I'd like to give MDMA another shot, unsure of what to do.

[djstrip]

Hey everyone,

I rolled for the first time about a year and a half ago, and things got pretty crazy. The first pill my friends got me was a 3D red autobot, hour and a half passed and it never hit me. They were dissapointed and went out to get different pills, green naked ladies.

About a half-hour after I took the green naked lady we drove to the store and they told me I should peel out cause it would make my adrenaline kick the roll in. I did, it worked. We got back to the house and, long story short, her parents got really pissed off at us and I freaked out. My heart felt like it was going to beat out of my chest so I went in the bathroom and splashed cold water in my face and drank some as well. For a minute I thought I was going to leave in an ambulance, really scary.

Well it's a new day and I'm going to my first rave next month in SF. My gf of two years and I broke up about a month ago and I'm trying to let go and just live in the moment for once. I'd like to roll or take some Molly, but I have a couple questions:

1. Does going to the show rolling sound like a good idea?

2. Do you think my first experience was so bad due to the first unknown pill that never hit me?

3. If I was to take a pill what would be my best route for not getting too overwhelmed and not crash as hard?

4. Any specific pills I should try to get or avoid? I'm in the bay area if that helps.

Sorry for all the questions, I just like to know what I'm going into before I jump in.

Thanks everyone,

-djstrip

 

[mesial]

Just like with any other hallucinogenic drug, set and setting play a large role on how you psychologically respond. Put yourself in setting that wont evoke anxiety, be with close friend, and be comfortable. Prepare for changes in weather, have plenty of water.... just be smart and plan ahead.

Test your pills. You don't want to take a piperazine pill. I had heard the horror stories on this forum and I just talked to my first friend who got piped last weekend. He said it was the worst feeling he's ever had and he would never recommend it to anyone. This is someone who has experienced many different drugs. Get a test kit.... your body is too important, don't mess around.

Best way to take it to not crash? Just don't overdo it. One pill to start the night, and then a re-dose about 1:30 later of half a pill should be just perfect for you. Before/during your roll take piracetam (2-3g several hrs before with lecithin for choline), vitamin c, chelated magnesium or magnesium citrate (for jaw clenching) and any other antioxidant you own (b vitamins, alpha lipoic acid). After the roll, take 5-htp and piracetam, sleep well, eat well, and wait at least a month to enjoy it again.

Going to a show rolling is a great idea. Even if you have social anxiety, if you get a good pill, you will wonder why you ever got anxious around people Have fun!

 

[djstrip]

Just like with any other hallucinogenic drug, set and setting play a large role on how you psychologically respond. Put yourself in setting that wont evoke anxiety, be with close friend, and be comfortable. Prepare for changes in weather, have plenty of water.... just be smart and plan ahead.

Test your pills. You don't want to take a piperazine pill. I had heard the horror stories on this forum and I just talked to my first friend who got piped last weekend. He said it was the worst feeling he's ever had and he would never recommend it to anyone. This is someone who has experienced many different drugs. Get a test kit.... your body is too important, don't mess around.

Best way to take it to not crash? Just don't overdo it. One pill to start the night, and then a re-dose about 1:30 later of half a pill should be just perfect for you. Before/during your roll take piracetam (with lecithin for choline), vitamin c, chelated magnesium or magnesium citrate (for jaw clenching) and any other antioxidant you own (b vitamins, alpha lipoic acid). After the roll, take 5-htp and piracetam, sleep well, eat well, and wait at least a month to enjoy it again.

Going to a show rolling is a great idea. Even if you have social anxiety, if you get a good pill, you will wonder why you ever got anxious around people Have fun!

Thanks for the info!

Yea I'm thinking about it from the stand point that the musics gonna be awesome and I'm hoping the energy of the crowd will make my night awesome. We'll see, anyone here going to Ancient Machines next month?

 

[citysmog]

Thanks for the info!

Yea I'm thinking about it from the stand point that the musics gonna be awesome and I'm hoping the energy of the crowd will make my night awesome. We'll see, anyone here going to Ancient Machines next month?

If by SF you mean South Florida I would just warn you to watch out, the pills going around at raves are horrible! Buy a test kit and stay safe c:.

 

[citizen cained]

My gf of two years and I broke up about a month ago and I'm trying to let go and just live in the moment for once.
-djstrip

I hear you brother although, delete her number otherwise you will call her and tell her how much you love her and want to get back and you will end up going to her house at silly o clock in the morning with flowers and hugging her to death

yes i am speaking from experience.. (unless of course you want to get back with her then ignore the above advice)

 

[Parsethejoint]

This is just my opinion but if you haven't rolled very many times, and you had a scary experience your first time, I wouldn't recommend going to an event with a bunch of people around you.

