Crack4Lyfe
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remember when drum and bass music actually used real drummers? Things were so much better back then.
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remember when drum and bass music actually used real drummers? Things were so much better back then.
parttime crackhead
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Hence the reason why I said the pills from 10 years ago may have been better. You are trying to say that the current pills are not good. I am saying that they definitely are good. I'm willing to accept the slight possibility that they aren't as good as ones from 10 years ago but that doesn't mean they are not good.
jimboid1
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Fair enough. I'm not convinced they come even close to today's though. Any yes drum and bass was better with real drummers.
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This I think is probably as close to the truth as you're going to get. Pains me to admit it but I don't get the full on euphoria, empathy or rushes that I once did and even though I'd like to blame the pills I think the years of poly drug abuse and just simple ageing of brain, body and emotions has a major part to play...
Case in point just last night I had 1x green 140 @ 8pm follwed by 1x Orange Veedub at 10 - both were tested straight to black on marquis. I was completely and utterly munted for about 3 hours but not in the way I remember being 20 years ago. Come up was strong and body heat was up, sweaty palms etc. Music appreciation was definitely there and I was talkative and content/happy but not 'euphoric'. Now don't get me wrong...it would be nice to blame the pills but that's what? at least 10 types of 'super pill' doing the rounds now and some sent away and verified as mdma so personally I'm taking it on the chin and accepting it's me thats changed and not mdma...
Still have a quality time on them so I can live with the slightly reduced / changed effects after the best part of 20 years of caning it on and off. Such is life and tbh chasing a 20 year old buzz wearing rose tinted glasses is a recipe for continual disappointment...
parttime crackhead
Bluelighter
I definitely get euphoria from the current pills/mdma. The same as I did before the drought, when they were still using safrole.
mattnotrik
Bluelighter
The first two years I did pills is the same as you described, I no longer get as much euphoria etc etc but its just blatantly down to tolerance, you can take a 2 year break or something but it will never be like the first few times you have done it.
Im no scientist but surely if a chemical has an exactly same molecular stucture to another chemical they are exactly the same effect and tell the brain to do excactly the same things, never mind how you got to getting to that structure????
Also keeping this topic on track, ive had reports off "M and M's" coming in the next few week, reports better than the 140's but the proof will be in the pudding. Just seen a report on Red Motorolas they look like the description the guy gave to me, anyone else heard of these yet?
Im no scientist but surely if a chemical has an exactly same molecular stucture to another chemical they are exactly the same effect and tell the brain to do excactly the same things, never mind how you got to getting to that structure????
Also keeping this topic on track, ive had reports off "M and M's" coming in the next few week, reports better than the 140's but the proof will be in the pudding. Just seen a report on Red Motorolas they look like the description the guy gave to me, anyone else heard of these yet?
Those "Motorolas" on PR look identical to Warp Hyper Charged Energy Mints Cinnamon Flavour!
The stamp is the "W" of Warp, not an "M".
"Each mint is fueled with a potent energy formulation featuring ginseng, for superior physical endurance; and guarana, for an instant thrust of energy. The result is a natural, high-octane energy rush, anytime and anywhere."
The stamp is the "W" of Warp, not an "M".
"Each mint is fueled with a potent energy formulation featuring ginseng, for superior physical endurance; and guarana, for an instant thrust of energy. The result is a natural, high-octane energy rush, anytime and anywhere."
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After taking 2 of the smilies from last year, the high I got was just as good as when I first started taking pills 10 years ago.
Sadly, none of the pills/crystal I've had in the last year have come anywhere near those smilies
darrenm1636
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I second this motion,I had the pink diamonds last nite,perfectly good pills,and after a 2 year break as well,I was still able to horse 6 into me and the empathy and euphoria definately wasn't what it used to be 8 or so years ago when I first started taking them. Now I 100% just put it down to the fact I've been taking them for 9years and the effect that it has on me has changed. But it would be interesting if a chemist could clear that up whether it's possible that the way it is synthed could make any difference to the end product?
Only if there is sufficient quantity of an active precurser chemical in the final product. I suspect downregulation of serotonin receptors/"loss of magic" and/or a case of nostalgia is to blame here. MDMA is MDMA is MDMA...
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Had some of those pink m and m's a couple of months back- definatley good quality gurners. Not quite as good as the rockstars and sapphires imo but definatley stronger than the other batches of mdma pills this year. Oh and the stamp is definatley not the same as the motorolas on pill reports (its definatley a standard "m and m's" font m)
Im no scientist either, but all alcohol has a different effect on me and they have had a different route to create the alcohol.
Beer gets me slowly drunk, makes me fall about more and slur my words
Champagne gets me a higher drunk
Vodka not as high, but higher than beer
Whiskey makes me want to rip someones head off
Dunno if this point is valid, just thought id throw it into the mix
ponch
Bluelighter
See this link: http://www.cognitiveliberty.org/shulgin/adsarchive/isomers.htm
Perhaps older synths gave a racemic mixture where as newer synths yield a different ratio of S and R isomers, producing a slightly different effect?
Perhaps older synths gave a racemic mixture where as newer synths yield a different ratio of S and R isomers, producing a slightly different effect?
darrenm1636
Bluelighter
have to agree here mate,there must be something in it. Even for me the effect I get off pills in definately different than the effect that crystal has on me. I find crytal to give me a much cleaner hit with less jaw tension and more euphoria,and that's with the same chemical in each,regardless of synth method
That is very interesting.
I recall clearly that in either summer 1997/1998 that "something?" changed in pills that made them less empathic than ones from before this period. They had lost the mega-loved up feeling that they once had. I have read other people on here talk about this time. I am sure this had something to do with a different synth route, or safrole source or something
Those "Motorolas" on PR look identical to Warp Hyper Charged Energy Mints Cinnamon Flavour!
The stamp is the "W" of Warp, not an "M".
"Each mint is fueled with a potent energy formulation featuring ginseng, for superior physical endurance; and guarana, for an instant thrust of energy. The result is a natural, high-octane energy rush, anytime and anywhere."
I always think it's cool when dealers contain pills in every stuff. Had one who kept centurians in a nut box and would just pop 'em when he needed one.
nor me, although the best rush ive had for a long time was after double dropping 2 green stars in Ibiza a few weeks ago, reminded me of the old days a little bit haha