How do you know when you've taken real MDMA?

[wiiwee]

Ok so apparantly MDMA affects are highly universal, so this will be somewhat helpful. With acid and shrooms basically, you know it's working because it's obvious Usually the problem is it works too well and it's too intense at times. But the 4x tried MDMA, it was nice and fun and kind of trippy, but never felt "f'ed up", less f'ed up than smoking a J to be honest. Is it really obvious when you take real MDMA, much like it's obvious when you are on shrooms or on lsd? Like on a scale of how f'ed up a drug makes you, i'd make pot a 3, liquor a 5, shrooms/lsd are a 7/8, and i'd rate my 4x with "mdma" around a 1.5.-2. Should I be thinking it's a 10 is what I'm wondering lol?

I got a test kit but i'm almost ready to say "f it" to MDMA because it's always DXM or amphetamines, and i have been lucky enough to try other awesome things (verified LSD, shroomies), and this just seems like such a damn hassle to be dissapointed each time the test kit comes out. Dunno really

If anyone is curious, so far tried a few different Molly capsules (clear caps w/ crystaly powder), and a blue butterfly roll, and light red scorpion roll, in FL region. I think one of those times w/ molly may have been real because it was at a festie and my old fart friend who's been around had his kit and it was his first positive ID in the 3 months he had owned the kit. But I just group that time with all the others, most have them may or may not have been MDMA, but the two rolls are DEF NOT because I got a testing kit when I had them, but didn't with the molly.

Also I retested and retested and really learned how to see the colors better. Both of these rolls showed bright green on the Marquis immediately no fizzing. On the Mecke, dark green, which later changed to red/brown a full 30 minutes later Dunno wtf these rolls are but I'm guessing some kind of research chemical? Not all that upset anymore though seems like these can be fun for a rave too?

Edit - since they got a clear/no color change on the Simons, seems like it's MDPV, uh oh! Probably shouldn't take them if that's the case

 

[Scald]

Don't pull that SWIM shit around these parts, it's a pain in the ass to read and in no way protects you from legal issues (which won't happen anyway from posting on a forum ya paranoid fuck!). Though at least you didn't say something about a monkey, that was just dumb.

MOVING ON. MDMA is an interesting drug, and the effects do vary from a low-mid-high dose. Low dose you'll feel very sociable, want to talk to EVERYONE and have a pretty good time in general. You're not "fucked up" but your thought processes are definately altered.

Medium dose you'll feel a lot of euphoria and love everyone and want to dance (this moreso if it has a stim in it as well) and be incredibly happy and everything in general will be awesome. I can guarantee you'll know when you hit this

High dose MDMA I can't say I recommend, because while it is EXTREMELY euphoric, if that is your aim there are better drugs to do it with. While the toxicity is debated going for a high dose will definately hit you like a sledgehammer the next day. High doses is also the only time I have ever felt any addictive pull from MDMA, I had cravings a few days afterwards, but these did subside the next time I did a low dose and decided not to go that high again.

Low level you might not know it as it is similar to a lot of other amphetamines at that level, but if you hit the sweet spot you'll definitely know it.

 

[ParalyticSHOCK]

Depends on the dose, and what your idea of "fucked up" is, really.

I can still think pretty clearly on MDMA. When I'm "fucked up" on MDMA, I feel warm and fuzzy. I love everyone and everything. My eyes wiggle like a mofo. I can't stop smiling.

It definitely alters my personality a bit. And I feel unsafe driving on MDMA (I do not recommend anybody does this, whether you enjoy it or feel like you're the best driver ever. It's dangerous.)

Generally, yeah it does kind of fuck me up.

I'd give it an 8/10 on the scale in proper doses.

 

[wiiwee]

Don't pull that SWIM shit around these parts, it's a pain in the ass to read and in no way protects you from legal issues (which won't happen anyway from posting on a forum ya paranoid fuck!). Though at least you didn't say something about a monkey, that was just dumb.

MOVING ON. MDMA is an interesting drug, and the effects do vary from a low-mid-high dose. Low dose you'll feel very sociable, want to talk to EVERYONE and have a pretty good time in general. You're not "fucked up" but your thought processes are definately altered.

