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Opioids Fentanyl Overdoses - So common.. how to prevent?

jaystyle

jaystyle

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I hear more about fentanyl overdoses than any other opiate practically because it is dosed in micrograms so its really easy to overdo it. It seems like it can be really dangerous stuff.

I am still interested in trying it though... I just want to do it safe. I do want to extract some of it so I dont need to have a patch on me for 72 hours... anyone have any tips of how to safely ABUSE fentanyl? Any pointers of how to get high on fentanyl in a safe way would be helpful to me since I plan to score soon (IE. wait 30 minutes after a dose? 1 hr? etc).

thanks guys!
 
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mymindisgoo said:
cut open gel pack, put some gel onto tinfoil, smoke and wait
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Hope you don' mind me asking OP but i just have ONE question.
If you smoke fent, does the high last longer than if you were to smoke other opiates? I ask cause i hear the high from smoking opiates doesn't last too long? (well, mostly concerning oxy and heroin)
 
mymindisgoo said:
cut open gel pack, put some gel onto tinfoil, smoke and wait
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Horrid advice, many have dies from smoking tiny drops of gel. Fentanyl is also very respiratory depressant which makes it especially dangerous. I ODed from normal seeming buccal fentanyl doses twice in the span of a week and I had a massive tolerance already. I probably stopped breathing or came close many times before but never knew because I was alone and just got lucky.

I used to shoot fentanyl from patches so I had a very good idea how many mcgs I used and remember always nodding off and could have just gotten lucky then. I know a doctor here who used to use vials of fent and knew exactly how much he was using and thought he was in control and could dose it safely but in reality he was never in control and stopped breathing all the time having to administer counter measures to himself as he luckily realized he was a patient in need of medical attention. Most of us don't have that small safety net and even so he got very lucky since you can't shock yourself awake when you are passed out.

If you ever hear someone slow their breathing to the point it sounds like horrid gasps of death it should change your perspective. The best and only advice I can give is never to use fentanyl, I mean there are so many better opioids out there, fentany is just boring and for desperate people looking to nod off into oblivion and that is exactly what it will do to you, with oblivion slowly becoming death the more you toy with it, or even on the first time. :|
 
Smoking fentanyl is the best way to do it imo (most pleasurable, NOT SAFEST WHATSOEVER). This coming from someone who has OD'd on it. Hearing yourself gasping for air because your body has stopped breathing for you normall is frightening to say the least. The safest way is just to use as recommended but if you want to abuse it then do this:

Cut the patch into strips and place it on your gums and leave it there until you start to feel it. I would remove as soon as you feel the effects kicking in, you don't want to overdo it. You can always put it back on if you want stronger effects but PLEASE BE CAREFUL. It is so easy to OD on it. (If you want my story just search my posts; it was a trip report). Also, try not to swallow when it is sitting on your gums, and place it on your upper gums. Good luck!
 
OC80's said:
Smoking fentanyl is the best way to do it imo (most pleasurable, NOT SAFEST WHATSOEVER). This coming from someone who has OD'd on it. Hearing yourself gasping for air because your body has stopped breathing for you normall is frightening to say the least. The safest way is just to use as recommended but if you want to abuse it then do this:

Cut the patch into strips and place it on your gums and leave it there until you start to feel it. I would remove as soon as you feel the effects kicking in, you don't want to overdo it. You can always put it back on if you want stronger effects but PLEASE BE CAREFUL. It is so easy to OD on it. (If you want my story just search my posts; it was a trip report). Also, try not to swallow when it is sitting on your gums, and place it on your upper gums. Good luck!
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I would argue buccal is the MOST dangerous. With buccal when you nod off he patch is still there feeding you fentanyl rapidly while you are out. You absolutely cannot count on being able to remove the patch at the right time. You will always want more and when it gets to the dagner zone you are way too high to realize you need to take it out and you pass out with it in. It can also shift in your mouth and easily partially or even fully block your airway making your depressed breathing even more difficult or stop. This is how I nearly died. At least with smoking and IV after you take a hit it is done with. The safest way to use fent is transdermally and even then if you have low tolerance (and you should never use fent unless you have some decent tolerance, it even says so on the package) you can still die when mixing other substances.
 
When you guys were OD'ing or close to it, do you ever notice sometimes you can't swallow (drink) anything? Or if you nodding out rank you probably wouldn't be drinking anything, but when I do upwards to 200-250mg of oxy I get that alot and sometimes panic, kind of a trippy feeling...
 
