Scoobysnacks
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/me waves upto his fav ladie k.kat 
The Big & Dandy Methoxetamine(2-(3-methoxyphenyl)-2-(ethylamino)cyclohexanone) Thread
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Banjo Fury
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To be fair you do provide some entertainment.....I would agree methoxetamine is not for everybody. But this thread is for everybody`s experiences. Thanks for sharing yours. It seems to have been hijacked lately by the K hole, m hole, plateau obsessions.
Also i am happy you finally had a good experience on with 6-apb, personally at the moment i think there are many far better compounds out there, which are far better value and the effects are more reliable. The synths of 6-apb seem to be getting weaker whilst the price is increasing. Some of the synths of aMT currently in the UK seem to be improving. 30mg initial doses instead of 50 mg seems the way to go by my experience. These synths are to be found in unusual places.
I have never been away from b/l i just dont feel the need, like you, to talk constant shit. Also you seem to be following HH quite closely, yeh i have upset a couple of vendors and shills
p). Also at least i do not hide behind several different aliases on different forums, would you like to share. 
Anyway peace, can everyone get back to discussing methoxetamine. Thank you.
Jamshyd
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I excuse you for being new, I just assume that most people on BL have gotten used to my flowery posts when slightly high by now and realize that I mean no harm in them.Perhaps you're being ironic
ORLY?
Have you never looked at Erowid? What about pubmed? Have you ever looked at shulgin's books, perhaps? What about a dictionary?
"Plateau" has a very concrete english meaning and has little to do with subjective experience. "k-hole" is not.
But I am sure you feel much better now that you managed to pin my down as an egoist. You probably made a few other cream their pants too because you've been itching to call me that the moment you saw me. I'm glad I was able to help you.
Personally i think this blows everything out of the water, and i mean Everything at the moment! Roll on November...........Just reading the last few pages it seems there are no trip reports and all this talk about K holes, m- holes, pateau`s seriously some of you need to get a grip.
Mods with respect clean this thread, damn it is a Mod.
I'm sure I'd say the same if I were advertising it on my vendor site.
Too bad I don't mod PD anymore, otherwise I would have moved this discussion to the k-hole thread.
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Thou
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A hole is essentially nothing or a "lack thereof". The term implies meaninglessness, imo. So negative.
What about the K-hill? An entire mountain of something!
Or better yet, the the K-Haberdashery, where one would take his ketamine to purchase a nice pear of slacks and an evening jacket.
What about the K-hill? An entire mountain of something!
Or better yet, the the K-Haberdashery, where one would take his ketamine to purchase a nice pear of slacks and an evening jacket.
knock
Bluelighter
Yes, I have been reading your posts and thinking "he's giving people a hard time for using a fairly innocuous phrase, he could do with some deflation". You gave me the opportunity. I took it! I wasn't interested in the reaction of an audience though, you got that wrong. Anyway, I meant no harm, my intention was playful. Thanks for excusing me.
On "plateau", point taken, it is a commonly used word in the context of drugs that exhibit plateaux.
Yes, it says nothing qualitative about the experience, other than that it is one of a plurality in the range. We agree on this, just not on the other thing I won't mention...
anyone?
Blowmonkey
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To reduce nause, try ginger, peppermint or cannabis. Works like a charm.
Scoobysnacks
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dont know about k-hole, but banjo fury is defo a big a-hole..hahaha
pofacedhoe
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this amuses me
Banjo Fury
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me too
Turing Machine
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I think people should be free to use whatever terms they feel are appropriate without fear of someone saying they're doing it wrong. It reminds me a lot of the word "stoned". Exactly how high does one have to be before they're stoned is beyond me. Shulgin uses similar phrases that are less than scientifically precise all the time, "cone of silence", "stoning effect" etc.
I have absolutely zero opinion on the use of the term "k hole" but I always interpreted the phrase K-hole to mean the near complete dissociation from reality and sensory input which oddly almost always lasts approximately an hour and is caused by taking surgical anesthetic level doses. This would be in opposition to doses taken in a social context, non-immobilizing doses that don't cause much if any dissociation. The first and only time I did ketamine a friend offered me a line that was much larger than any line I'd insufflated of anything before, within a few minutes I was in a complete alternate reality for an hour then as soon as I was able to walk I ran to the toilet to throw up. The rest of the day I felt as if I'd been in surgery earlier that day. My friend told me that was a k-hole and I took his word for it.
I have absolutely zero opinion on the use of the term "k hole" but I always interpreted the phrase K-hole to mean the near complete dissociation from reality and sensory input which oddly almost always lasts approximately an hour and is caused by taking surgical anesthetic level doses. This would be in opposition to doses taken in a social context, non-immobilizing doses that don't cause much if any dissociation. The first and only time I did ketamine a friend offered me a line that was much larger than any line I'd insufflated of anything before, within a few minutes I was in a complete alternate reality for an hour then as soon as I was able to walk I ran to the toilet to throw up. The rest of the day I felt as if I'd been in surgery earlier that day. My friend told me that was a k-hole and I took his word for it.
knock
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This thread needs more life. I took 30mgs up my nose on Friday night and barely felt it, then last night took about 45mg orally, gargled and swished, after getting back from the pub and had one of the most visually psychedelic experiences I've had in a while.
