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Heroin/Opioid Thread - Serious Discussion Only

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flacky said:
Actually, you can. You don't die from the WD itself per se, but you die from complications that the WD brings on. For example, there was a well-publicized documentary called Ben: The Diary of a Heroin Addict or something like that. When the guy went in for detox, he died of a stroke.



Are you still DT-ing? Were you still taking methadone before the DT? Methadone DT takes a long time. I've heard 3-6 weeks as a general figure thrown around. Luckily, the methadone DT isn't as hard a kick as the Opana, Perc and muscle relaxer kick is going to be. Luckily, the latter three will be much faster.

I'm also surprised that your doctor prescribed you Opana and Percocet on top of a 60 mg dose of methadone. I'm pretty sure that 60 mg is a blocking dose. Seems kind of irresponsible to me.



What are dfs?
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I agree that its weird your doc prescribed that on top of 60..thats nearing a blocking dose IMO...but I didnt really feel the total block till 80+

at 40-60 it was easy to get high on top of the done..if you are shooting dope or a strong opiate
 
Velouria said:
Dihydrocodeine or DHC or Df118

120mg slow release. A few of those a day helped with the rattle along with gradually tapering down. Along with valium for sleep. However, I don't recommend it. It was just a rapid detox, but they hold you quite well.

Methadone is very dangerous, however it was the most helpful in my case.

Still Clean and very happy. Good luck All :) <3
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Are you in the UK? (Just wondering because you took DHC.
 
My best friend and number one drug buddie has been on H for a long time. he want to stop. He's tried like everything. He can't qualify for methadone clinic. He's been in rehab twice. He asked me to get info from BL for him. He's the person who showed me this place. He doesn't come on anymore because he hasn't had internet access in a long while.

Is there anything I can do, besides printing out this whole thread, to help him?
 
He's surrendered to the power of the addiction. It's beat him. He feels helpless now to fight back. At least that's how it seems in the way he talks.
 
After a bad car wreck ,where I was in the hospital for a month and had numerous surgerys,I was sent to a pain management clinic until I had my last major surgery on my crushed jaws,anyway the DR. gave me methadone 20mg's 3 times a day=60mg a day,plus OC 20mg -3 times per day=60mg OC,plus Soma etc...I thought it was weird to prescribe somone methadone and Oxycontin at the same time also,but it did work well as far as I had little pain to speak of..but I though the methadone might cancel out or block the OC's ,but I guess not at the dose I was on..Weird though,I know of people who are on like 80+ mg of methadone plus 6-10mg percocets for breakthrough pain and they can do a dilaudid 4mg IV and not feel anything ,so they do like 5-4mg Dilaudids at one injection and fell about the same as a regular person might on one 4mg diladid injection.Waste of the Dilaudid's and the methadone at 80 or 100 mg or whatever they take must block a lot of the Dilaudid and the percocet 10mg pills they take..Guess 80 or 100 mg is the blockage dose kinda for methadone and other opiates.I think they are pretty dumb for doing IV Dilaudid when they are already on so much opiates and they pay a good amount of money to buy the Dilaudids off a dealer or pill guy...stupid to keep doing it when they spend 4 or 5 times the money just to get a weak buzz from injecting Dilaudids,when otherwise they would be high off injecting one or two 4mg pills of hydromorphone aka Diluadid..
 
ugly said:
He can't qualify for methadone clinic. He's been in rehab twice.
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If he's been on dope for extended periods and had two failed detox attempts, he definitely qualifies for methadone. Might not qualify for free methadone, but he would definitely qualify for methadone.
 
ugly said:
My best friend and number one drug buddie has been on H for a long time. he want to stop. He's tried like everything. He can't qualify for methadone clinic. He's been in rehab twice. He asked me to get info from BL for him. He's the person who showed me this place. He doesn't come on anymore because he hasn't had internet access in a long while.