Medium dose you'll feel a lot of euphoria and love everyone and want to dance (this moreso if it has a stim in it as well) and be incredibly happy and everything in general will be awesome. I can guarantee you'll know when you hit this

High dose MDMA I can't say I recommend, because while it is EXTREMELY euphoric, if that is your aim there are better drugs to do it with. While the toxicity is debated going for a high dose will definately hit you like a sledgehammer the next day. High doses is also the only time I have ever felt any addictive pull from MDMA, I had cravings a few days afterwards, but these did subside the next time I did a low dose and decided not to go that high again.

Low level you might not know it as it is similar to a lot of other amphetamines at that level, but if you hit the sweet spot you'll definitely know it.

Would you compare the euphoria from MDMA to the euphoria experiences on mushrooms? Im not sure if it's because of the ADHD where substances might affect me differently than average folk, but I took a really low level of mushrooms and it was amazing, never felt so happy and I felt like everything was going to work out and just an all around feeling of content. Didn't feel anything close to that on MDMA, just felt kind of cracked out and saw cool glowing affects from strobes but that's it. Is it a weaker drug than mushrooms/other psychadelics in how much it affects you though? From how people talk about it, sounds like it's God in a pill, and I just wasn't all that impressed, and one of the times my friend got a positive test so I really don't know.

But people rave on how life changing LSD/Mushrooms are, and I have experienced that and it's not an exaggeration, and I know how pot is and it's just like everyone says, but with MDMA, I just never really "got it" or could figure out why people like it, but I may have never even taken real MDMA before so who knows.

 

[wiiwee]

Depends on the dose, and what your idea of "fucked up" is, really.

I can still think pretty clearly on MDMA. When I'm "fucked up" on MDMA, I feel warm and fuzzy. I love everyone and everything. My eyes wiggle like a mofo. I can't stop smiling.

It definitely alters my personality a bit. And I feel unsafe driving on MDMA (I do not recommend anybody does this, whether you enjoy it or feel like you're the best driver ever. It's dangerous.)

Generally, yeah it does kind of fuck me up.

I'd give it an 8/10 on the scale in proper doses.

Can you feel your eyes wiggling, or do you just mean your friends tell you that you have the eye wigglies? If you can actually feel them wiggling that sounds like a telltale way to know

 

[skip2my]

Can you feel your eyes wiggling, or do you just mean your friends tell you that you have the eye wigglies? If you can actually feel them wiggling that sounds like a telltale way to know

in a way you can ''feel it'' but the easier way to tell is just to look at any light or maybe your cell phone, and try to focus on it (reading a text or something of that nature), and you'll notice your eyes wiggling, damn i love that feeling

 

[Scald]

Would you compare the euphoria from MDMA to the euphoria experiences on mushrooms? Im not sure if it's because of the ADHD where substances might affect me differently than average folk, but I took a really low level of mushrooms and it was amazing, never felt so happy and I felt like everything was going to work out and just an all around feeling of content. Didn't feel anything close to that on MDMA, just felt kind of cracked out and saw cool glowing affects from strobes but that's it. Is it a weaker drug than mushrooms/other psychadelics in how much it affects you though? From how people talk about it, sounds like it's God in a pill, and I just wasn't all that impressed, and one of the times my friend got a positive test so I really don't know.

But people rave on how life changing LSD/Mushrooms are, and I have experienced that and it's not an exaggeration, and I know how pot is and it's just like everyone says, but with MDMA, I just never really "got it" or could figure out why people like it, but I may have never even taken real MDMA before so who knows.

Well unless you're taking SSRI's or something that was definately not MDMA you took. I can't relate to mushrooms as I'm still scared shitless of hallucinogens but that does sound very similar, I don't think it'd be too much of a stretch to say it's like that. But if you took MDMA and didn't love everyone and everything then that wasn't MDMA.

side note: Are bunk pills seriously this common? Every time I have ever bought pills they have been good, at worst a little weak or a little speedy. Half the posts on here are from people who took something fake, it's kind of a sad thought that there are that many scumbags in the world.

 

[wiiwee]

Well unless you're taking SSRI's or something that was definately not MDMA you took. I can't relate to mushrooms as I'm still scared shitless of hallucinogens but that does sound very similar, I don't think it'd be too much of a stretch to say it's like that. But if you took MDMA and didn't love everyone and everything then that wasn't MDMA.

side note: Are bunk pills seriously this common? Every time I have ever bought pills they have been good, at worst a little weak or a little speedy. Half the posts on here are from people who took something fake, it's kind of a sad thought that there are that many scumbags in the world.