In some ways it was unpleasant. I do not think Methoxetamine goes at all well with alcohol, the two times I've tried this it's taken on a dark edge. The flavour of the visuals was a bit uncomfortable: a subterranean cavern or biological interior made of alien/reptilian flesh, toothy mouths emerging from the tissue forming the "ceiling". A fleshy structure like a tree-trunk with an eye embedded half way up. These visions were persistent and left me with the feeling I had been taking a peek outside the Matrix. But with an effort of will and some appropriate music it was possible to steer the visual development down less freakish routes and instead summon intricate 3D landscapes and such like. But still it felt like I wasn't in full thematic control.
Despite the disturbing element, it was overall very enjoyable. It was fun to get into that visual head space and notice how similar it is to acid or mushrooms. There was a definite voluntary shift in my consciousness which made me think that actually, this fully visual imagining is possible without drugs and indeed not guaranteed with them. At other points I was listening to dance music and felt strong euphoria - lovely! I also spent a while playing with verbal descriptions of the relationships between fictional characters. My imagination gets amplified big style.
So stimulating as well, I was quite tired when I took it at about 1am but ended up awake till after 7.
In some ways it was unpleasant. I do not think Methoxetamine goes at all well with alcohol, the two times I've tried this it's taken on a dark edge. The flavour of the visuals was a bit uncomfortable: a subterranean cavern or biological interior made of alien/reptilian flesh, toothy mouths emerging from the tissue forming the "ceiling". A fleshy structure like a tree-trunk with an eye embedded half way up. These visions were persistent and left me with the feeling I had been taking a peek outside the Matrix. But with an effort of will and some appropriate music it was possible to steer the visual development down less freakish routes and instead summon intricate 3D landscapes and such like. But still it felt like I wasn't in full thematic control.
Despite the disturbing element, it was overall very enjoyable. It was fun to get into that visual head space and notice how similar it is to acid or mushrooms. There was a definite voluntary shift in my consciousness which made me think that actually, this fully visual imagining is possible without drugs and indeed not guaranteed with them. At other points I was listening to dance music and felt strong euphoria - lovely! I also spent a while playing with verbal descriptions of the relationships between fictional characters. My imagination gets amplified big style.
So stimulating as well, I was quite tired when I took it at about 1am but ended up awake till after 7.
He / she still has a point though!
There's too much bickering over the semantics of an individual, subjective experience - in a thread where it doesn't belong. Jamshyd obviously has an issue with the term K-Hole, the colloquial phrase used by most Ketamine users to describe his plateau. It almost seems like psychedelic snobbery!
Xamkou
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seems like the product will be much more affordable when it returns
Xorkoth
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Let's just keep the discussion to methoxetamine, rather than semantics, or especially about K which isn't the same drug.
But honestly, let's just quit the semantics arguments. They're tired. People are going to use the terms they want. Now if a new term entirely is being dreamed up, then it's just confusing slang. But the term k-hole is well-used throughout the Internet and has been for a long time, including by some of the original quality reports that people read over the years. If you don't like the term, then don't use it. But damn, slang is a part of language. I have a problem when people use slang to name drugs because then no one knows what they're talking about (like if someone came on asking questions about "kitty", I would insist on clarification and correct naming).
I totally understand your points, Jamshyd, and ultimately I agree, but people can use the term k-hole if that's how they think of it. It's an established term and people understand at least something about what is being said with it. The thought police don't live in this forum.
But honestly, let's just quit the semantics arguments. They're tired. People are going to use the terms they want. Now if a new term entirely is being dreamed up, then it's just confusing slang. But the term k-hole is well-used throughout the Internet and has been for a long time, including by some of the original quality reports that people read over the years. If you don't like the term, then don't use it. But damn, slang is a part of language. I have a problem when people use slang to name drugs because then no one knows what they're talking about (like if someone came on asking questions about "kitty", I would insist on clarification and correct naming).
I totally understand your points, Jamshyd, and ultimately I agree, but people can use the term k-hole if that's how they think of it. It's an established term and people understand at least something about what is being said with it. The thought police don't live in this forum.
incognition
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I think the term 'hole' is alright since i think of such holes as wormholes/warpholes rather than voidholes. 8)
EDIT:Sorry, i missed that last mod post.
EDIT:Sorry, i missed that last mod post.
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nomy
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Right, back on track finally. OK, so it's now 'late' November then before more of us can sample this interesting little chemical.
I must admit that my cynical side always comes out after a small amount of samples achieve almost 100% positive reports, but is then followed by a long wait which builds up interest until the next batch comes along. I know this is pretty much normal, but I hope it matches the initial quality that reports suggest.
I must admit that my cynical side always comes out after a small amount of samples achieve almost 100% positive reports, but is then followed by a long wait which builds up interest until the next batch comes along. I know this is pretty much normal, but I hope it matches the initial quality that reports suggest.
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