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Regarding all this £40/gram 'MDMA crystal'. Does no one else think that £40/gram is just far too cheap right now for it to be real?


- I mean...........let's assume that the green stars and the orange VWs contained 120 mg of MDMA (I personally don't think they did, but let's assume I'm wrong). Those pills each cost £10, which works out as about £80/gram of MDMA they contain.

So surely this £40/gram 'MDMA' can't be real, can it?
 
MDMAhead said:
On another note:



Regarding all this £40/gram 'MDMA crystal'. Does no one else think that £40/gram is just far too cheap right now for it to be real?


- I mean...........let's assume that the green stars and the orange VWs contained 120 mg of MDMA (I personally don't think they did, but let's assume I'm wrong). Those pills each cost £10, which works out as about £80/gram of MDMA they contain.

So surely this £40/gram 'MDMA' can't be real, can it?
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pffft cant be real. i had some just last week for £40 a gram and it was the best crystal i have ever had (similar looking to the pictures posted)
 
Treacle said:
Mephedrone which also COSTS MONEY. OK, it's perhaps a bit cheaper, but really?
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One of the unfortunate consequences of prohibition (especially in the UK, where we don't have testing-labs) is the ruthless profiteering by criminal gangs. All most of them care about is profit, so rest assured that if they can cut costs (by selling you a cheaper, inferior product), they will do.
 
aye treacle, adding meph to top up definately seems unlikely/more hassle than its worth.

lowering a 100mg pill by 30mg for a batch intended for export on the otherhand does seem plausable.
Exporting a batch of say 10k pills would save the producer 300g MDMA.

On one hand, it does happen in the hash market. Morrocan hash producers lower the quality of hash intended for export, so why not dutch pill producers?

On the other hand, everyone I know who has taken those white camels have reported experiences consistent with 100mg MDMA per pill.

Only a lab test holds the answer! :)
 
Yeah mate seriously,that's a fairly ridiculous argument,considering there's quite a few people on this board who are paying around 40 a g and giving some really good reports on it.pills were only going for a tenner because they hadn't been around for so long and they're easier to shift. And besides,the prices of pills are dropping everywhere,even in Belfast they're down to 6 or 7 quid and we seem to be 6 months or s behind you guys in England and Ireland
 
Acid4Blood said:
Only a lab test holds the answer! :)
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I agree!!! I was only using mephedrone as an example to illustrate the fact that we just don't know what's in a batch of pills until they get lab-tested.

Of course, we all have the option of sending pills to be lab-tested by DDL in California. But unfortunately, they aren't allowed to tell you the actual amount of any substance in a pill; only the ratios :(

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggg - it makes me so angry that we don't have testing-labs in the UK!!!!
 
darrenm1636 said:
Yeah mate seriously,that's a fairly ridiculous argument,considering there's quite a few people on this board who are paying around 40 a g and giving some really good reports on it.pills were only going for a tenner because they hadn't been around for so long and they're easier to shift. And besides,the prices of pills are dropping everywhere,even in Belfast they're down to 6 or 7 quid and we seem to be 6 months or s behind you guys in England and Ireland
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Errrr...........as far as I'm aware, the pink diamonds (in the UK) are currently going for £10/pill, and they are estimated to contain 80 mg of MDMA.
 
Regarding all this £40/gram 'MDMA crystal'. Does no one else think that £40/gram is just far too cheap right now for it to be real?
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Pretty simple answer, the more of the product you buy the cheaper it is. Pills can bought in singles, a gram of MDMA is equal to 10 pills, you would expect to pay much less than 10 each buying 10 at a time.

I buy 2 x 4 pints of milk and save a whopping 25 pence per 4 pints, all the money I save buying milk in bulk I use to buy cheap crystals ;)
 
sundayraver said:
Pretty simple answer, the more of the product you buy the cheaper it is. Pills can bought in singles, a gram of MDMA is equal to 10 pills, you would expect to pay much less than 10 each buying 10 at a time.
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I can get 10 pink diamonds (i.e. 800 mg of MDMA) for £90. Or 1 gram of 'MDMA crystal' for £40.

You do the math.
 
MDMAhead you really are a boring cunt. You made yourself look a twat by saying everyone on here was wrong and that the green stars were not MDMA, sent a pill away for testing and got proved wrong, now your trying to say that the crystal going about is fake when its the best mandy around in years. i personally have tried the orange volkswagens and the crystal and felt alot more euphoria and empathy from the crystal.
 
What's the verdict with blue standbys? been offered them for 7 quid a pop
 
At the end of the day, who really gives a fuck?, as long as you have a good nite & don't feel ripped off! :)
 
I just wrote this post but was deleted so not as good as the original incantation..