I would recommend getting together with a few close friends, get some vicks, some glowsticks, some trance or whatever your into =P, and just roll like that. Trust me it'll be a great time.

Although if you're still planning to go to the event, don't let me worry you, seriously don't lol, cause I'm sure it'll be fine and you'll have a blast. HAPPY ROLLING! ;D

 

[AylaV]

get a few close friends in a shut off environment and don't go anywhere. It sounds like issues came from being around your gf's parents while they were pissed and whatnot. Rolling at a rave can be cool. Not sure I'd suggest it if you had a hard time without being at a rave, though =P If you do that, make sure you have someone with you at the rave at all times to keep an eye on you. That can help immensely.

 

[djstrip]

If by SF you mean South Florida I would just warn you to watch out, the pills going around at raves are horrible! Buy a test kit and stay safe c:.

No actually San Francisco.

I hear you brother although, delete her number otherwise you will call her and tell her how much you love her and want to get back and you will end up going to her house at silly o clock in the morning with flowers and hugging her to death

yes i am speaking from experience.. (unless of course you want to get back with her then ignore the above advice)

Haha, thanks Citizen, I actually do want her back, but she wants to do her own thing. Really sucks, but I'm just getting used to not worrying about her anymore. The hardest part was that it wasn't a bad break up, we left things on good terms, so it's not like I can just say f that b cause I love who she is. Mehh, not about to go down that road right now.

This is just my opinion but if you haven't rolled very many times, and you had a scary experience your first time, I wouldn't recommend going to an event with a bunch of people around you.

I would recommend getting together with a few close friends, get some vicks, some glowsticks, some trance or whatever your into =P, and just roll like that. Trust me it'll be a great time.

Although if you're still planning to go to the event, don't let me worry you, seriously don't lol, cause I'm sure it'll be fine and you'll have a blast. HAPPY ROLLING! ;D

I think that her parents played a big part in the negative turn of the first time, but I'm sure you have more experience then me on this one. I just think that being surrounded by people just letting go and feeling the bass of the music would be an awesome experience.

get a few close friends in a shut off environment and don't go anywhere. It sounds like issues came from being around your gf's parents while they were pissed and whatnot. Rolling at a rave can be cool. Not sure I'd suggest it if you had a hard time without being at a rave, though =P If you do that, make sure you have someone with you at the rave at all times to keep an eye on you. That can help immensely.

Yea my friend will be there as well, but I'm going to try and keep a low profile, if that's even possible, lol.

Thanks for all the great responses guys,

Oh forgot to ask if anyone from bluelight's going to *snip* next month?

-djstrip

 

[i roll balls]

I say just go sober, you can have just as much fun without thizz!

 

[AylaV]

There are certainly people here that will be at the party you're going to =) Just ask around if people have heard of BL at the party -- I've found this is a fairly popular forum and you'll meet a few people that know of BL =)

 

[misteee]

if your gona consume it at a show be sure to get a decent feel for your surroundings prior to consuming, and be sure to test your pills to be sure its mdma your taking, following these two little steps will do you the world of good, raves are the best becuase you have many like minded people all there for the same purpose.

 

[DrDuke]

I would say try a half pill your first time, if before it was too much for you.

 

[djstrip]

I say just go sober, you can have just as much fun without thizz!

Yea, I'm thinking about it. I would rather be in good spirits when I roll then not feeling all the way like myself.

There are certainly people here that will be at the party you're going to =) Just ask around if people have heard of BL at the party -- I've found this is a fairly popular forum and you'll meet a few people that know of BL =)

Cool, I'll be on the lookout.

if your gona consume it at a show be sure to get a decent feel for your surroundings prior to consuming, and be sure to test your pills to be sure its mdma your taking, following these two little steps will do you the world of good, raves are the best becuase you have many like minded people all there for the same purpose.

Sweet.

I would say try a half pill your first time, if before it was too much for you.

Okay, if I do that will be the plan.

-djstrip

 

[Mr. Wobble]

Rolling at a show is so perfect. Going to shows sober is fun as fuck, and what you want is to be very happy if you're going to roll.

 

[Bsiren]

get a few close friends in a shut off environment and don't go anywhere. It sounds like issues came from being around your gf's parents while they were pissed and whatnot. Rolling at a rave can be cool. Not sure I'd suggest it if you had a hard time without being at a rave, though =P If you do that, make sure you have someone with you at the rave at all times to keep an eye on you. That can help immensely.

