are compounded with heavy use. Overdosing is very difficult though. Chasing the high can also lead to large doses, while almost never leading to an overdose, it can lead to very fast tolerance build up and a very nasty hangover.

I also find that the initial after effects of ecstasy are therapeutic, but for a while after I tend to be more easily angered and frustrated.

Ecstasy can be an amazing drug, but it should be used in moderation.
 
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