Anyhow, as I wrote a few posts ago the current price of pills (or diddlers / SWIMMERS etc.) seems disproportionate to the Mandy prices.... (as recent posts have indicated...)

Having met someone who was fairly involved in shifting batches of the new "decent / super" pills (since the Blue Face books, which appeared to be one of the first love waves of this new phenomenon) it appears that the inflated prices can, in fact, be related to CONSUMER PREFERENCE (slash marketing). I reckon that people (per se) prefer small discrete little tablets (with added caffeine to avert being knocked on your arse) that they can eat at their leisure (vs. Mandy which can be time consuming to sort out and not so practical in certain situations i.e. big commercial clubs et al.). People I have met seem to have given the vibe that little ones sold like hot cakes whereas Mandy (even though good) was not as easy to get rid of.

Additionally you could also be looking at bigger profit margins per piece… (it’s all about the profit in these capitalist orientated years, no longer the prophet).

Therefore these factors could certainly increase the price of our little friends (when comparing to the pure ting)…

Additionally (now I am just pissing into the wind here) I reckon the MDMA crystal is perhaps 70/80/90% pure… SO… when looking at test results on ecstasy data et al. you could read the mg content as +/- 20% ish depending on which way you are looking at it (I.e. a 100mg pill could be construed as perhaps 120mg or so) - again this is all speculation but it makes almost an milligram of sense to me.

Anyhow, those are my 2 pence… I am sure there are a million conspiracy theories- perhaps all this crystal MDMA is in fact Mephedrone (or horse poo) that has been recarved to look like turkish delight.

Finally - Crack4lyfe - please accept my apologies for being a cunt in previous post (and no, I am not on one of those little super beans).

Peace & fucking.

Edit: Also, another potential reason could be the added price (in time/labour & riskiness) of pressing the fuckers (as opposed to just selling those pure crystals of turkish delightish loveliness) - I have clearly been haunted by this price comparison and have now verbalised potential reasons...
 
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Werent the orange VW's a low does of 2ct7? Amazing drug, at 30mg + more euphoric than mdma imo.
 
neilios said:
SO… when looking at test results on ecstasy data et al. you could read the mg content as +/- 20% ish depending on which way you are looking at it (I.e. a 100mg pill could be construed as perhaps 120mg or so) - again this is all speculation but it makes almost an milligram of sense to me.
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That's absolute rubbish. When a lab says that a pill contains 100 mg of MDMA, they are not including impurities in that figure; they are referring to the molecule 'MDMA'. That isn't to say that the pill doesn't also contain impurities; it may contain impurities in addition to the 100 mg of pure MDMA.

The only logical explanation as to why the current 'MDMA crystal' is so much cheaper than the current MDMA pills is that the MDMA crystal is very impure (e.g. a gram of MDMA crystal only actually contains 400 mg of MDMA).
 
MDMAhead said:
Errrr...........as far as I'm aware, the pink diamonds (in the UK) are currently going for £10/pill, and they are estimated to contain 80 mg of MDMA.
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well the guy that was getting them for me paid 7 quid for the pink diamonds. I can also recall quoted on this thread pink diamonds sold for 6 quid in Belfast and 5 quid in manchester,plus derbylad saying the light blue diamonds (strongest of all 3 colours of diamonds allegedly) being sold round his neck of the woods for a "sky diver"
 
MDMAhead said:
That's absolute rubbish. When a lab says that a pill contains 100 mg of MDMA, they are not including impurities in that figure; they are referring to the molecule 'MDMA'. That isn't to say that the pill doesn't also contain impurities; it may contain impurities in addition to the 100 mg of pure MDMA.

The only logical explanation as to why the current 'MDMA crystal' is so much cheaper than the current MDMA pills is that the MDMA crystal is very impure (e.g. a gram of MDMA crystal only actually contains 400 mg of MDMA).
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Lol...."the only logical solution"

who the fuck is this guy?? U should start up a new drugs forum,just for u. Call it blueshite,u can argue till your blue in the face. Leave the rest of us alone,your doing everyones head in....again.I'm off to bed,can't be arsed listening to this nonsense anymore
 
MDMAhead said:
That's absolute rubbish. When a lab says that a pill contains 100 mg of MDMA, they are not including impurities in that figure; they are referring to the molecule 'MDMA'. That isn't to say that the pill doesn't also contain impurities; it may contain impurities in addition to the 100 mg of pure MDMA.

The only logical explanation as to why the current 'MDMA crystal' is so much cheaper than the current MDMA pills is that the MDMA crystal is very impure (e.g. a gram of MDMA crystal only actually contains 400 mg of MDMA).
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After eating lots of new different batches of mdma since feb/march of this year, and eating lots before the drought for a good while i can confirm the stuff going round now is just as good as the stuff before the drrought. So 1gram of the stuff is definitely not only 40% pure. You make no sense.
 
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