Dinkus123 said:
When you guys were OD'ing or close to it, do you ever notice sometimes you can't swallow (drink) anything? Or if you nodding out rank you probably wouldn't be drinking anything, but when I do upwards to 200-250mg of oxy I get that alot and sometimes panic, kind of a trippy feeling...
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I got that a lot when I used to do heroin. I think fentanyl made me pass out before I really got there but now that you mention it I think I do recall that sensation semi recently with fent where oxymorphone and hydromorphone never caused it.
 
mymindisgoo said:
cut open gel pack, put some gel onto tinfoil, smoke and wait
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this is what you should NOT do, the easiest way to not overdose on fentanyl is simply not to use it. stick to tylenol threes and hydrocodones, you'll thank yourself in a few years.

edit: as far as the dry mouth and inability to swallow foods goes, yes this is all part of the depression of the central nervous system that impairs your ability to swallow, equally as important is noting that not only can you not swallow food or drink (water becomes extremely dangerous) you cannot predict how your body will behave when you purge this leads to choking on vomit etc. etc.
 
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i got nothing out of smoking fent from a 100mcg patch.... i smoke about 6 or 7 hits in 15 20 min and felt hardly anything .... the hits were each bigger then bbs some even closer to a small pee...i didnt feel anything from it infect i was stilll sick... i have a HUGE tolerance but hearing all the death and what not i thought i was going to get a good high and didnt ....im pretty sure i was doing it right too
 
DO NOT smoke fent. That is definitely not the safest, or the most effective way of taking fentanyl.

If you are seriously interested in trying this drug but being safe, all you gotta do is take a patch, put it on, and then take it off when you start to feel real nice, and then put it back on again if its starts wearing off and you want to feel it more. This is a very safe way of dosing it in incriments without having to worry about measuring out certain amuonts to smoke or inject or whatever. Its very simple and your pretty much just taking it as prescribed.
 
Having had a few OD's myself I can tell you that if you really OD (as oppossed to alitle too high)
a) you don't even know until someone wakes you up (if you're lucky) as you are unconcious and just gone

b)being aroused with naltrexone and the like is extremely unpleasant if you are physically addicted.

c) more people I kow OD on fentanyl than any other opioid

d) kid in a rear apartment just bought it abot a week ago wit apatch and it really turns the heat on.
e) I avoid it like the plaque (which is something if you knew me)
 
Thanks... I have a high opiate tolerance so I am afraid the only way I will feel it is if I do something other than transdermal. Ia m thinking of the heat pad over it method though... at least is will speed up absorbtion and that might be all I need.

Thanks!
 
how high is your tolerance? My experience with patches came when I was taking about 100mg oxycodone/day, which isn't that high compared to a lot of the shit I see on here, but when I was at that level a 75mcg patch had me feeling right for a little less than 3 days. I threw it on, no heat patch, nothing like that, and was good. Day 2 was the "strongest" I guess. The best way to not OD is to just wear it and not fuck with it.
 
if it is a transdermal patch (gooey-gel inside) then you can cut the patch open carefully and take about a dime size dab and rub it in your gums. If this dose doesn't do it for you, you can dose dab by dab to prevent from overdoing it and having no way to go back. Fent. is nothing to fuck with and be very careful and dont over do it cause it can be fatal. Also if they are matrix style patches I've found that you can cut them into pieces (i usually cut them into sixths or so) and chew on a piece for a while. have fun and be careful
 
blackjesus said:
this is what you should NOT do, the easiest way to not overdose on fentanyl is simply not to use it. stick to tylenol threes and hydrocodones, you'll thank yourself in a few years.

edit: as far as the dry mouth and inability to swallow foods goes, yes this is all part of the depression of the central nervous system that impairs your ability to swallow, equally as important is noting that not only can you not swallow food or drink (water becomes extremely dangerous) you cannot predict how your body will behave when you purge this leads to choking on vomit etc. etc.
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Im assuming that if the OP is considering using fent.. he is way past the "T3s and hydrocodone stage"

I know for me for example... I can take 20 hydro 10s and not feel shit accept my liver failing lol.
 
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There is no safe way to "abuse" fentanyl. Anyone else who tells you different is lieing lol. If your very dependent on opiates, then it is a little bit safer. You need to know how much of the patch you need to get high.

I would bang it or forget about it. Maybe eat some to.

Fentanyl overdoses are also very common because it is the strongest opiate/opiod. If I remember right it's around 72x stronger then morphine, morphine already being a strong opiate that should tell you somthing.

Again it's really not meant for people without a huge tolerance, probably another reason for so many people ODing.
 
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