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CALIFORNIANS do NOT forget to vote on prop 19!

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NoxNoctum

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Tuesday is one day you do NOT want to get high until AFTER you have cast your vote. Make sure you're registered, and have all your ducks in a row BEFORE Tuesday.

This is THE MOST important vote since the vote on the Civil Rights Act of '64.

We must come out EN MASSE, because you can bet that crazy church groups, Mormons, and people who just aren't educated on the facts will be coming out EN MASSE against it.

I think this or a thread like this needs to be stickied on EVERY PART of this forum.

GET THE WORD OUT, CALL YOUR FRIENDS, CONVERT SOME PEOPLE TO THE CAUSE.

And it IS possible. 2 weeks ago I convinced a guy who considers himself "conservative and Republican", and is a born again Christian (which I am too btw), of the absurdity of the drug war. At the end of a 2 hour conversation, he told me if he lived in Cali he would vote for full legalization and "might even like to try it". He just wasn't educated on the FACTS. He thought it was addictive physically, he thought it was dangerous and you could OD on it, and he simply hadn't thought about the fact that legalizing it would save thousands of lives on the Mexican border and wipe out a huge portion of the drug cartels' power.
 
Californians represent a small portion of BL and an even smaller portion of CD....but get out there and vote anyways!

Legalize.
 
Hey man, if seeing this thread gets just ONE Californian to get out there and vote then I'll be happy %)
 
The legalization of cannabis is way more important than civil rights, I'd say it's the most important vote since the vote on the Declaration of Independence.
 
bluelightdotcom said:
The legalization of cannabis is way more important than civil rights, I'd say it's the most important vote since the vote on the Declaration of Independence.
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8) I'm all for legalizing weed in California, but this vote is definitly not more important than the Civil Rights act.

Californians should vote for this though.
 
^^unless the race is ridiculously close and they have to manually count all of the ballots (instead of relying on exit polls), then yes, we'll know on tuesday night.
 
Hey guys just found this and called my first person :) So even if you're not Californian, even if you're from freaking New Zealand you can make a contribution to the cause.

Just Say Now: Phonebank to End the War on Marijuana

You sign up, and they give you a script and numbers of Cali voters one by one, you record their answers, and then click next and go on to the next one. They seem to be targeting almost entirely young people (makes sense) and this could REALLY make a difference so I encourage you guys if you've got some free time to do this for a while... young people have the worst voter turnout and if this is going to pass it's CRUCIAL that they be reminded what's at stake if they haven't been paying attention to the news and such.
 
bluelightdotcom said:
The legalization of cannabis is way more important than civil rights, I'd say it's the most important vote since the vote on the Declaration of Independence.
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You must have missed some pretty important days in your history classes 8)

NORML and large social organizations like YES to Prop 19 on facebook offer phone call opportunities if you really want to help the cause. They definitely could use your help and it's very easy to start and you can stop whenever you'd like. I've made a few calls myself for shits and giggles.

As stated above, these phone lists that are provided almost entirely target 18-30 year olds, which I feel is rather silly since I know many, many adults who are voting (some of which are MMJ patients, others are simply parents who know this "war on drugs" is an uphill and loosing battle, reform is the best option).

Mehm said:
^^unless the race is ridiculously close and they have to manually count all of the ballots (instead of relying on exit polls), then yes, we'll know on tuesday night.
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I've heard a lot of predictions this will be case. This is a rather amazingly well publicized vote so I'm sure it will garner special attention.

It's pretty amazing how close we are to seeing if our efforts and california voting turnout will make the difference we're looking for.

I think it's extremely important to realize that even if this does not pass, we all know we've made remarkable headway towards legalization this decade which has been unprecedented. Us stoners should be patting each other on the back.
 
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chainer3k said:
As stated above, these phone lists that are provided almost entirely target 18-30 year olds, which I feel is rather silly since I know many, many adults who are voting (some of which are MMJ patients, others are simply parents who know this "war on drugs" is an uphill and loosing battle, reform is the best option).
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Well... I think they're doing it mostly because teenagers and 20 somethings don't vote much, and many aren't even AWARE of it being on the ballot. So they focus on them.