AGREED. I went through a "dark spot" with MDMA- it lasted a while 4 "sessions" and I was ready to just give up.

MDMA is a deep drug- you may not realize that your issues came from your GF's parents being a factor, but it probably was. I was going through a major breakup at the time I had panicky MDMA experiences, and though I thought I was fine, it probably was a trigger for my bad experiences too.

Being in a comfortable environment with a few close friends could really help you get over your anxiety of rolling again. Even if it seems "mellow", rolling in a comfortable environment with a few amazing, trusted people is great.

 

[djstrip]

Rolling at a show is so perfect. Going to shows sober is fun as fuck, and what you want is to be very happy if you're going to roll.

Awesome, that's what I'm starting to conclude.

AGREED. I went through a "dark spot" with MDMA- it lasted a while 4 "sessions" and I was ready to just give up.

MDMA is a deep drug- you may not realize that your issues came from your GF's parents being a factor, but it probably was. I was going through a major breakup at the time I had panicky MDMA experiences, and though I thought I was fine, it probably was a trigger for my bad experiences too.

Being in a comfortable environment with a few close friends could really help you get over your anxiety of rolling again. Even if it seems "mellow", rolling in a comfortable environment with a few amazing, trusted people is great.

Oh I figured it was her parents that sent me into a bad trip, but it was just really scary for me. I honestly thought I was going to leave in an ambulance when my heart started beating so fast.

Yea my ex is putting me through the ringer, the last few weeks I've had up and down days. Right when I'm starting to feel good she'll say stuff to me that makes me think there's something to hold onto. Well last night she went to a bar with all my old friends, the ones that ditched me after we broke up, and got hammered. She's been telling me that she wanted to break up cause she wanted to just worry about herself for once. I didn't want to break up, but I'm not going to make her stay if that's what she needs to do. Well last night when she was at the bar I guess my old friends were getting drinks for her, she got smashed and ended up kissing one of the guys that I considered a good friend. How do I know? The motherfucker had another friend take a picture and then he posted it to Facebook. The shit blew my mind. Other then the fact that she's 19 and he's 26 and he used to be addicted to meth, and that he was one of my best friends, I really never thought she would stoop that low.

Really hit me hard, but I think it was good because it gave me the closure I needed to say fuck that bitch. I'm a good man that respects women and treated her with all the respect in the world and she did the same for me for most of our relationship. We talked about it and she tried throwing every excuse in the book at me why she did it, but for me that was it.

She'll realize what she lost and by that time I'll be with someone who returns the love that I give. What I'm trying to say is that I'm going to hold off on popping till the Bassnectar show I just bought a ticket to for the show in December! Haha, damn I'm so excited. I'm still going to ancient machines in sf, but I'll be sober for that one.

/emo rant, lol,

Happy Halloween guys,

-djstrip

 

[windowpaine]

I hear you brother although, delete her number otherwise you will call her and tell her how much you love her and want to get back and you will end up going to her house at silly o clock in the morning with flowers and hugging her to death

yes i am speaking from experience.. (unless of course you want to get back with her then ignore the above advice)

Seriously, that just happened to me last month. I was at this rave and went up on the mezzanine because the bass and lights got a little too intense for a minute. While I was up there I took a picture with my camera and sent her an mms with some sappy bullshit on it. Seemed like a good idea at the time though.

 

[windowpaine]

And, for the record, there may not be a better show to roll at than bassnectar.

 

[djstrip]

Seriously, that just happened to me last month. I was at this rave and went up on the mezzanine because the bass and lights got a little too intense for a minute. While I was up there I took a picture with my camera and sent her an mms with some sappy bullshit on it. Seemed like a good idea at the time though.

Damn Window, how did that turn out?

And, for the record, there may not be a better show to roll at than bassnectar.

Oh man, I'm super excited, I wish I knew more people who were down with this scene cause most people I ask are like "oh that's cool, let me know how it is." I need a concert/rave buddy for these type of things.

Update with ex status, I deleted her and all the friends that ditched me. She messages me this morning telling me i took it too far by deleting her and that she still loves me and wants to be my friend, lol. She made it a point to tell me that the kiss meant nothing and that her and my old best friend weren't going out. I didn't care one way or another by that point, but tonight one of the girls that I'm still cool with from the group texted me telling me that they're together.

I'm over it now, I just don't understand how she could lie like that. It's as ifshe really believes it. Total mindfuck, but I'm done with it, just figured I'd entertain you guys with some ridiculousness.

-djstrip

 

[windowpaine]

It wasn't too bad. I just told her I was rolling and she understood.