It's just so weird, I read trip reports from people on MDMA and I think, "Hey that's EXACTLY how i felt coming up on shrooms/acid before the tripping balls visuals starts, but that's definitely not how I felt on the "mdma"".

As far as how common, I live in a hotspot city so I'm sure the ratio to fake to real is much worse in a city like here where demand is constantly sky high, then some normal lower key area. Also it seems the problem is with the "clubber/raver" crowd (which I am a part of so no hate please!!! Real Jersey shore type guy here!!). The hippies and stoners are the ones w/ the good stuff, the real stuff. They have the crystal shards and molly powder. Basically the weirdo space cadet type people that don't seem like they go out of their house are the people with the real stuff. But unfortunately, like me I am assuming, many here get them from their clubbing/raving buddies and their raving buddies, and they all usually get stuck with the bunk stuff. No generalizations though haha, this is mostly a half serious post anyway, but it is absurd how difficult it is to get a substance when you are ready to pay top dollar for it lol.

The quest of MDMA seems not worth it sometimes unless you have a real trusted hookup, since acid/shrooms are not really all that much different and also go perfectly with raves/festies, and it's a lot easier to tell if something is acid or not than mystery pills, real acid is OMG OMG you know it when you have it, no speculation, and shrooms are a given.

 

[Scald]

It's just so weird, I read trip reports from people on MDMA and I think, "Hey that's EXACTLY how i felt coming up on shrooms/acid before the tripping balls visuals starts, but that's definitely not how I felt on the "mdma"".

As far as how common, I live in a hotspot city so I'm sure the ratio to fake to real is much worse in a city like here where demand is constantly sky high, then some normal lower key area.

I live in Edmonton, so while it IS Canada it's still one of the biggest cities in the country and has ~750k people living here so we're not small by any means. There are certainly meth bombs that go around but as long as you're going through (even friend of a friend) someone you trust they're generally not going to be misrepresented. Though I guess that's different everywhere you go, maybe we just have a kind black market?

 

[wiiwee]

I live in Edmonton, so while it IS Canada it's still one of the biggest cities in the country and has ~750k people living here so we're not small by any means. There are certainly meth bombs that go around but as long as you're going through (even friend of a friend) someone you trust they're generally not going to be misrepresented. Though I guess that's different everywhere you go, maybe we just have a kind black market?

I have heard that the U.S is especially bad compared with other countries when it comes to adulterated MDMA pills, but not sure how true that still is. I'm not talking about just a big city, i'm talking about a hotspot club city, a hotspot where people come all around the world to come to our clubs and large music festivals. It's fun having like three world famous DJ's here a week, but at the downside the MDMA market here is disgusting, people have went their whole lives in this city without ever knowing they've never taken MDMA I bet. People I know who actually know what they are doing have went through like 10 different pills before getting a positive, it's very crazy.

In cities like that then it's so bad, at times it feels almost impossible and you just wanna give up and say forget it. It's literally everywhere, but everyone has bunk b.s. And everyone just buys up the fake beans all the time and assume whatever f'ed them up was MDMA, so no one has any reason to change anything

 

[georgewc2001]

OP...sounds like you either haven't gotten mdma or taken enough if you did because there is absolutely no mistake about it when it hits you. I'd guess you've been getting shit pills or powder cause it's plentiful.

I've done just about every drug under the sun and, while lsd, shrooms, mesc, etc. hit me in a way that i'm definitely "fucked up," nothing has ever hit me as hard as that first hit of mdma. I was so happy I almost started crying, so I really doubt you're getting good shit, which isn't your fault cause it gets soaked up quickly when it's around.

Signs you've got mdma:

1. eye wiggles/stutter vision
2. EXTREME euphoria
3. openess in conversation...shit's coming out of your mouth that would NEVER otherwise
4. skin sensitivity...messages feel fuckin amazing
5. empathy

Keep trying cause when you get it, it will be more than worth the effort.