Adults are much more likely to have already heard about it (like say... on the news lol), and have already made their decision one way or the other. You're not gonna convince someone over the phone to vote for it, I think the idea is just to get the youngin's (of which I am one ;)) off their asses!
 
NoxNoctum said:
Adults are much more likely to have already heard about it (like say... on the news lol), and have already made their decision one way or the other. You're not gonna convince someone over the phone to vote for it, I think the idea is just to get the youngin's (of which I am one ;)) off their asses!
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Oh yes, I agree. Obviously the main target audience for prop 19 phone call encouragement is the new generation of voters, most of which have never even registered before or had any interest in voting - so I do agree they should be a large focus...but... I just think it's a big mistake to discount the importance of the other bracket, as voters of all ages are going to be required to sway a YES vote. I do not believe that once someone has made up their mind they will not change it, although there are certainly people who can be remarkably stubborn. These are not the other group I am reffering to.

There are many adults who probably have very little idea about the rational behind Prop 19, just as many as there are young voters. A simple phone call and converstation about the legitimate benefits and downfalls of the bill would do a lot of good, IMO. We can't depend too heavily on the stoners of Ca - for every one who is an active part of this cultural reform and movement, there are two who forget where their bong is =D There are a lot of parents, and soon to be or would-be parents over the age of 30 who do not want the possibility of their children being put behind bars for experimenting with cannabis, a well documented drug with far fewer credible cases of damage or addiction potential than widely available alcohol, essentially a temporary poison to the human body, or tobacco, one of the most addict substances on the plant - both of which are legal and carry relatively small punishments when used underage (with the exception being drinking & operating a vehicle of transportation).

And as I said earlier, regardless of outcome, I think it's an amazing thing to behold - the possibility of full blown legalization and the federal government being unable to do much of anything about it is simply an impressive show of democracy, stubborn resolve, and a shining example of positive cultural change that is decades - hell generations - overdue. The fact that this proposition has even made it's way onto the ballot speaks volumes, and it is should be noted as a major turning point in our country's views towards cannabis.
 
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psychomimetic said:
8) I'm all for legalizing weed in California, but this vote is definitly not more important than the Civil Rights act.

Californians should vote for this though.
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This vote is as important as civil rights. Why? Because statistically Blacks and Latinos are arrested at higher rates than whites for small amounts of marijuana. So, yea, I see it as a civil rights issue as well.

And I already mailed in my vote awhile ago with Yes on 19
 
Central California here!
Don't say were a small portion of BL,
I love BL :D

I've already got my card, I'm legal, makes me feel good I can Grow/Smoke/Harvest etc and not be doing anything illegal.

I'm voting this time around too, I don't completely agree with the way its set up, but, It's a step in the right direction.

But, I don't so much trust the honesty of this country much.
I don't know if that what translates into me thinking we will lose the vote.

I feel like we have more people voting, and lots of people are voting yes.
But I still think, even if we get all the votes they will just tell us it was a close vote and we lost 48% to 52%.
 
I'm not big into voting or politics, but this one is a fucking landmark for California and the entire nation to an extent.

Anyone who lives there and believes in an adult's right to use cannabis in their own homes or legally sanctioned public venues should feel obligated to vote. You don't need to be a smoker to support the proposition. Just a reasonable human being. This law has been a long time coming and is way overdue. Show people that potheads have a voice and the drive to make things happen.

<3 VOTE OR DIE! <3
 
Bump!!!

Big BUMP for this thread....this is defintely a landmark issue in my opinion, for the whole nation. woot, woot go cali!
 
I would if I could, but sadly I turn 18 in March. I'm getting all of my friends/parents to go in and cast their votes though!
 
Trippingballz said:
This vote is as important as civil rights. Why? Because statistically Blacks and Latinos are arrested at higher rates than whites for small amounts of marijuana. So, yea, I see it as a civil rights issue as well.

And I already mailed in my vote awhile ago with Yes on 19
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I don't think you fully comprehend how bad segregation and racial relations were in America. This is an important vote, and anti-marijuana laws do harm a disproportionate number of blacks and latinos, but anti-marijuana laws are not as racist as pro-segregation laws and they aren't nearly as detrimental. Drug prohibition is a civil rights issue, but that doesn't mean that this vote is more important then the civil rights act. Because it's not.
 
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