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I.M. DPT and I.M. Ketamine combo = syringes of death

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Has anyone else done this absolutely insane combination? 8o

I thought I died, I thought I was God, I thought I was in purgatory, I thought I was everything and nothing. Absolutely a +++++! I can't believe what I went through.

I hallucinated that I had hit an artery and blood was on my thighs. My body felt as if I was dying at first. It was like having a heart attack or a serious physical crisis. You 100% believe that you are going to die a long, agonizing death. At one point, I thought that my entire existence was part of a song, like I was an apostrophe on a word.

Time stretched on for eternities. I don't even know how the hell I'm here after that.

To explain the rest would be pointless. It was the closest to death I have ever been. Not a game.

Has anyone ever done this? Is there a combo out there even more insane than this? Without needles? Can DMT be even more brilliant than this? I have a hard time believing that (but I'll be sure to see for myself, soon). There were visions, but it wasn't a visual thing, it was extremely mental.

Fucking unreal. So fucking unreal.
 
Around 75mg > Amount of DPT < 100mg, and 100mg of K. The reason I don't know the exact amount of DPT is because the night before, I attempted to snort what I thought was 25mg from a 100mg capsule. The K came from a vial, of course.

That trip was existential rape. But I hate needles. Too much hassle to deal with. :p

Really, having a sitter would be great for this. Doing it alone made me sad.

I'm going for smokeables next time. So much better.
 
i can't imagine how intense your trip must have been, but i think you'd like psilohuasca (syrian rue + shrooms). 3g rue seeds plug 5g fungus put me down for the count and i died several times :P
 
Sounds like you experienced some very intense ego-loss and handled it well. I'm pondering taking this combo soon, but I want to experience mushrooms + smoked rue first. I want to familiarize myself with both natural and synthetic ways to achieve extreme ego loss. I agree in that needles are a hassle most of the time and there's the stigma if they're found, which is why I'm interested in plant drugs to achieve the same ends.
 
The dissociative/tryptamine combo is a mensch. It seems like they do their best for you when you IM them in the same barrel (it let's them get to know each other before you send them tear-assing around your veins).

I've still got to do ketamine and DET, but I can vouch for DPT, DMT 4-ho-DMT, and 4-AcO-DMT as all being stellar playmates for dissociatives. I think MET or 4-ho-MET would also likely play nice.
 
Sounds like a hyper hole caving in! I've yet to try DPT its on my to do list. Hopefully my Christmas present will come early!
 
Mmmm this is one of those holy combinations, the chocolate and peanut butter of psych/disassociative combos :D Miles better than DMT and K .....they just seem to compliment each other oh so well! And cheers to psood0nym on the same barrel........I always let em mingle for a few minutes, kinda superstitious that way.;D

Haven't done many subbed tryptamines with disassociatives.......and DET and K was almost a disappointment, I prefer DET by itself, kinda got smeared out by K into a strange twilight sleep..

cheers
 
LSD+ Nitrous: legitimately believed i was one of 3 single bladed fans whos rotation and being comprised the entire universe. I giggled at the simplicity of my "life". Then i realized i was lying on my couch looking up at my fan lol

LSD+ MDMA + Caffiene + Nitrous: Ate a monkey half way through above trip and continued with the nitrous. At one point, believed i was one of two single cell supercomputers who comprised the universe (i always seem to believe whatever i am, see, hear, feel ((all senses are the same at this point)) comprise the entire universe.) I controlled one of the supercomputers, and my friend controlled the other. In a split second we agreed on a virtual game, designed targeting/trigger laser devices capable of destroying the other and taking over the universe, and had our fingers on the triggers. It was gangster
 
amanitadine said:
Haven't done many subbed tryptamines with disassociatives.......and DET and K was almost a disappointment, I prefer DET by itself, kinda got smeared out by K into a strange twilight sleep..
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Interesting. I've only done DET once and that was a small dose during the plateau of aMT, both IM. I wanted to see if they'd combine anywhere near as well as aMT and DPT. It didn't seem like they did. I'm saving what's left of my sample for around two, maybe three more tries, and so I think based on what you said I'll cross combining it with K off the possibilities list. I will definitely be combining DMT, DET, and DPT all in the same barrel and IMing in what I hope will result in a great homologic trialogue. But I still haven't figured out ratios yet for a proper balance. Have you used DET IM, and if so, what would you say a plus 2-2.5 dose of it would be? I'm trying to get a big enough dose of each that all of their qualities are represented without dosing so high I'm totally incapacitated (well, 20 minutes of incapacitation wouldn't be so bad). I've been waiting on that combo since I first read TIHKAL in 2000.