Is there anything I can do, besides printing out this whole thread, to help him?
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Give him lots of ice cream, kratom tea or immodium. I know where he's coming from. Went though the same crap. Couldn't afford methadone and went in and out of rehabs. Pm me, I can give you more details if you still need.
 
calmAnimal said:
so yesterday i was cleaning out my car for the buyer that was coming to pick it up and what do i see on the ground in the backseat? a fucking little blue pill. what does it turn out to be? a fucking roxy. now ive been clean of all opiates for over 20 days and while i had been struggling, i really had been liking my new lifestyle. but this was just too much. i tried calling my sponsor and got no answer.

i knew it was wrong and i was going to throw away all my clean time but i couldnt resist.

anyone else ever find drugs while they were trying to get clean? and if u were able to resist howd u do it?
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oh gosh that's a hard one! I was cleaning out my bag and I had been a few weeks clean off dope and I saw 2 empty plastic tar baggies and a tube I used to smoke tar out of and I became so desperate! I sat there for a good 30 mins to try to scrape off all the teeny tiny bits left and scrape all the resin inside the tube so that I can get a good dose. Complete waste of time :/ I didn't feel crap.
 
ugly said:
My best friend and number one drug buddie has been on H for a long time. he want to stop. He's tried like everything. He can't qualify for methadone clinic. He's been in rehab twice. He asked me to get info from BL for him. He's the person who showed me this place. He doesn't come on anymore because he hasn't had internet access in a long while.

Is there anything I can do, besides printing out this whole thread, to help him?
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What kind of rehab? For a lot of people it isn't the stopping which is the problem, it's the not starting again.
 
i got 292 days clean this shit is fucking impossible....... Im still sober but its getting HARDER and HARDER god dammit.... FUCK!!!!!!! i just want to scream i want to use so fucking bad... opiates are EVIL

my heads telling me i should just "smoke some weed" ... probably a bad idea that will lead back to opiates.... idont know

fuck me
 
cire113 said:
i got 292 days clean this shit is fucking impossible....... Im still sober but its getting HARDER and HARDER god dammit.... FUCK!!!!!!! i just want to scream i want to use so fucking bad... opiates are EVIL

my heads telling me i should just "smoke some weed" ... probably a bad idea that will lead back to opiates.... idont know

fuck me
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Boy I thought I was the only one. It seems to get harder and harder too. Like when does it start getting down hill?
 
Just took my last half of hydrocodone and not looking forward to the mental craving for more pills. I have pods, but the euphoria is just not the same. I'm trying to convince myself that the dizziness, constipation and flu-like withdrawals that occur every 6 hours make hydro not worth it, but it's hard to downplay the positive effects. In any case, I have run out and have no way of getting more so I'm going to have to deal with it. Just thankful it's not heroin or some other potent opiate and that my tolerance is relatively low.

I plan on using MDMA toward the end of November (Thanksgiving), resuming my poppy habit immediately and buying some weed soon. That's all that's on my drug horizon for the moment.

Wishing all of you luck with your addictions, withdrawals and whatever else you're going through. Opiate addiction is a major hurdle, but facing life on life's terms is the greatest obstacle of all.

<3,
Lady C.
 
even though I've been on subs and haven't had to deal with any cravings lately I have to say I had huge cravings for H on the way home from work today out of nowhere, if it wasn't for the sub that has built up in my system there is no question I would have scored. I've been trying to go as long as possible between sub doses and I now see why it's sometimes better just to stick with a regular dose because when I do I have no cravings whatsoever.

I was sitting in traffic craving H like crazy but I just took 4mgs of sub instead and within a half hour it was out of my mind completely. Thank god for sub, but damn is it expensive! that's why I've been trying to use as little as possible.
 
Serious heroin disscusion question.

"China white" or white heroin = #4
Tar = unrefined #4
Heroin Base (mostly in Europe, not found or rarely found in the US) = #3

What is mexican mud? The brown powder heroin? Is that #4, just brown?
 
I'm an hour shy of an entire week since I last took anything (which was a miniscule 0.1mg of suboxone).

About 3 hours shy of 10 days since I last did any dope.

Wrote a song about it while tripping on acid


Did not think I'd be writing any of these words 3 weeks ago

LIFE IS CRAZY!
 
^ fuckin right on brother, glad to hear you are enjoying it! Feels great to not worry about being sick huh ?
 
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