 

[ParalyticSHOCK]

Can you feel your eyes wiggling, or do you just mean your friends tell you that you have the eye wigglies? If you can actually feel them wiggling that sounds like a telltale way to know

You can feel them shaking, but you don't need to feel them to notice it. You definitely visually see it, which is awesome when there are lights around because they trail a little bit as your eyes wiggle. Just try to make your eyes shake real fast in short bursts. In kind of a vibrating way, not just left to right. It's difficult to explain, but once you get legit MDMA you'll totally understand what I mean.

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ywfvbs&s=7

This is essentially what a good night on MDMA looks like to me, visually.

 

[Scald]

4. skin sensitivity...messages feel fuckin amazing

Oh my god I completely forgot about this, it's one of the best things ever. It is literally one of the most euphoric things I have ever experienced. It's the combination of how good human contact feels in general, how sensitive your skin is and just your general feeling of love, combines for an amazing experience.

 

[georgewc2001]

^Oh yea...when i've taken some of the better rolls in my mdma career, i swear to god when someone touches my skin/messages me, it feels like my dick does during sex...lol

 

[wiiwee]

You can feel them shaking, but you don't need to feel them to notice it. You definitely visually see it, which is awesome when there are lights around because they trail a little bit as your eyes wiggle. Just try to make your eyes shake real fast in short bursts. In kind of a vibrating way, not just left to right. It's difficult to explain, but once you get legit MDMA you'll totally understand what I mean.

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2ywfvbs&s=7

This is essentially what a good night on MDMA looks like to me, visually.

I was getting some similiar visual from the blue butterfly ones but those were verified NON MDMA by me, came up yellow in Mecke, Marquis and Simon's, don't know what the heck was in it but it was actually pretty cool and trippy, and I thought it was real when I took it, didn't get the test kit till a few days after. Definately no empathy or any of that though, more of a trippy thing and the music sounded better and hit harder.

 

[iCafe]

IM not an expert or anything, but the difference between the E pills and the molly I get is the sketch. With those pills i would stay up for 1-3 days after being high and not eat , think, or even speek (sometimes) with the molly its just as intense high with out the sketch, I could go to sleep after a night of mdma, wake up eat breakfast and go to school...thats my experience though

 

[MasterSplinter]

Warm blissful butterflies in my body, sparkles in my eyes, heaven in my breathin.

Thats when I know its a good bean. Everything feels clear.

 

[Scald]

^Oh yea...when i've taken some of the better rolls in my mdma career, i swear to god when someone touches my skin/messages me, it feels like my dick does during sex...lol

...that would actually be a very accurate description, taking it a step further and making out while on E... if there is a heaven on earth that would be it, the fact that your dick might not work doesn't even remotely enter into the equation... I just got butterflies thinking about it

 

[wiiwee]

Any of you guys ever have Methylone or MDPV? I think these rolls are both MDPV, would that make me experience what I described? Like I said I did take these law week at a rave and I had a blast, and didn't really have a hangover or bad comedown. Does that maybe rule out MDPV?

 

[Devotchkin]

When I've had a really high dose of mdma, I'd definitely give it at least a 9 on that scale - maybe a 10. It was so euphoric I was unaware of its effects seperately, though they were all super strong - the dancing, the skin contact, the 'loved-up' feeling. Everything was perfect with the universe. Physically, as I was coming up and peaking, I felt waves of it running through my body that were similar to orgasm (I'm female). When I plateau'd I tripped too - we were at a festy and when I returned to my tent with my best friend, I was talking to other people in there (people who I do know in real life) who she couldn't see. I could see and feel their presence perfectly.
I can't really speak for pills, I prefer to wait to find the crystals, but the few times I have had pills have never been more than a 5 or 6. I reckon medium doses of mdma get me to a 6.5 - 7.5.

In terms of making out - the last time I rolled with my partner, we tried to kiss at our peak and were unable to. We got maybe 4 inches apart and physically felt energy pushing us backwards. We both describe it looking the same way - this clear, elastic, almost fluid field between our faces! We stepped back and looked at each other and laughed, 'WHOOOOAAAAAA, DID YOU SEE THAT TOO?'. Though ten minutes later we were able to have the wonderful mdma kisses, where nothing in the universe exists besides our mouths

Be patient, it's so very, very worth it 100% my favourite drug.