I'd think another promising tryptamine partner for ketamine might be MET, and maybe 4-ho-MET, though I've tried neither.
 
in rereading my words I might now opt for a less severe rating than disappointment....it is well worth it, but DET has some great qualities that are overshown in combination. It has a strange subtlety.....I think I was so blown away by DPT and K and loved DET by itself so logic would figure that DET and K would have been the bees knees. worth a gambit but if you have little I would suggest a good sample by its lonesome....it has not the tribal orgy explosion of DMT or the egyptian video game motifs of DPT.......i guess for lack of a better description I will say it is the MMDA of unsubbed alkyltryptamines.

I love tryptamines via I.M. injection, and DET is no exception. I would say for me 70mg is a low +++, or even a high ++....it is so hard for me to quanitify tryptamines, especially via injection or smoking, with the shulgin scale as so much of their effects seem to be +++ and up. But for comparison, maybe 60mg DMT I.M is equal to 70mg DET?

I like the "homologic" trialogue idear :D would be interesting, I wonder if the inclusion of DET would bridge the gap between the DMT and DPT....(be it power of suggestion or not, it is amazing what a different world exists in the spaces between a couple of carbons.)

Never tried the MET . .or many of the wackier alkyl chain combos. Most of my experimentation was done with the easier to acquire "items of commerce".....I'm verging on geezer, and we always had a fairly limited tryptamine pallette to draw from.

cheers
 
I can't speak from experience besides them separately, IM. DPT IM was the first thing I ever injected non-medically. I had about 50mg... and it was intense, but felt really "clean", not much body problems and my mind was very sexual! Spent a long time looking at porn but could barely see past the visuals.

With K, I was a long-time traveller. 130mg IM when the old 100mg wouldn't do anymore. But, when on a psychedelic (like 2C-E especially!!!!!!) it only took half that amount to colorfully K-hole. I never tried K with LSD, but did with its close cousin miprocin, and that was amazing as well. Oddly though, I like miprocin much better than 2c-e, but 2c-e + K was much better than either, solo or combo.

I'm sure you had quite a ride! congrats man.
 
amanitadine said:
in rereading my words I might now opt for a less severe rating than disappointment....it is well worth it, but DET has some great qualities that are overshown in combination. It has a strange subtlety.....I think I was so blown away by DPT and K and loved DET by itself so logic would figure that DET and K would have been the bees knees. worth a gambit but if you have little I would suggest a good sample by its lonesome....it has not the tribal orgy explosion of DMT or the egyptian video game motifs of DPT.......i guess for lack of a better description I will say it is the MMDA of unsubbed alkyltryptamines.

I love tryptamines via I.M. injection, and DET is no exception. I would say for me 70mg is a low +++, or even a high ++....it is so hard for me to quanitify tryptamines, especially via injection or smoking, with the shulgin scale as so much of their effects seem to be +++ and up. But for comparison, maybe 60mg DMT I.M is equal to 70mg DET?

I like the "homologic" trialogue idear :D would be interesting, I wonder if the inclusion of DET would bridge the gap between the DMT and DPT....(be it power of suggestion or not, it is amazing what a different world exists in the spaces between a couple of carbons.)

Never tried the MET . .or many of the wackier alkyl chain combos. Most of my experimentation was done with the easier to acquire "items of commerce".....I'm verging on geezer, and we always had a fairly limited tryptamine pallette to draw from.

cheers
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Thanks, that's helpful. The idea of including DET is as you guessed, to hopefully bridge the gap between DMT and DPT and create something profoundly expansive. I've heard MET compared to DMT and DPT, contingent on the dose, so hopefully the structurally similar DET will fill in the experiential gaps. DMT and DPT are really different, so I'm not realistically hoping for a complete fusion of effects, more like a rickety rope bridge between them and a one way zip line or something.
 
DPT + K was my "last" trip.

After that, I felt psychedelics have taught me all there is that I am capable of learning from them, that taking anything after that is in vain.

And indeed, its been, what... four years now? I think I only took psychedelics two times since then, and both were completely for novelty.

I am still in the process of integrating that one trip. And I am very far from done.

That is all I have to say about this combo.
 
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